A Guide for changing Player Potentials within Franchise.

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  • jnavarro
    Rookie
    • Mar 2012
    • 251

    #1

    A Guide for changing Player Potentials within Franchise.

    I've made these discoveries and posted them in other threads, so here is a summary. Many will see this as cheating. I'll make no judgement on that. Use this at your own discretion.

    Occasionally you get an email that says a player's "Stock is Rising" or he is "Overachieving". This means his potential went up. If a player is near a potential benchmark, he can actually go up in potential. Basically if he is B+ he might become an A. You can see this by sorting by potential in Roster Management to see how your guys stack up. They can also lose potential by getting a "Starting to Struggle" email.

    Here is how to manipulate that. Those emails start in mid May, perhaps the second week or so. They tend to happen to players on hot or cold streaks (the flame icons next to the player). Here is the big kicker...they happen only on Wednesdays and they can happen on any Wednesday. This means you can sim every Wednesday on your franchise season until you get the email you want about the player you want. Think your guy is overrated? Knock him down this way. Underrated? Drive him up.

    Some rules here: You only seem to be able to get one email about any player a year, so no taking your "D" prospects into "A" status. You can get a low B guy to low A in a few years though. This also works on Wednesdays during the playoffs, but I'm not sure if your team has to be in the playoffs or not.

    Here is another loophole to help. When a player gets on a streak, demote him to your Class A team. They don't actually play games at that level, so that hot streak he is on will never end. He stays hot all season, increasing the odds that he gets a potential email. This works really well in September when minor league games are over and these guys are some of your only players who stay on a hot or cold streak.

    As you can see, you can really reshape your roster in a just a couple of seasons if you are patient with this. Again, I'll leave it to you to decide whether this is ok to do. It will allow some course corrects on OSFM potentials that you might not have agreed with.
  • BatsareBugs
    LVP
    • Feb 2003
    • 12553

    #2
    Re: A Guide for changing Player Potentials within Franchise.

    I have a few things I want to add.

    I'm doing a test with all 30 teams just to see how many of these emails come up and so far in the first year from May9 (second Wednesday of May in 2012) through June 6 (5 weeks), 27 players have either gone up or down.

    This is the current breakdown:

    May 9 - 1 (1 Down)
    May 16 - 10 (5 Up, 5 Down)
    May 23 - 3 (3 Up)
    May 30 - 7 (2 Up, 5 Down)
    June 6 - 6 (5 Up, 1 Down)

    It does depend on current hot or cold streaks, but it's completely random with who gets these "potential re-evaluations". Also, I've noticed that the potential point gain is also random, ranging from 1 to maybe around 3 or 4 points (as I've seen some players with similar B+ levels end up at different A levels, some end up just at A-, while others end up a bit higher and so on.

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    • Neolithic
      Pro
      • Apr 2003
      • 699

      #3
      Re: A Guide for changing Player Potentials within Franchise.

      I have a quick question:

      How does one go about determining the "low" and "high" level of A, B, C, etc. I've been playing this game a loooooong time, and I'm probably just ignorant.

      Or it's because I also play OOTP like it's a religion (which it is, all hail OOTP!!!) and just can't turn OOTP brain off, and turn on MLB 12 brain. :P
      You do what you want in your association, don't let others ruin the fun. Just because other people say it's cheap doesn't mean you have to let it affect your association, just have fun - Evan_OS

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      • volsman
        Rookie
        • Nov 2004
        • 450

        #4
        Re: A Guide for changing Player Potentials within Franchise.

        Originally posted by Neolithic
        I have a quick question:

        How does one go about determining the "low" and "high" level of A, B, C, etc. I've been playing this game a loooooong time, and I'm probably just ignorant.

        Or it's because I also play OOTP like it's a religion (which it is, all hail OOTP!!!) and just can't turn OOTP brain off, and turn on MLB 12 brain. :P
        If you sort by potential the highest B's will be right under the A's
        "When life gives you lemons find some tequila and do some shots"

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        • Neolithic
          Pro
          • Apr 2003
          • 699

          #5
          Re: A Guide for changing Player Potentials within Franchise.

          Cool, much thanks! I wasn't sure if it was sorting those based on some underlying number, or not. Now I know.
          You do what you want in your association, don't let others ruin the fun. Just because other people say it's cheap doesn't mean you have to let it affect your association, just have fun - Evan_OS

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          • BatsareBugs
            LVP
            • Feb 2003
            • 12553

            #6
            Re: A Guide for changing Player Potentials within Franchise.

            Originally posted by Neolithic
            Cool, much thanks! I wasn't sure if it was sorting those based on some underlying number, or not. Now I know.
            Yes, and after it's done sorting by potential, it sorts out similar potential-level players by overall rating.

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            • bobloblah1980
              Rookie
              • Oct 2010
              • 459

              #7
              Re: A Guide for changing Player Potentials within Franchise.

              add this to your data as well because it has happened to me twice now. Both times and I had "B" rated player go on the 60 day DL while being on a hot sterak and both times I got "the Email" and then they became "A"
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              • slyfox
                Rookie
                • Sep 2003
                • 232

                #8
                Re: A Guide for changing Player Potentials within Franchise.

                Originally posted by BatsareBugs
                I have a few things I want to add.

                I'm doing a test with all 30 teams just to see how many of these emails come up and so far in the first year from May9 (second Wednesday of May in 2012) through June 6 (5 weeks), 27 players have either gone up or down.

                This is the current breakdown:

                May 9 - 1 (1 Down)
                May 16 - 10 (5 Up, 5 Down)
                May 23 - 3 (3 Up)
                May 30 - 7 (2 Up, 5 Down)
                June 6 - 6 (5 Up, 1 Down)

                It does depend on current hot or cold streaks, but it's completely random with who gets these "potential re-evaluations". Also, I've noticed that the potential point gain is also random, ranging from 1 to maybe around 3 or 4 points (as I've seen some players with similar B+ levels end up at different A levels, some end up just at A-, while others end up a bit higher and so on.
                Where do you find the 'potential point gains'? I understand in the manage roster screen when players attributes progress, but I don't remember seeing how many numbers a player moves up in potential anywhere.

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                • Betterai
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 489

                  #9
                  Re: A Guide for changing Player Potentials within Franchise.

                  Where are you guys seeing the B-, B+, A- increments? When I sort the potential column, all I see is the A, B, C, D, F letter grades....never any - or +

                  Also to clarify, this email isn't the typical ones you get under the minor league update is it? The ones when they say either your player is on a hot streak or has been struggling.....does the email specifically have to say your player is "overachieving" or "stock is rising" before you see the increase?
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                  • Mark James
                    Rookie
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 52

                    #10
                    Re: A Guide for changing Player Potentials within Franchise.

                    Originally posted by Betterai
                    Where are you guys seeing the B-, B+, A- increments? When I sort the potential column, all I see is the A, B, C, D, F letter grades....never any - or +

                    Also to clarify, this email isn't the typical ones you get under the minor league update is it? The ones when they say either your player is on a hot streak or has been struggling.....does the email specifically have to say your player is "overachieving" or "stock is rising" before you see the increase?
                    If you go to your roster and sort by potetial, the B+'s will be directly under the A-'s and so on. B-'s will be right above th C+'s.

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                    • MattGarza13
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 438

                      #11
                      Re: A Guide for changing Player Potentials within Franchise.

                      Originally posted by bobloblah1980
                      add this to your data as well because it has happened to me twice now. Both times and I had "B" rated player go on the 60 day DL while being on a hot sterak and both times I got "the Email" and then they became "A"
                      I had a guy on the 60 day DL with a torn ACL go from a C to a B, he was hitting .370 so thats probably why. I also had Willingham get lowered so players on the Major League roster get it too which I wasn't sure if they did or not. Might be already known.

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                      • BatsareBugs
                        LVP
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 12553

                        #12
                        Re: A Guide for changing Player Potentials within Franchise.

                        Originally posted by Betterai
                        Where are you guys seeing the B-, B+, A- increments? When I sort the potential column, all I see is the A, B, C, D, F letter grades....never any - or +

                        Also to clarify, this email isn't the typical ones you get under the minor league update is it? The ones when they say either your player is on a hot streak or has been struggling.....does the email specifically have to say your player is "overachieving" or "stock is rising" before you see the increase?
                        There aren't any -/+, but generally when you sort out by potential on the roster screen, players on the lower end of the A-potential spectrum are A- (if you go on OSFM, Dylan Bundy and Austin Hedges are two examples of these A-). Players on the high end of a B-potential are B+ (Matt Davidson, Mike Olt, Bobby Bundy, etc.). Likewise, low end of the B-potential will be B- (Jaff Decker) and so on.

                        The email title will specifically be "Overachieving" or "Stock is Rising" for players whose potentials have increased or "Underachieving" or "Starting to Struggle" for those whose potentials have decreased. Monthly prospects updates give you a clue of whose hot or not, but when it comes to the potential changes, it only happens for those who are hot or cold as of that Wednesday.

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                        • Betterai
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 489

                          #13
                          Re: A Guide for changing Player Potentials within Franchise.

                          Originally posted by BatsareBugs
                          There aren't any -/+, but generally when you sort out by potential on the roster screen, players on the lower end of the A-potential spectrum are A- (if you go on OSFM, Dylan Bundy and Austin Hedges are two examples of these A-). Players on the high end of a B-potential are B+ (Matt Davidson, Mike Olt, Bobby Bundy, etc.). Likewise, low end of the B-potential will be B- (Jaff Decker) and so on.

                          The email title will specifically be "Overachieving" or "Stock is Rising" for players whose potentials have increased or "Underachieving" or "Starting to Struggle" for those whose potentials have decreased. Monthly prospects updates give you a clue of whose hot or not, but when it comes to the potential changes, it only happens for those who are hot or cold as of that Wednesday.
                          Wow as long as I've been playing this game, I never knew the potential grades had high and low ends.....amazes me how many nuances this game has....

                          That clears everything up for me, thanks man
                          Last edited by Betterai; 06-03-2012, 04:42 PM.
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                          • supersonic1414
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 27

                            #14
                            Re: A Guide for changing Player Potentials within Franchise.

                            How do you read the emails? That indicator will be flashing red, I hit the select button to toggle to it, hit X.....and I just pull up whatever my above submenu my onscreen cursor is on...

                            Yet if I hit x after toggling to the help button right next to the email, the help screen pulls up.....drives me nuts that I can't figure this out

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                            • Knight165
                              *ll St*r
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 24964

                              #15
                              Re: A Guide for changing Player Potentials within Franchise.

                              Originally posted by supersonic1414
                              How do you read the emails? That indicator will be flashing red, I hit the select button to toggle to it, hit X.....and I just pull up whatever my above submenu my onscreen cursor is on...

                              Yet if I hit x after toggling to the help button right next to the email, the help screen pulls up.....drives me nuts that I can't figure this out
                              If I'm understanding you...move it over with the d-pad to the e-mail icon...then hit X

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                              Knight165
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