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  • railsldr
    Rookie
    • May 2011
    • 58

    #1

    simming half innings is definitely off

    Just thought I would throw this out there as an observation. I decided to play a game and simmed the first 3 half innings that I was pitching (just wanted to hit). By the 4th my pitcher had given up 6 runs on 11 hits yet had only thrown 16 pitches. Even so 11 hits total and 9 outs, lets say a double play to end each inning he still had to throw more than 16 pitches.
  • slyfox
    Rookie
    • Sep 2003
    • 232

    #2
    Re: simming half innings is definitely off

    Originally posted by railsldr
    Just thought I would throw this out there as an observation. I decided to play a game and simmed the first 3 half innings that I was pitching (just wanted to hit). By the 4th my pitcher had given up 6 runs on 11 hits yet had only thrown 16 pitches. Even so 11 hits total and 9 outs, lets say a double play to end each inning he still had to throw more than 16 pitches.
    The odd pitch count when your team is siming pitching has been an issue for as long as I can remember in this series. It'd be nice it they'd fix it, but I don't have a problem just ignoring it.

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    • birthday_massacre
      Pro
      • Jan 2013
      • 614

      #3
      Re: simming half innings is definitely off

      I agree it seems like 75% of the time I sim by half innings my pitcher gives up a couple of runs.

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      • Gosens6
        All Star
        • Oct 2007
        • 6101

        #4
        Re: simming half innings is definitely off

        Simming during games is messed up for A LOT of sports games. Madden and NCAA being the main culprits. Guess you can add The Show to that list too.

        This is why I refuse to use this feature.

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        • jr86
          MVP
          • Jan 2009
          • 1728

          #5
          Re: simming half innings is definitely off

          My advice to you is to play more games. It will even out.
          I am 70 games into my season having simmed the pitching in every game and have an ERA under 4.00...sometimes you give up 9, sometimes 0, 1 or 2..it's working out fine for me.

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          • nflman2033
            Rookie
            • Feb 2003
            • 360

            #6
            Re: simming half innings is definitely off

            Did you press circle to complete, or did you watch it happen. I rarely hit circle to complete and I don't see short pitch counts.

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            • fakingmysuicide
              Rookie
              • Apr 2012
              • 40

              #7
              Re: simming half innings is definitely off

              For me it's ridiculously high pitch counts and almost no stamina depletion. They will throw 110-120 pitches in six innings and still have half their stamina... I've had to stop using this feature.
              I literally love Jose Altuve.

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              • birthday_massacre
                Pro
                • Jan 2013
                • 614

                #8
                Re: simming half innings is definitely off

                the worst part is you can be up 4-0 and you dont feel like playing 3 innings so you sim til the 8th then when its done you are losing 6-4. Simming in game does not work well at all. I was winning one game 7-1 in the 4th so i simmed to the six and the CPU got 4 then 3 innings, i just reset the game in disgust

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                • shadow2201
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 446

                  #9
                  Re: simming half innings is definitely off

                  Originally posted by birthday_massacre
                  the worst part is you can be up 4-0 and you dont feel like playing 3 innings so you sim til the 8th then when its done you are losing 6-4. Simming in game does not work well at all. I was winning one game 7-1 in the 4th so i simmed to the six and the CPU got 4 then 3 innings, i just reset the game in disgust
                  So teams aren't allowed to score on you if you're up 7-1? I sim a lot of games in game and sometimes you get beat up, sometimes you don't! Just because a team scores on you during a sim doesn't mean it's broken, it just means that the game is played to score runs. Teams will score runs, sometimes they'll score 3 then 4 then 5 in 3 innings, it happens.

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                  • birthday_massacre
                    Pro
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 614

                    #10
                    Re: simming half innings is definitely off

                    Originally posted by shadow2201
                    So teams aren't allowed to score on you if you're up 7-1? I sim a lot of games in game and sometimes you get beat up, sometimes you don't! Just because a team scores on you during a sim doesn't mean it's broken, it just means that the game is played to score runs. Teams will score runs, sometimes they'll score 3 then 4 then 5 in 3 innings, it happens.
                    Not that many runs to go ahead for only simming two innings, esp when my pitcher to that point had only given up 2 or 3 hits with me pitching. And its one thing if it happens once in a great while but it seems 75% of the time when I sim a few innings the CPU always goes ahead even if I am ahead by 4 or 5 runs.

                    When you have a pitcher whose ERA is 2.55 during the season and they are giving up two 3 or 4 run innings in a row, something is broken.

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                    • shadow2201
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 446

                      #11
                      Re: simming half innings is definitely off

                      Originally posted by birthday_massacre
                      Not that many runs to go ahead for only simming two innings, esp when my pitcher to that point had only given up 2 or 3 hits with me pitching. And its one thing if it happens once in a great while but it seems 75% of the time when I sim a few innings the CPU always goes ahead even if I am ahead by 4 or 5 runs.

                      When you have a pitcher whose ERA is 2.55 during the season and they are giving up two 3 or 4 run innings in a row, something is broken.
                      I disagree, if you look at real life pitching, guys who have low ERA's have games where they give up a lot of runs, it's just part of the game. Look at Justin Verlander, IRL, came into Cleveland with a 1.55 ERA, gave up 3 runs, 5 walks in 5 innings and got pulled. It's part of the game that pitchers are going to get shelled from time to time! I've been simming innings for years in every game and I've never had an instance where 75% of the time I was simming I was giving up large amounts of runs, so I can't attest to that, I do it all the time and sometimes I get shelled and sometimes I don't! But saying that a guy with a 2.55 ERA can't give up 2, 3, or 4 runs in a row, that's just not realistic. Any pitcher, with any ERA can give up any amount of runs at a moments notice! Now if it happens every single time, then yes something is broken, but in my experience, it doesn't happen every time! If it's happening to you, then yes stop simming, but I can't agree with "When you have a pitcher whose ERA is 2.55 during the season and they are giving up two 3 or 4 run innings in a row, something is broken." cuz that's just nuts to believe that.

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                      • birthday_massacre
                        Pro
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 614

                        #12
                        Re: simming half innings is definitely off

                        Originally posted by shadow2201
                        I disagree, if you look at real life pitching, guys who have low ERA's have games where they give up a lot of runs, it's just part of the game. Look at Justin Verlander, IRL, came into Cleveland with a 1.55 ERA, gave up 3 runs, 5 walks in 5 innings and got pulled. It's part of the game that pitchers are going to get shelled from time to time! I've been simming innings for years in every game and I've never had an instance where 75% of the time I was simming I was giving up large amounts of runs, so I can't attest to that, I do it all the time and sometimes I get shelled and sometimes I don't! But saying that a guy with a 2.55 ERA can't give up 2, 3, or 4 runs in a row, that's just not realistic. Any pitcher, with any ERA can give up any amount of runs at a moments notice! Now if it happens every single time, then yes something is broken, but in my experience, it doesn't happen every time! If it's happening to you, then yes stop simming, but I can't agree with "When you have a pitcher whose ERA is 2.55 during the season and they are giving up two 3 or 4 run innings in a row, something is broken." cuz that's just nuts to believe that.
                        Not when it happens every single time you sim. Its one thing if it happened once in a while but not 75% of the time I sim.

                        It does not happy every time but it does happen most of the time and that is my problem. And the funny thing if I sim a batting inning my team hardly ever scores. Its just funny how simming mid game works.

                        And I would say its broken when that pitcher gives up 3 or 4 runs two innings in a row that I sim.

                        I just think something is broken if I am winning 7-2 then I sum two innings and i look up and its 8-7 and im now losing a majority of the time I sim games.
                        Last edited by birthday_massacre; 05-14-2013, 12:22 AM.

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                        • shadow2201
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 446

                          #13
                          Re: simming half innings is definitely off

                          Originally posted by birthday_massacre
                          Not when it happens every single time you sim. Its one thing if it happened once in a while but not 75% of the time I sim.

                          It does not happy every time but it does happen most of the time and that is my problem. And the funny thing if I sim a batting inning my team hardly ever scores. Its just funny how simming mid game works.

                          And I would say its broken when that pitcher gives up 3 or 4 runs two innings in a row that I sim.

                          I just think something is broken if I am winning 7-2 then I sum two innings and i look up and its 8-7 and im now losing a majority of the time I sim games.
                          How many times have you tested this out, I mean on how many franchises? I agree it's broken if you are having it happen 75% of the time, but I personally have played pry 10 franchises this year, simming, just messing around, playing a few innings, simming a few, etc, and it has pry happened maybe 10% of the time with my top starters. So maybe what you're experiencing is an anomaly or maybe what I have is crazy, but I just personally don't see it! Is anyone else having this problem, where it's happening this often? I know it happens to everyone but 75% seems very high!

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                          • jr86
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 1728

                            #14
                            Re: simming half innings is definitely off

                            Originally posted by shadow2201
                            How many times have you tested this out, I mean on how many franchises? I agree it's broken if you are having it happen 75% of the time, but I personally have played pry 10 franchises this year, simming, just messing around, playing a few innings, simming a few, etc, and it has pry happened maybe 10% of the time with my top starters. So maybe what you're experiencing is an anomaly or maybe what I have is crazy, but I just personally don't see it! Is anyone else having this problem, where it's happening this often? I know it happens to everyone but 75% seems very high!
                            Totally agree.
                            I think guys who are saying it is a broken feature are not giving it a long enough game sample for it to even out. Sure you could sim 3 or 4 games and give up 7+ runs in each one and think that you are getting screwed but you need to give it more time to settle down.
                            Like I mentioned earlier in the thread I am nearly 80 games in to my season simming the user pitching and my Era stands at 3.88.
                            For guys having issues maybe choose a better pitching staff and see how it pans out
                            Last edited by jr86; 05-14-2013, 06:24 AM.

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                            • 3fiddy
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 392

                              #15
                              Re: simming half innings is definitely off

                              Hitting with my pitcher in RTTS seems like the opposing pitcher only faced 3 other batters since the last time I faced him judging on energy. It only moved slightly and moves regularly when I'm ab. test that
                              I play MLB exclusively with my cousin. Usually looking for info on Franchises. We played minor league baseball as 9-10 YOs on the Zephyrs.

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