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  • ViatorLion10
    Banned
    • Mar 2019
    • 368

    #1

    2021 Community Roster Project

    For years I have been searching for the perfect roster to use in franchise mode. The type of roster that makes you never want to leave franchise and makes you want to have multiple files with different teams and strategies. The problem is, MLB The Show’s base rosters are awful.

    Thankfully, we’ve had the roster vault available which has been so helpful. So many great creators have put together really strong rosters to help the community out. However, I still feel like there are some improvements that can be made.

    That is why last year I took advantage of the early days of COVID and dedicated 60+ hours to creating my own roster. It ended up turning out to be a pretty strong roster with nearly 1000 downloads from the vault.

    I want to take it to the next level this year, however, I just don’t have the time to do it single handily. I am a full-time medical student and I just purely do not have 60+ hours to dedicate, so I am asking for help from the community.

    I have been doing some testing to figure out how to best correlate real life stats into MLB The Show ratings and attributes, and I think I got the secret sauce to make the perfect roster set. Here are the features:

    —Accurate ratings of all MLB players corresponding to real life performances (e.g. if a player hits .270 in real life, he should hit roughly .270 in the game)
    —Every team’s top 30 prospects (MLB Pipeline) with accurate ratings based on current performances, future projections, and MLB ETA
    —Tiered potentials based on past, current, and future projection performances for current MLB players and projected future roles for MiLB players (creates a logjam of “average” players and makes “good” and “elite” players feel that way)
    —More accurate pitching positions (e.g. swing pitchers will be RPs with good stamina, only pitchers who have actual potential as CPs will be given that designation)

    Based off of those characteristics, I would need individuals who could do the following:

    —Identify a team’s entire 40-man roster and make sure they are all included in the roster set
    —Do the same with every team’s top 30 prospects
    —Fill out the rest of the 90-man roster with necessary real-life AAA and AA players (this includes and should prioritize former MLB players on minor league contracts)
    —Collect the necessary statistics to properly edit individual MLB player attributes to better represent their actual play in real life
    —Collect scouting reports and specific statistics to properly edit MiLB players (scouting reports accessible through MLB Pipeline)

    Ideally, we could get 30 individuals to edit the 30 teams, but we could work with less than that. I think you could probably get a single team edited in 3-5 hours (that is including all research and preparation time).

    Let me know if you are interested in helping out with this project. Once I get enough interest, I can send out a full plan of attack, including information on how to translate real life performance and potentials into the game. I truly believe we could make one hell of a roster set if we all worked together.
    Last edited by ViatorLion10; 04-27-2021, 11:33 AM.
  • yadi08
    Rookie
    • Mar 2021
    • 32

    #2
    Re: 2021 Community Roster Project

    I'd definetley be interested in helping out with this. If you want I can do equipment edits for all the teams. A spreadsheet would be helpful as I just switched to Xbox this year.

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    • ViatorLion10
      Banned
      • Mar 2019
      • 368

      #3
      Re: 2021 Community Roster Project

      Originally posted by yadi08
      I'd definetley be interested in helping out with this. If you want I can do equipment edits for all the teams. A spreadsheet would be helpful as I just switched to Xbox this year.
      I appreciate you. Equipment edits are a good idea and we could definitely do that. Once I get enough people I’ll set up a spreadsheet for who is supposed to edit who.

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      • yadi08
        Rookie
        • Mar 2021
        • 32

        #4
        Re: 2021 Community Roster Project

        Sounds good! I'll get started on my equipment edits

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        • ViatorLion10
          Banned
          • Mar 2019
          • 368

          #5
          Re: 2021 Community Roster Project

          I gotta think we can get 28 more people to work on this. Hell, even 4 makes the project extremely manageable.


          Let's make the top roster set out there!

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          • Funkycorm
            Cleveland Baseball Guru
            • Nov 2016
            • 3159

            #6
            Re: 2021 Community Roster Project

            I won't quote the full opening but I am curious about something.

            When you mention tier potentials, what does the roster define as the "average" rating and potential? You mentioned the good and elite players feel that way. Just curious if you adopt something similar to the FM scale or something else.

            Also what is your roster's definition of good and elite out of curiosity?
            Last edited by Funkycorm; 04-28-2021, 11:35 AM.
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            • ViatorLion10
              Banned
              • Mar 2019
              • 368

              #7
              Re: 2021 Community Roster Project

              Originally posted by Funkycorm
              I won't quote the full opening but I am curious about something.

              When you mention tier potentials, what does the roster define as the "average" rating and potential? You mentioned the good and elite players feel that way. Just curious if you adopt something similar to the FM scale or something else.

              Also what is your roster's definition of good and elite out of curiosity?

              An "average" player (meaning one who performs at league average statistically; e.g. a hitter who slashes roughly .255/.315/.400) should be right around a 75-76 OVR. Therefore, most players in the league are gonna clump around 72-80ish in overall, with less and less players as you go further up in ratings.


              Think of a "good/great" player being like Javier Baez, and an "elite" player being like Fernando Tatis Jr. Javy would be somewhere in the midish 80s while Tatis would be in the midish 90s


              I'm not going to release a full breakdown of my tiers until the project gets off the ground because I don't really want someone else to take my plan and run, ya know?


              I legit have a whole systematic step-by-step plan that can be followed for everyone who participates that should ensure consistency across all players.

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              • Funkycorm
                Cleveland Baseball Guru
                • Nov 2016
                • 3159

                #8
                Re: 2021 Community Roster Project

                Originally posted by ViatorLion10
                An "average" player (meaning one who performs at league average statistically; e.g. a hitter who slashes roughly .255/.315/.400) should be right around a 75-76 OVR. Therefore, most players in the league are gonna clump around 72-80ish in overall, with less and less players as you go further up in ratings.


                Think of a "good/great" player being like Javier Baez, and an "elite" player being like Fernando Tatis Jr. Javy would be somewhere in the midish 80s while Tatis would be in the midish 90s


                I'm not going to release a full breakdown of my tiers until the project gets off the ground because I don't really want someone else to take my plan and run, ya know?


                I legit have a whole systematic step-by-step plan that can be followed for everyone who participates that should ensure consistency across all players.
                Hey I totally get it. Don't want to spread all your trade secrets. I am the same way. I keep some close to me and share some. Totally get it.

                I was just curious on what your numbers were for average. We have similar thoughts. The FM is just a tad bit high on potentials.
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                • ViatorLion10
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2019
                  • 368

                  #9
                  Re: 2021 Community Roster Project

                  Originally posted by Funkycorm
                  Hey I totally get it. Don't want to spread all your trade secrets. I am the same way. I keep some close to me and share some. Totally get it.

                  I was just curious on what your numbers were for average. We have similar thoughts. The FM is just a tad bit high on potentials.

                  If you're interested in collabing on this project that would be great.


                  As far as potentials and ratings, I've tested and calculated how to best translate real life stats into the game, and with average statistics that is what the average player correlates out to be. So the tier system I have should be smooth for FM. Potentials of prospects will be adjusted accordingly as well (so there will be a lot of C's, some B's, and fewer A's).

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                  • ViatorLion10
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2019
                    • 368

                    #10
                    Re: 2021 Community Roster Project

                    I'm still looking for people to help out on this project!


                    This is a great opportunity to help give the whole community the most complete and accurate roster set possible.

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                    • Thuggyhuggy
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2021
                      • 14

                      #11
                      Re: 2021 Community Roster Project

                      Originally posted by ViatorLion10
                      I'm still looking for people to help out on this project!


                      This is a great opportunity to help give the whole community the most complete and accurate roster set possible.
                      How much are you offering? Ill do it for $300-500 depending on the individual project

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                      • Rmiok222
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 3129

                        #12
                        Re: 2021 Community Roster Project

                        Originally posted by Thuggyhuggy
                        How much are you offering? Ill do it for $300-500 depending on the individual project


                        Obviously a troll.

                        And not very good at it.


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                        • jfarcas14
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                          • Aug 2010
                          • 20

                          #13
                          Re: 2021 Community Roster Project

                          Yo man I’d love to help out. I’m always doing roster edits, especially when it comes to prospects and their terrible ratings/attributes. Ex. SP Jackson Rutledge, RHP prospect from Washington selected in the 1st rd in 2019. Guy has a HUGE arm with a high 90’s FB and electric stuff but I’ve seen SDS and even the amazing Ridin(100% not sarcasm he and his team do great work!) have him with low 90’s heat almost like he’s a finesse pitcher lol. He’s far from that. Anyway I’m all in on this project. PSN is J_Ferg_14. Hit me up anytime. Looking forward to it bro


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                          • ViatorLion10
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2019
                            • 368

                            #14
                            Re: 2021 Community Roster Project

                            Originally posted by Rmiok222
                            Obviously a troll.

                            And not very good at it.


                            Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

                            Pretty blatant, right? lol


                            Could I interest you in helping out the cause my guy?

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                            • ViatorLion10
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2019
                              • 368

                              #15
                              Re: 2021 Community Roster Project

                              Originally posted by jfarcas14
                              Yo man I’d love to help out. I’m always doing roster edits, especially when it comes to prospects and their terrible ratings/attributes. Ex. SP Jackson Rutledge, RHP prospect from Washington selected in the 1st rd in 2019. Guy has a HUGE arm with a high 90’s FB and electric stuff but I’ve seen SDS and even the amazing Ridin(100% not sarcasm he and his team do great work!) have him with low 90’s heat almost like he’s a finesse pitcher lol. He’s far from that. Anyway I’m all in on this project. PSN is J_Ferg_14. Hit me up anytime. Looking forward to it bro


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                              I appreciate you bro! If you have any friends who'd be willing to help out that would be great as well.


                              I'm thinking if we could get at least 6 people that would leave one person to edit a single division (5 teams). Cuts down the workload a ton.

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