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  • CgyFlames
    Pro
    • May 2007
    • 625

    #1

    Revisiting MVP Baseball 2005

    I recently corrected a mistake of my younger self and re-acquired MVP Baseball 2005 for the PlayStation 2. After a decade playing the Show, these are my initial impressions from a few games of MVP 2005, a title often named in “greatest of all time” discussions.

    Keep in mind this was played on original hardware with default sliders and difficulty. The experience is different with mods and emulation, I’m sure.

    - Wow, the pitch speed is so fast. Once I trained my reaction to match MVP’s delivery, it made going back to The Show’s hitting seem like batting practice. Two bones MVP does toss the hitter are that colored “hitters eye” pitch tell and the exact location when the pitcher misses his meter.

    - Pitching is very similar to The Show’s meter. I suppose there’s a reason this control scheme has been a staple of baseball games for a while now.

    - There’s no need for quick counts: you can play every pitch of MVP in the same time it takes to play a QC game of The Show.

    - Related to above, there’s fewer pitches thrown in 9 innings than reality. This was an era before pitch counts really mattered, so you won’t find it on the scorebug and there’s less emphasis on working counts to get hits. Yes, there’s occasional walks, but the focus is on pounding the zone and putting the ball in play.

    - Hitting and pitching animations are definitely clunky and showing their age.

    - Fielding and base running, on the other hand, remain a thing of beauty. I still prefer MVP’s throwing meter to the Show.

    - Owner mode still blows away what The Show’s Franchise offers.

    - “Cooperstown Effect” on the old stadiums is a famous feature, but the lack of classic teams on the default roster is a gaping hole in the retro experience. It was strange seeing David Ortiz go deep at old Fenway behind grainy film.

    - Batting and pitching mini-games remain addictive as ever and, like Maddens of this generation, it’s a great attempt to make pre-season meaningful.

    In summary, I thought it was a great change of pace and still a lot of fun. The gameplay, however, doesn’t measure up to the depth of The Show series, or its myriad of options to customize how you play. In 2023, it’s best for one-off exhibition games or GM sims, not the grind of a 162.
    Last edited by CgyFlames; 11-12-2023, 09:47 AM.
  • rebelscum86
    Rookie
    • Nov 2023
    • 12

    #2
    Re: Revisiting MVP Baseball 2005

    Thanks for the nostalgia hit. In reference to the owner mode which I really miss, what ps4 era of the show has the best franchise? I have 2015 and it's disappointing.

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    • NYJin2011tm
      MVP
      • Oct 2011
      • 2752

      #3
      Re: Revisiting MVP Baseball 2005

      I go back and play one of the old mvp/triple play games. I forget which one it was but I just love that HR Derby in the living room lol. I actually wish the Show would do something like that.

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      • CgyFlames
        Pro
        • May 2007
        • 625

        #4
        Re: Revisiting MVP Baseball 2005

        Originally posted by NYJin2011tm
        I go back and play one of the old mvp/triple play games. I forget which one it was but I just love that HR Derby in the living room lol. I actually wish the Show would do something like that.

        Triple Play Baseball (EA’s 2001 season game) has it. Maybe other years but that was one I owned on PC many years ago. That was the “arcade” era - when EA rebooted the series as MVP they embraced much more simulation gameplay.


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        • SuicideSqueeze
          Rookie
          • May 2016
          • 144

          #5
          Re: Revisiting MVP Baseball 2005

          Used to play High Heat on PC, loved that game. Was available on PS2

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          • Majingir
            Moderator
            • Apr 2005
            • 46989

            #6
            Re: Revisiting MVP Baseball 2005

            Best soundtrack ever and one of the most fun mini game modes ever.

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            • CBoller1331
              It Appears I Blue Myself
              • Dec 2013
              • 3085

              #7
              Re: Revisiting MVP Baseball 2005

              Originally posted by Majingir
              Best soundtrack ever and one of the most fun mini game modes ever.
              I didn't even own the game (would only play it with my cousin at family holidays) and have had 3-4 songs make their way into my regular rotations - just sort of random "I remember this from somewhere"
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              • Armor and Sword
                The Lama
                • Sep 2010
                • 21551

                #8
                Re: Revisiting MVP Baseball 2005

                Originally posted by CgyFlames
                I recently corrected a mistake of my younger self and re-acquired MVP Baseball 2005 for the PlayStation 2. After a decade playing the Show, these are my initial impressions from a few games of MVP 2005, a title often named in “greatest of all time” discussions.

                Keep in mind this was played on original hardware with default sliders and difficulty. The experience is different with mods and emulation, I’m sure.

                - Wow, the pitch speed is so fast. Once I trained my reaction to match MVP’s delivery, it made going back to The Show’s hitting seem like batting practice. Two bones MVP does toss the hitter are that colored “hitters eye” pitch tell and the exact location when the pitcher misses his meter.

                - Pitching is very similar to The Show’s meter. I suppose there’s a reason this control scheme has been a staple of baseball games for a while now.

                - There’s no need for quick counts: you can play every pitch of MVP in the same time it takes to play a QC game of The Show.

                - Related to above, there’s fewer pitches thrown in 9 innings than reality. This was an era before pitch counts really mattered, so you won’t find it on the scorebug and there’s less emphasis on working counts to get hits. Yes, there’s occasional walks, but the focus is on pounding the zone and putting the ball in play.

                - Hitting and pitching animations are definitely clunky and showing their age.

                - Fielding and base running, on the other hand, remain a thing of beauty. I still prefer MVP’s throwing meter to the Show.

                - Owner mode still blows away what The Show’s Franchise offers.

                - “Cooperstown Effect” on the old stadiums is a famous feature, but the lack of classic teams on the default roster is a gaping hole in the retro experience. It was strange seeing David Ortiz go deep at old Fenway behind grainy film.

                - Batting and pitching mini-games remain addictive as ever and, like Maddens of this generation, it’s a great attempt to make pre-season meaningful.

                In summary, I thought it was a great change of pace and still a lot of fun. The gameplay, however, doesn’t measure up to the depth of The Show series, or its myriad of options to customize how you play. In 2023, it’s best for one-off exhibition games or GM sims, not the grind of a 162.

                Ahhhh yes...remember this one well. Played 5 straight 162 game seasons every pitch every inning with the Marlins on my PS2.

                Then moved onto the PS3 and MLB The Show 2009.

                It was a great game.....so was MVP College Baseball 2007!!!! So much fun and worth a look back too!!!
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                • MannybeingManny
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 198

                  #9
                  Re: Revisiting MVP Baseball 2005

                  MVP nailed directional hitting
                  Year 20 of playing MLB The Show!

                  “It's unbelievable how much you don't know about the game you've been playing all your life” -Mickey Mantle

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                  • 405Cowboy
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 1488

                    #10
                    Re: Revisiting MVP Baseball 2005

                    It was a fun, fun, FUN game!!!!!


                    Hitting was superb. Plus all those classic stadiums.


                    Also they had some beautiful throwback jerseys that SDS won't touch and ad sadly.


                    1971 Baltimore Orange Top/Pants
                    1983 "Winning Ugly" White Sox Home/Away
                    1975 Oakland Green Top w/Yellow Undershirts
                    1997 Marlins Teal Top
                    1984 Mets Away Blue Alternate Top
                    1982 Milwaukee Brewers Home/Away
                    1994 Milwaukee Brewers Alternate Navy
                    1979 Pittsburgh Black Pants/Yellow Trousers/Yellow cap
                    Last edited by 405Cowboy; 12-06-2023, 08:25 PM.
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                    • myabrownn
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2023
                      • 6

                      #11
                      Re: Revisiting MVP Baseball 2005

                      Your journey down the MVP Baseball 2005 nostalgia lane sounds like a blast! It's funny how games from the past can still surprise us. Reminds me of this one time I stumbled upon some classic PS2 games during a hunt for nostalgia, much like finding hidden gems in dubai desert safari deals.

                      Anyway, your insights on the pitch speed and gameplay differences are intriguing. It's like exploring the dunes – the terrain may be different, but the adventure remains. Enjoy your gaming time and perhaps uncover some more unexpected treasures, both in virtual ballparks and desert landscapes.
                      Last edited by myabrownn; 12-14-2023, 03:12 AM.

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                      • LegendKillerOne
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2019
                        • 1765

                        #12
                        Re: Revisiting MVP Baseball 2005

                        There had been rumors about MVP coming back in 2024 but then EA never backed it up anywhere official that I say so I assume its not a legit rumor?
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                        • CgyFlames
                          Pro
                          • May 2007
                          • 625

                          #13
                          Re: Revisiting MVP Baseball 2005

                          Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                          It was a great game.....so was MVP College Baseball 2007!!!! So much fun and worth a look back too!!!
                          I never played the NCAA years but that’s on my shortlist to acquire soon. I’ll probably play an entire season of college ball. Of course those NCAA games had (simplified) stadium creator more than a decade before SDS.

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                          • DrJones
                            All Star
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 9053

                            #14
                            Re: Revisiting MVP Baseball 2005

                            Originally posted by 405Cowboy
                            Also they had some beautiful throwback jerseys that SDS won't touch and ad sadly.


                            1971 Baltimore Orange Top/Pants
                            1983 "Winning Ugly" White Sox Home/Away
                            1975 Oakland Green Top w/Yellow Undershirts
                            1997 Marlins Teal Top
                            1984 Mets Away Blue Alternate Top
                            1982 Milwaukee Brewers Home/Away
                            1994 Milwaukee Brewers Alternate Navy
                            1979 Pittsburgh Black Pants/Yellow Trousers/Yellow cap
                            I was the lucky one who got to choose which retro uni sets we'd use. Our artists probably wanted to kill me, but they did amazing work!
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                            Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
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                            DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
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                            yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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                            • soxfanbs91
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2020
                              • 303

                              #15
                              Re: Revisiting MVP Baseball 2005

                              Originally posted by CgyFlames
                              I recently corrected a mistake of my younger self and re-acquired MVP Baseball 2005 for the PlayStation 2. After a decade playing the Show, these are my initial impressions from a few games of MVP 2005, a title often named in “greatest of all time” discussions.

                              Keep in mind this was played on original hardware with default sliders and difficulty. The experience is different with mods and emulation, I’m sure.

                              - Wow, the pitch speed is so fast. Once I trained my reaction to match MVP’s delivery, it made going back to The Show’s hitting seem like batting practice. Two bones MVP does toss the hitter are that colored “hitters eye” pitch tell and the exact location when the pitcher misses his meter.

                              - Pitching is very similar to The Show’s meter. I suppose there’s a reason this control scheme has been a staple of baseball games for a while now.

                              - There’s no need for quick counts: you can play every pitch of MVP in the same time it takes to play a QC game of The Show.

                              - Related to above, there’s fewer pitches thrown in 9 innings than reality. This was an era before pitch counts really mattered, so you won’t find it on the scorebug and there’s less emphasis on working counts to get hits. Yes, there’s occasional walks, but the focus is on pounding the zone and putting the ball in play.

                              - Hitting and pitching animations are definitely clunky and showing their age.

                              - Fielding and base running, on the other hand, remain a thing of beauty. I still prefer MVP’s throwing meter to the Show.

                              - Owner mode still blows away what The Show’s Franchise offers.

                              - “Cooperstown Effect” on the old stadiums is a famous feature, but the lack of classic teams on the default roster is a gaping hole in the retro experience. It was strange seeing David Ortiz go deep at old Fenway behind grainy film.

                              - Batting and pitching mini-games remain addictive as ever and, like Maddens of this generation, it’s a great attempt to make pre-season meaningful.

                              In summary, I thought it was a great change of pace and still a lot of fun. The gameplay, however, doesn’t measure up to the depth of The Show series, or its myriad of options to customize how you play. In 2023, it’s best for one-off exhibition games or GM sims, not the grind of a 162.
                              I do wish there was a way to not use quick counts and still have it feel fast. I do like working counts, I just hate how long the games can be. And I hate how it effects the pitch count/stamine (pitch count near 100 in the 5th inning).

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