"Sweeper" vs. Slider vs. Sweeping Curveball

[Cod]

Quote: Originally Posted by InASimulation

It would be truly sick if they added a real pitch speed option, it would literally change the game.

Konami's Pro Yakyuu Spirits (PYS) has had a real pitch speed option since PES 2015 and you're correct, it's a game changer. Here's an example from PYS 2019: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz7WgX-CgD0.

Really, adding motion blur to the game alone would improve the pitcher / batter realism.

[ChaseB]

Bumping for an early afternoon post as well but will use this thread.

[Madden08PCgmr]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ghost Of The Year

Here's another pitch Sony needs to put a little TLC into: Minnesota closer Duran has a splitter that he throws 98 MPH but you can't replicate that speed with that a splitter currently. Some are calling his splitter a ''Splinker'', a hybrid splitter/sinker. In any event, it's one nasty pitch I'd love to see in the Show.

Very similar to Randy Johnson once he started settling down.

He wasn't hitting that high velocity though..

[ChaseB]

Article is also up, thanks to those in the thread for carrying the convo, just wanted to put it all together in a more organized fashion on the whole and bring it all together

[Ghost Of The Year]

If the developers decide against adding the new sweeper, or any other pitch they don't currently have, like the gyro, I would like to see them make it possible to allocate the same pitch in multiple pitch slot selections. And if they could go one step beyond that, let us edit the name of pitches. Like if I were playing with Doc Gooden, I could rename his curveball Lord Charles. Or rename Tyler Glasnow splitter/curve hybrid a slutter.

[DonkeyJote]

I wish they'd just go the 2k route and have separate horizontal and vertical ratings for pitches, so pitches could have their appropriate movement profiles.

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[CBoller1331]

From the gameplay videos I've seen on YouTube, it appears that this year SDS has assigned the slurve to guys who throw what is now considered a "sweeper", and have kept the regular slider for guys who throw more of a traditional "gyro" slider.

I kind of like that approach, as the slurve has a bit more of that "frisbee" action that you see from the big sweepers compared to the traditional slider

[DonkeyJote]

Quote: Originally Posted by CBoller1331

From the gameplay videos I've seen on YouTube, it appears that this year SDS has assigned the slurve to guys who throw what is now considered a "sweeper", and have kept the regular slider for guys who throw more of a traditional "gyro" slider. I kind of like that approach, as the slurve has a bit more of that "frisbee" action that you see from the big sweepers compared to the traditional slider

Eh, the Slurve has the loopier action of a sweeper, but has a ton more downward movement. Sweepers don't emphasize vertical break, that's why some guys throw them up in the zone more than they would a slider, slurve, or curve.

The Slurve has also been used for guys that throw a Curve. Charlie Morton, for example, who doesn't throw a slider or sweeper, but rather a traditional curve. Or Kyle Wright, who Savant has throwing a Knuckle Curve, but SDS gives him a Slurve instead. So a Slurve is being used as both a type of Curveball with downward break, and a Sweeper which isn't supposed to have a ton of downward break.

I think they've used the Knuckle Curve in place of a gyro slider for some guys in the past too; guys who get a ton of downward movement on their sliders.

It's the same approach they've mostly taken the last couple years. It's probably the best approach they can take with their available tools, but they really need better tools.

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