"Sweeper" vs. Slider vs. Sweeping Curveball

[Ghost Of The Year]

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The last few years have seen more and more pitchers start throwing a new version of the Slider, a ''Sweeper''. It's typically thrown slower than a regular Slider, resulting in much more horizontal break. So in game, is this new ''Sweeper'' more akin to the Sweeping Curveball, or is it still closer to the regular Slider? Is it time for Sony to add this new pitch to the mix, or does the regular Slider and/or Sweeping Curveball replicate the ''Sweeper'' well enough?

[CBoller1331]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ghost Of The Year

The last few years have seen more and more pitchers start throwing a new version of the Slider, a ''Sweeper''. It's typically thrown slower than a regular Slider, resulting in much more horizontal break. So in game, is this new ''Sweeper'' more akin to the Sweeping Curveball, or is it still closer to the regular Slider? Is it time for Sony to add this new pitch to the mix, or does the regular Slider and/or Sweeping Curveball replicate the ''Sweeper'' well enough?

I think the regular Slider replicates this pitch best, as it already moves pretty strictly horizontally. Maybe the "Slurve" could be a good replacement if you prefer to differentiate it from a traditional slider. I think the Max break on a Slurve is bigger than the max break on the Slider in the game.

The Sweeping Curve in the game is a bit too "loopy" and has too much downward break to replicate the Sweeper IRL

[IndianSummer]

I haven’t really looked into this but in real life arm slot position has an impact on how the pitch reacts as far as horizontal break or more of a downward break.
Sidearm pitch is more horizontal and an overhead pitch will be more downward.

[The Gamer]

Great topic

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[Ghost Of The Year]

Quote: Originally Posted by CBoller1331

The Sweeping Curve in the game is a bit too "loopy" and has too much downward break to replicate the Sweeper IRL

Thank-you CB, I think this boils it down perfectly to what I wanted to know. Looking at it in game, I can see that now. Thanks again.

[0blong00]

I think the slurve is the closest. I say this because there was veteran pitcher last year (sorry I can’t remember who it was) whose pitch was being identified as a sweeper but he insisted it was a slurve. Also I find the slurve to be the hardest pitch to handle in the game. For whatever that’s worth.

[Ghost Of The Year]

Quote: Originally Posted by 0blong00

I think the slurve is the closest. I say this because there was veteran pitcher last year (sorry I can’t remember who it was) whose pitch was being identified as a sweeper but he insisted it was a slurve. Also I find the slurve to be the hardest pitch to handle in the game. For whatever that’s worth.

That sounds like probably ex-Met Zack Wheeler.

I see some pitchers throwing both a traditional a slider in addition to the exaggerated sweeper slider. It's a shame you can't give a pitcher two of the same pitch, with very different speeds and break. It looks like any changes I'll make will be using the slurve as a sweeper, and leave a pitchers slider as is.

[0blong00]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ghost Of The Year

That sounds like probably ex-Met Zack Wheeler. I see some pitchers throwing both a traditional a slider in addition to the exaggerated sweeper slider. It's a shame you can't give a pitcher two of the same pitch, with very different speeds and break. It looks like any changes I'll make will be using the slurve as a sweeper, and leave a pitchers slider as is.

Very well could be. I really can’t remember what game was watching last year where they were talking about this.