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  • twl221
    MVP
    • Oct 2008
    • 1045

    #1

    MLB the Show: General Manager options, and how to make full effect of them.

    Hello all! As an avid MLBTS player for the past 7 years, I have paid little to no attention to all the wonderful and fully immersive options granted to us by the developers at SCEA; specifically, all the tools of the trade when it comes to managing an effective roster. Now, in no case am I an expert on the items, but I have recently become more engaged with this kind of stuff. I mean not to point out the obvious, but I will do my best to give an understanding of some stuff that I know I had trouble with my first couple of years. That being said, please correct me if I am wrong in any statement that I make, and contribute as much as you can!

    Player Control Rights
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    Service time
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    Arbitration
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    DFA
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    Draft
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    Qualified Free Agency
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    Options
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    The Rule 5 Draft
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    Contract Renewal
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    Super 2 exception
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    More Waiver Wire Stuff
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    I think I hit on everything, just click on a spoiler tag and hopefully your questions will be answered. I am looking to add more, especially if I forgot something, and because I don't know everything. I will certainly try to answer any and all questions on points of clarification!
    Last edited by twl221; 06-19-2014, 07:51 PM. Reason: Edited, added stuff, fixed errors.
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  • extremeskins04
    That's top class!
    • Aug 2010
    • 3864

    #2
    Re: MLB the Show: General Manager options, and how to make full effect of them.

    This is great info. I still don't understand everything but I'm trying to learn it. Like for instance the Qualifying Free Agency.

    Please correct me if I'm wrong but Qualifying agents are those that you pay $11 mil for 1 year for and if a different team wants him for that, then they will give you a compensatory pick for it. But if they don't want the player, then I'm stuck with paying this player alot of money for just 1 year?

    My budget was $50mil. So this means that if no other team wanted that player, then I would have to pay him $11mil for just ONE year thereby deducting that $11mil from my $50mil budget.

    If I'm correct in this, that kinda sucks because my qualifiers are usually mid 70's in overall so it's a gamble whether a team picks him up or not. If they don't, I'm stuck with using a good chunk of my budget.

    Correct?
    Last edited by extremeskins04; 05-30-2014, 09:29 AM.

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    • twl221
      MVP
      • Oct 2008
      • 1045

      #3
      Re: MLB the Show: General Manager options, and how to make full effect of them.

      Yeah, those are the guys who will get the 1 year offer. The salary is actually not set; it is the average salary of the top 125 most expensive contracts. If another team does sign him, after he refuses the offer, you will receive a compensatory pick next year. (Remember you must submit a qualifying offer to have a chance at this pick)

      There really is no general rule of thumb when it comes to these guys, but I don't submit a qualifying offer unless they're 83+ or a key part of my team. This is how I handle them and not at all a strict guideline.
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      • B Easy
        Rookie
        • Apr 2009
        • 373

        #4
        Re: MLB the Show: General Manager options, and how to make full effect of them.

        Nice thread. I plan on taking the GM role more seriously this year, and utilize all of the options we're given to the fullest. I already know what most of the terms mean, but I'm still iffy on arbitration for some reason lol. Hopefully I get it figured out before my first off season!

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        • BA2929
          The Designated Hitter
          • Jul 2008
          • 3342

          #5
          Re: MLB the Show: General Manager options, and how to make full effect of them.

          Originally posted by extremeskins04
          This is great info. I still don't understand everything but I'm trying to learn it. Like for instance the Qualifying Free Agency.

          Please correct me if I'm wrong but Qualifying agents are those that you pay $11 mil for 1 year for and if a different team wants him for that, then they will give you a compensatory pick for it. But if they don't want the player, then I'm stuck with paying this player alot of money for just 1 year?

          My budget was $50mil. So this means that if no other team wanted that player, then I would have to pay him $11mil for just ONE year thereby deducting that $11mil from my $50mil budget.

          If I'm correct in this, that kinda sucks because my qualifiers are usually mid 70's in overall so it's a gamble whether a team picks him up or not. If they don't, I'm stuck with using a good chunk of my budget.

          Correct?
          That is correct. Last season the Royals offered Ervin Santana a 1 year qualifying offer at $14 million (that was the qualifying offer price for this season). If he accepted, they would have had to pay him that price for one season. However, if someone else signs him (like the Braves did) they must forfeit a draft pick for the rights to sign the player. Usually qualifying offers are only given to potentially top tier FAs. The Royals will most likely give James Shields a qualifying offer this off-season.

          Personally, I wouldn't give a QA to a player unless you really want to keep him and don't have the budget to sign him to a long-term deal. Or he's a super top FA guy like James Shields that you have no chance to resign so you can at least get a draft pick out of losing him. There were only 13 players who got a QA in 2013.


          Here's a little more info on the subject if you want to check it out: http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/1...ng-offers.html
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          • tessl
            All Star
            • Apr 2007
            • 5664

            #6
            Re: MLB the Show: General Manager options, and how to make full effect of them.

            Good job putting together that information.

            A couple additional things about free agents. No team has to forfeit a top 10 pick in the draft. If a team finished in the bottom 10 in MLB and signs a qualified free agent they forfeit their 2nd round pick.

            If a qualified free agent is signed after opening day to a one year contract or if a player is acquired in his free agent year the team may not submit a qualifying offer.

            If a qualified free agent is signed after the June draft the team does not lose a draft pick.

            I'm not sure if all that is in mlbts but it is the rule in MLB.

            -I believe, but cannot confirm, that if a team fails to resign a first round player in the draft, that in next year's draft said team will receive a supplemental pick. I need conformation on this.

            -If a team fails to sign either the first or second round pick they receive the same slot pick +1 in the next year's draft. For example if a team fails to sign the #4 overall pick the following year they get the #5 overall pick. If they fail to sign #45 in round 2 they get #46 the following year. Compensation for failing to sign a 3rd round pick is a wedge pick the following year between the 3rd and 4th rounds.

            If you fail to sign the compensatory pick the following year you lose the pick, it does not carry over.
            Last edited by tessl; 05-30-2014, 07:37 PM.

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            • twl221
              MVP
              • Oct 2008
              • 1045

              #7
              Re: MLB the Show: General Manager options, and how to make full effect of them.

              Ok, I'll be sure to update that later; I did add the info about no top 10 picks lost, but I'll probably make another subsection about tendering and other free agent details.
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              • BA2929
                The Designated Hitter
                • Jul 2008
                • 3342

                #8
                Re: MLB the Show: General Manager options, and how to make full effect of them.

                Originally posted by tessl

                -I believe, but cannot confirm, that if a team fails to resign a first round player in the draft, that in next year's draft said team will receive a supplemental pick. I need conformation on this.
                That's true in real life (add in 2nd and 3rd rounders), not sure about the game as this is my first MLBTS and I haven't gotten that far in my Franchise.

                Teams that fail to sign a first or second round pick will be compensated by receiving a virtually identical pick (plus one) in the following year's draft (ex., a team that fails to sign the No. 5 pick in 2006 receives the No. 6 pick in 2007). A team that fails to sign a second round pick gets virtually the identical pick the following season regardless of the round (for example, if Boston fails to sign pick #62, it will receive pick #62A (~63) in the next year's draft, regardless of whether pick #62A falls in the supplemental round, the second round, or the third round). A team that fails to sign a third-round pick receives a sandwich pick between the third and fourth rounds. None of these picks may be forfeited. Additionally, these compensation picks cannot be parlayed into compensation picks in a later draft. If a player selected as compensation for failure to sign a previous year's draftee also goes unsigned, the team does not have a right to compensation for the unsigned player
                Last edited by BA2929; 05-30-2014, 08:57 PM.
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                • roidrager12345
                  Banned
                  • May 2014
                  • 7

                  #9
                  Re: MLB the Show: General Manager options, and how to make full effect of them.

                  the only problem I see as far as the game representing all these operations is with qualifying offers. We all know that the salaries in the game don't really make sense. Mid level guys that could command ~10 mil per year in real life are only earning 1-2 mil in the game. The qualifying offer for the first year is around 9-10 million, making it really hard to get supplemental picks on guys you should be able to get them from, because they will take the massive pay raise reather than signing with another team.

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                  • RyanF612
                    Just started!
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 1

                    #10
                    Re: MLB the Show: General Manager options, and how to make full effect of them.

                    -If a team signs a player who has been offered a qualifying offer, the team from which he was signed will receive a supplementary draft pick, and the team who signed him loses it's first round pick (see Draft).[/spoiler]

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                    How do I know if the player has been offered a qualifying offer by his former team? For instance, I am trying to sign a player who has "Qualified" next to them but no offers on the table. They are not worth me losing a draft pick to sign, so I don't want to mess this up

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                    • Brandwin
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 30621

                      #11
                      Re: MLB the Show: General Manager options, and how to make full effect of them.

                      Good stuff. A lot of things I don't understand when it comes to things like this and the MLB.

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                      • Matty86
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 481

                        #12
                        Re: MLB the Show: General Manager options, and how to make full effect of them.

                        So do the contract renewable guys basically just auto resign for 1 year? I don't have to negotiate with them for long term deals?
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                        • jmaj315
                          Pro
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 993

                          #13
                          Re: MLB the Show: General Manager options, and how to make full effect of them.

                          Originally posted by Matty86
                          So do the contract renewable guys basically just auto resign for 1 year? I don't have to negotiate with them for long term deals?
                          They don't auto re-sign. But if you offer them a deal and they don't accept it you can choose to renew their contract, which means a 1 year deal for no less than 80% of their previous salary.

                          So those minor league guys, and some young major leaguers, who want like 2 million.... you can give them a one year deal for nothing basically.

                          Id compare it to the NBA rookie deals, 2 years plus 2 year club option. The Derrick Rose situation comes to mind. He was MVP his 3rd year in the league and his 4th year he was still only making like 4million or something... then afterward he got a max deal.

                          So Use it while you can to save money, those young guys might not produce and not require a ton of cash. But I'd say that if they are 80+ ovr and at least a B potential that you should try to pay them before they ask for 10mil per year.

                          (sorry for the rambling)
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                          • Millennium
                            Franchise Streamer
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 9889

                            #14
                            Re: MLB the Show: General Manager options, and how to make full effect of them.

                            Stuck, as this thread has AWESOME information laid out for Franchise mode.
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                            • twl221
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 1045

                              #15
                              Re: MLB the Show: General Manager options, and how to make full effect of them.

                              I'll reedit everything that I missed tonight, now that I feel the obligation to do so.
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