Discussion: Hits down the line

[Don Jon]

This has always been a thread I wanted to create, but I wanted to make sure I had good videos to back up my points. Hits down the line in the show rarely if ever get deep into the corner, and more times than not, they only end up in singles. This is because the RF or LF get there within two or three seconds and cut it off before you can even think of going for two bases.

I believe the problem with hits right down the line in the show is of of these things.
A. the outfielders are too fast
B. The outfielders are positioned too close to the line
C. The outfield isn't big enough.

Idk but thats why I'm opening it up for discussion. Im interested to see if others are experiencing this and what you all believe is the issue.

Also, if someone fixed this with sliders, please let me know.

On this play, if the outfielder did not go into that extended wall animation, I would've been out by a mile at 2nd
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Notice how in the two videos below, they don't even attempt a throw to second, and none of these two are burners on the bases. They just get there too late
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFSqMAsXdKs

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[nomo17k]

Re: Discussion: Hits down the line

Hits down the line not slicing away from the fair ground is I think one of the few remaining shortcomings of the ball physics in The Show.

Outfielder positioning could still be one aspect, but the ball physics doesn't get side spin correct once the ball makes any contact with surface.

I've also tried to bring this up before

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ill-lacks.html

and I hope this will be addressed in the future version of The Show. I think getting this aspect of ball spin correct will further increase the hit variety in the outfield.

[bukktown]

Re: Discussion: Hits down the line

Hits down the line not slicing away from the fair ground is I think one of the few remaining shortcomings of the ball physics in The Show.

Outfielder positioning could still be one aspect, but the ball physics doesn't get side spin correct once the ball makes any contact with surface.

I've also tried to bring this up before

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ill-lacks.html

and I hope this will be addressed in the future version of The Show. I think getting this aspect of ball spin correct will further increase the hit variety in the outfield.

This is a big part of the problem. Also when these balls do slice and bounce off of the side walls the outfielders usually slow to gauge caroms.

[nomo17k]

Re: Discussion: Hits down the line

This is a big part of the problem. Also when these balls do slice and bounce off of the side walls the outfielders usually slow to gauge caroms.

Yes indeed... the difficulty of handling carom is an additional "unpredictable" element that slows the play down the line, allowing more time for the runner to stretch what currently is a single in The Show to a double.

Hopefully that gets factored in without triggering that "fielder getting sucked into the wall" animation that takes away user control... it's a great point that the fielder often "slows" his game down to handle them properly.

[KBLover]

Re: Discussion: Hits down the line

Also, if someone fixed this with sliders, please let me know.

For A. that you mention, you can try lowering Fielder Speed. I still have mine at 0 from MLB15. Not sure if that's ideal now, but it helps without preventing fielders from making plays.

[CanOfCornCobb]

Re: Discussion: Hits down the line

I was going to comment on the ball physics a couple hours ago, but wanted to see what others were going to say first. I completely agree with everything said. Its a combo of everything. By default outfielders are too fast to the ball, but most importantly the ball physics are incorrect. You can still see the tail of the ball when it is hit down the line, but it is not as dramatic as it should be. The most important part, however, is that when the ball bounces with that much spin it kicks towards the side wall at such an angle that its impossible for the outfielder to attack it aggressively and, if he does, he risks a misplay and a 3 bagger. Its as simple as improving ball physics. Not saying there are no ball physics in MLB 16, its just that its not as accurate as real life.

[Cman9]

Re: Discussion: Hits down the line

"Hits down the line not slicing away from the fair ground is I think one of the few remaining shortcomings of the ball physics in The Show."

Bingo!

[Don Jon]

Re: Discussion: Hits down the line

I never really thought about the ball spin, nomo, your thread brings up good points.

Something that could take this game to the next level.

[strawberryshortcake]

Re: Discussion: Hits down the line

All I know is I've never had a double down the line. It's always a single.

The ball also never gets all the way down the line to the wall, it always seems to stop in front of the outfielder.

[KBLover]

Re: Discussion: Hits down the line

All I know is I've never had a double down the line. It's always a single.

The ball also never gets all the way down the line to the wall, it always seems to stop in front of the outfielder.

Yeah.

In MLB15 - I turned power on both sides up to 10 and that helped. I might have to do it again.

[Jr.]

Re: Discussion: Hits down the line

I do think it's a combination of the ball not going toward the wall on hits down the line, and the OF getting to the ball too fast.

I completely agree that the OF seems too small. I know they have it measured out, but I think that players cover too much ground with their strides, which throws off the dimensions.

[rh123]

Re: Discussion: Hits down the line

How do I post a video that I recorded from the game on here? I have one of the exact reason we dont see more doubles down the line.

[rh123]

Re: Discussion: Hits down the line

Hits down the line not slicing away from the fair ground is I think one of the few remaining shortcomings of the ball physics in The Show.

Outfielder positioning could still be one aspect, but the ball physics doesn't get side spin correct once the ball makes any contact with surface.

I've also tried to bring this up before

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ill-lacks.html

and I hope this will be addressed in the future version of The Show. I think getting this aspect of ball spin correct will further increase the hit variety in the outfield.

Sorry I didnt see this post before I asked about the video. That is exactly what it is. When the ball is hit it spins correctly, but once the ball hits the ground it spins in a straight line and does not continue its normal spin which may take it away from the OFer.

[Will I Am]

Re: Discussion: Hits down the line

This has been a topic of discussion for as long as I can remember so I seriously doubt we will ever see a resolution. Maybe with a totally new game engine.

[nomo17k]

Re: Discussion: Hits down the line

How do I post a video that I recorded from the game on here? I have one of the exact reason we dont see more doubles down the line.

Linking your PSN account to your account on either YouTube or Twitter may be the easiest way.