Why do people say hitting is broken?

[matthewk]

I just started playing '18, which will be my baseball game for this year. I keep reading posts here and other places about hitting being broken. Why is that? In my limited time so far the hitting feels just like the last few years.

IMO zone has always been broken for me because the PCI locks as soon as you begin your swing. Because of that I just can't use zone. I still can't seem to decide between directional and whatever the other option is called where you swing with the right analog and swing out or in to get to pitches outside or inside. None of these options feels as good as the 2K series did with the zone hitting that flowed as you swung. I don't like how directional is an influence on how you want to hit the ball and not where you want your swing to be. If I want to push a ball to the opposite side, let me control that by swinging later. If I want to get air under a ball, let me choose to swing under it.

I'm just trying to find a hitting option that satisfies me, and I'm a little concerned about posts saying hitting in '18 is messed up. Maybe I should go back to '17 if '18 wrecked things.

[Caulfield]

Re: Why do people say hitting is broken?

This is my theory: 1) they dont have sliders tuned right 2) they're playing on the wrong difficulty level 3) they're playing with the padres phillies or mets

[bacon96]

Re: Why do people say hitting is broken?

This is my theory: 1) they dont have sliders tuned right 2) they're playing on the wrong difficulty level 3) they're playing with the padres phillies or mets

Yeap. Very correct. Sliders and difficulty make a big difference in perception of the game. You just gotta find a happy medium where it's a little difficult and a little fun.

[Armor and Sword]

Why do people say hitting is broken?

Yeap. Very correct. Sliders and difficulty make a big difference in perception of the game. You just gotta find a happy medium where it's a little difficult and a little fun.

Exactly. Today.....played a franchise game with my Fantasy Cardinals team. Hit two gap triples with Ender Inciarte (contact hitter)....not one...two.

Most know my play style and sliders and settings. Hitting for me has never been better than it was on 18.




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[Syce]

Re: Why do people say hitting is broken?

hitting was essentially broken in the Online portion of the Game. Because Power hitters were the META. which means, if any player that has low power and high contact(for example Robby Alomar Jr.) were crap. And even SDS devs Admitted they were not working correctly, which is why they added some back end power to contact hitters(im talking in the Coding of the game not what we the players see in game)

[KBLover]

Re: Why do people say hitting is broken?

Exactly. Today.....played a franchise game with my Fantasy Cardinals team. Hit two gap triples with Ender Inciarte (contact hitter)....not one...two.

Yep - I love these kinds of hitters.

I'm over here building the Rockies for gap power + Joey Gallo lol

[BigOscar]

Re: Why do people say hitting is broken?

It's all well and good saying it's all about getting the right sliders, but you can't change them in DD, so if the default sliders aren't up to scratch then a lot of people are going to say hitting is broken.

[JayhawkerStL]

Re: Why do people say hitting is broken?

One of the things that really soured me on sim sports was the realization that we create the exact challenge we want. As we adjust sliders, we get numbers we want, but never really learn to play better. It’s paint by numbers.

Sports is about competing, whether against yourself or others. Tweaking sliders is antithetical to that. If I dial in my sliders do that my players hit and pitch realistically, I’m not competing. I’m coloring.

If I tweak sliders and throw a no-hitter, so what? If you do that in DD, you are operating under the same sliders. At the end of a game, I’m looking at how I can improve, not how I can tweak sliders.

Honestly, this is why the loss of online franchise modes suck. Regardless of how you might tweak sliders, everyone is operating on the same system.

I’ve gone to playing sports games with as few changes to default sliders as much as possible, even solo. I’m quit worrying about every sim stat, and just started playing and competing. Once I stopped playing sports games to find what’s wrong, I enjoyed them so much more.

[bcruise]

Re: Why do people say hitting is broken?

One of the things that really soured me on sim sports was the realization that we create the exact challenge we want. As we adjust sliders, we get numbers we want, but never really learn to play better. It’s paint by numbers.

Sports is about competing, whether against yourself or others. Tweaking sliders is antithetical to that. If I dial in my sliders do that my players hit and pitch realistically, I’m not competing. I’m coloring.

If I tweak sliders and throw a no-hitter, so what? If you do that in DD, you are operating under the same sliders. At the end of a game, I’m looking at how I can improve, not how I can tweak sliders.

Honestly, this is why the loss of online franchise modes suck. Regardless of how you might tweak sliders, everyone is operating on the same system.

I’ve gone to playing sports games with as few changes to default sliders as much as possible, even solo. I’m quit worrying about every sim stat, and just started playing and competing. Once I stopped playing sports games to find what’s wrong, I enjoyed them so much more.

This is one reason I feel like playing a lot of DD vs the CPU over the the past two cycles has made me a better player - since I can't change the sliders to manipulate the game into producing certain results, I can concentrate solely on what I'm doing right and wrong. And at the same time, I'm also getting a really good baseline for how the game plays.

That said, when I start to notice trends game after game in those static-setting DD games that are out of my control as the user, that is when I look to adjust things for the offline game. There was very little for me to change off of default legend this year, assuming the teams are of similar ratings - strikeouts for me while batting was really the only thing that completely disappeared from time to time.

[DodgerFanatic2K3]

Re: Why do people say hitting is broken?

The only thing broken is the complete lack of infield high choppers and slow rollers past the pitcher that make the SS or 2B have to charge in and throw. Every slow roller is gobbled up by the pitcher or catcher or rolls to the infielder

[bronxbombers21325]

Re: Why do people say hitting is broken?

I'm still playing 18, and probably will just stick with it through this year. To me, I think the hitting is the best it's been in several years. I play on all default, and get really realistic results from it. I haven't seen any issues with contact hitters struggling like a lot of people have talked about.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: Why do people say hitting is broken?

I'm still playing 18, and probably will just stick with it through this year. To me, I think the hitting is the best it's been in several years. I play on all default, and get really realistic results from it. I haven't seen any issues with contact hitters struggling like a lot of people have talked about.

Online DD players complain loudly about it. And rightfully so as hitting online sucks. Online gameplay in general sucks.

Offline the game is fantastic. Always has been.


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[matthewk]

Re: Why do people say hitting is broken?

Sounds like I'll be ok with '18 since I only play offline.

That PCI lock as soon as you start the swing still ruins zone hitting for me. I'll just have to deal with the swing influence design of directional.

[Vercingetirex]

Re: Why do people say hitting is broken?

With the right sliders in 18, I thought the hitting was quite good a varied. Yes there still was too many homers per game with power guys, and contact hitters certainly would have lower BA due to the fact they could hit the gaps as hard, but it was by no means broken. Hopefully, with the adjustments made to power hitters and contact hitters, these issues will be fixed.

[underdog13]

Re: Why do people say hitting is broken?

People who say that are talking about Online gameplay.

Online: Broken

Offline: Fine

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