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  • harryl
    MVP
    • Apr 2015
    • 2680

    #1

    Badging Thread

    Wanted to start a thread to discuss how to badge up players. Now that 2K has drastically constrained the badges that players come with, the open slots are now all the more precious and the decision of what badges to add all the more important.
  • harryl
    MVP
    • Apr 2015
    • 2680

    #2
    Re: Badging Thread

    I'll start off with...

    Player: Current Gold DeAndre Jordan
    Comes With: No Badges
    Open Slots: 3

    I'm hesitant to add anything valuable to pretty much any card I currently have, as it's so early in the game cycle. So I don't even really want to add expensive stuff like Deep-Range Deadeye to Current Steph Curry (though I might break down and do so).

    But there are quite a few very useful badges that are pretty cheap. And I was having a rough time with Domination games, and wanted to get a little extra edge.

    So with Domination in mind, I figured I don't need to worry about achieving balance all that much and to just play to strength. So I decided to just amp up DeAndre Jordan's offensive abilities...

    Added:

    1. Pick & Roller
    2. Lob City Finisher
    3. Posterizer

    The Posterizer is the only one that is quasi expensive. Pick & Roller and Lob City Finisher are pretty cheap, easily under 1000 MT (this is on PC).

    Other Options:

    If this were a higher-level Center card and I would use it long-term, I'd be concerned about buffing defense.

    A. Rim Protector: Obvious.
    B. Bruiser: Obvious, but kind of a luxury.
    C. Brick Wall: Obvious...maybe should have added this instead of Posterizer because DJ already is so highly rated for dunking, including Contact Dunk, and is constantly the screener/roll man.
    D. Relentless Finisher: Nice, but very much a luxury unless the card is heads-and-shoulders superior to what one could sub in for it.
    E. Post Spin Technician: Might consider this a must for a more skilled post offensive player. DJ has crap Post Control so I figured adding this would be like putting lipstick on a pig. Same deal with Drop-Stepper and Dream-Like Up and Under.
    F. Putback King: I think this is a luxury, given that one isn't getting that many offensive boards, usually, to begin with.
    G. Hustle Rebounder: Wonder how useful this is for a Center, versus a more mobile PF or SF.

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    • Foldzy
      MVP
      • Oct 2014
      • 1627

      #3
      Re: Badging Thread

      They all can be good. It all depends on playstyle and personel, I like a lot of the pic & roll + fast break stuff myself because that's how I play I love hustle rebounder and rim protector. The deadeye badges don't seem to proc much and I haven't tested out the alley oop ones. Rim protector, defensive stopper and pick pocket are my go-to defensive ones.

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      • harryl
        MVP
        • Apr 2015
        • 2680

        #4
        Re: Badging Thread

        The other guy I upgraded and added a badge to was my DeMarcus Cousins. Much more expensive, relative to DJ, but still not all that expensive so I'm not that concerned about "making a mistake." But still concerned enough about getting it right that I only upgraded his existing badge and added one, so far.

        Player: Current Emerald DeMarcus Cousins
        Comes With: Bronze Bruiser
        Open Slots: 3

        Again, a little hesitant to put really valuable badges on this guy. And, also, mainly see his utility to me as being part of my Domination/Challenge team.

        Added:

        1. Post-Spin Technician: felt like this was a must, since he's primarily a post offensive weapon to me and the post-spin is bread-and-butter.

        Other Options:

        I was thinking about just sticking with offensive upgrades and just cede out that Cousins is a bit of a defensive liability. Not necessarily because the offensive upgrades are more important than defensive, but because they're much cheaper and I doubt I'll be using Cousins in a couple months. But maybe I'm being too cheap and too dismissive of the impact of the defensive badges.

        A. Rim Protector: Before, Post LD was clearly counteracting Post-Scoring badges/enhancements. And Eraser counteracting Inside Scoring badges and creating the possibility of Energy buff for blocks. Now I don't really know what Rim Protector does, exactly. The description says...

        An elite shot-blocker who intimidates those around the rim, causing interior shots to be less effective.
        Maybe there is a buff to Shot Contest and Block and pertinent Def IQ Ratings? Also counteracting of corresponding badges? Maybe I should strongly consider adding this. If Cousins can be less of a detriment on D, it's much easier to justify how much of a beast he is in the paint on Offense, though there is still the sticky issue of how bad he is when drawn out in Pick'n'Rolls.

        B. Drop-Stepper: I was thinking about adding this. It's cheap and the Drop Step might be one of the most common post moves I use with Cousins. That, and Post Hook. Don't seem to do well with Post Fades with him, though his is pretty good. But maybe it's a waste to use a badge just for a single type of shot, when there is much more in the post move arsenal.

        C. Dream-Like Up and Under: Was thinking about this because cheap and offensive, again, but maybe even less useful than Drop-Stepper. I feel like...if one gets the defender off his feet and times the Up and Under correctly to get to the basket without heavy contact, one has very high % chance of making the shot, without any badge buffing. But maybe this badge makes it still a very effective move, even if one is making it through hard contact? I.e. times the move late and is trying to go "through" the defender? If so, then it's maybe worth it.

        D. And then all the other stuff mentioned above, w/r/t DeAndre.

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        • kabamaru
          MVP
          • Nov 2013
          • 2485

          #5
          Re: Badging Thread

          Nice thread!

          of course all the above have to do with plastyle. Example I don't lob so I wouldn't put lob finisher.
          Current players are too low in ratings. It is my feeling that in 2 months these cards will be unusable so I don't badge them excessively as it will hit my Mt.

          Having said that since I use a lot of pnr my Curry, Harden and LBJ have pick n roll maestro and DeAndre and Towns have pick roller.

          My only other added badges are corner specialist in harden ( I bought him with it) and I added rebounder in Towns


          For me pick dodger is very important for a pg, even if is usually overlooked and is very cheap. I will upgrade my Curry with a gold pick dodger

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          • harryl
            MVP
            • Apr 2015
            • 2680

            #6
            Re: Badging Thread

            Originally posted by kabamaru
            Current players are too low in ratings. It is my feeling that in 2 months these cards will be unusable so I don't badge them excessively as it will hit my Mt.
            That's how I feel too. But the fact that the Current players have looming obsolescence also decreases the pressure to badge them "right."

            So, for example, if one feels firm about not adding valuable badges, then, with a Curry, there's no pressure to add the "necessary" long distance shooting badges that are also the most expensive.

            So, then, adding Pick Dodger is easy to justify, in terms of slot and price. And, I agree, it's a badge I consider to be a must for a perimeter player...except, this year, "must" becomes much harder to determine.

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            • Foldzy
              MVP
              • Oct 2014
              • 1627

              #7
              Re: Badging Thread

              I wish you could badge over unwanted badges, I get not being able to remove them and get the badge back, but if you accidentally put the wrong badge on a card it becomes ruined and some cards you cant get another one of

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              • Torty84
                Rookie
                • Nov 2015
                • 36

                #8
                Re: Badging Thread

                Steve Francis
                ----------------

                Added badges so far:

                1) Tireless Scorer

                Stamina is a big thing this 2k. He is a powerhouse for me. Many blow by action and dunking attempts - he needs more energy for that

                2) Relentless Finisher

                He is a good shooter but his strengths are attacking the rim

                3) PnR Maestro

                Every PG needs this

                4) Dimer

                Every PG needs this

                5) Defensive Stopper

                He is already a great defender but this badge will always find a place in my slots

                6) One open slot

                With a 85 open shot 3 Catch and Shoot might be a good badge...

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                • benuetzer
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2016
                  • 152

                  #9
                  Re: Badging Thread

                  IMHO, every perimeter player, who is able to defend at least a bit, needs pick dodger as well. On the others... I agree.

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                  • harryl
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 2680

                    #10
                    Re: Badging Thread

                    Originally posted by Torty84
                    Steve Francis
                    1) Tireless Scorer
                    Stamina is a big thing this 2k. He is a powerhouse for me. Many blow by action and dunking attempts - he needs more energy for that
                    The way I read the Tireless Scorer description, it's not about getting more energy or losing less energy, but: if a player has this, their fatigue will affect their attempts to score less. My guess is that it will lessen the hits to the shooting Ratings due to lowered Energy levels.

                    Still about Energy and Stamina and fatigue, but people should keep in mind how this specifically works.

                    2) Relentless Finisher
                    He is a good shooter but his strengths are attacking the rim
                    My reading on this Badge is that contact finishes take away less Energy if someone has this Badge. Other people swear that it also increases the make rate of such finishes. I don't know, myself, but that is nowhere in the Badge's description.

                    3) PnR Maestro
                    Every PG needs this
                    4) Dimer
                    Every PG needs this
                    Definitely all "must haves" without question.

                    5) Defensive Stopper
                    He is already a great defender but this badge will always find a place in my slots
                    Last year, I considered Perimeter LD to be a must for all wing players. This year, it's harder to consider a must because limited slots means making hard decisions. But, it seems the scope of the badge is expanded, so it's actually even more important now.

                    6) One open slot
                    With a 85 open shot 3 Catch and Shoot might be a good badge...
                    Given that he's your PG and presumably your main ballhandler, then Catch & Shoot may not be way high on my list.

                    What does he come with? I would consider Deep Range Deadeye and Limitless Range to be more useful. For Francis, Posterizer may be nice. As Benuetzer, Pick Dodger is a big deal for a perimeter defender. Also Ankle Breaker. Also Difficult Shots...One Man Fast Break...

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                    • Foldzy
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 1627

                      #11
                      Re: Badging Thread

                      I'm hating that I didn't put P&R maestro and dimer on my Lou Hudson, even flashy passer would have been better! I know it won't matter in a couple of weeks once I replace him but it's driving me crazy right now!

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                      • harryl
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 2680

                        #12
                        Re: Badging Thread

                        Originally posted by Foldzy
                        I'm hating that I didn't put P&R maestro and dimer on my Lou Hudson, even flashy passer would have been better! I know it won't matter in a couple of weeks once I replace him but it's driving me crazy right now!
                        What did you put on him? I wouldn't worry so much. Don't think that P&R Maestro on him is all that big of a deal, because of his not-good Ball Control.

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                        • kabamaru
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 2485

                          #13
                          Re: Badging Thread

                          Lebron James
                          I have
                          1) PnR Maesto
                          2) Relentless finisher
                          3) Tireless scorer
                          4) Acrobat
                          5) One man fast break

                          And I have one badge open

                          I am between Dimer and Posterizer.

                          What would you put? I run many offenses through him

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                          • Foldzy
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 1627

                            #14
                            Re: Badging Thread

                            Originally posted by harryl
                            What did you put on him? I wouldn't worry so much. Don't think that P&R Maestro on him is all that big of a deal, because of his not-good Ball Control.
                            I'm regretting giving him limitless range and one man break. I always find myself wishing he had PnR Maestro and either dimer or flashy passer instead. He is a pretty good 3pt shooter, but he never hits the long ones!

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                            • harryl
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 2680

                              #15
                              Re: Badging Thread

                              Originally posted by Foldzy
                              I'm regretting giving him limitless range and one man break. I always find myself wishing he had PnR Maestro and either dimer or flashy passer instead. He is a pretty good 3pt shooter, but he never hits the long ones!
                              Someone made the argument, with 2K16, that Limitless seems to have positive impact even upon non-long threes.

                              Out of PnR Maestro, Dimer, and Flashy Passer, the one I would consider the most "essential" is Dimer. Everyone passes and it's a big deal to have passes hit the receiver in their pocket. Then PnR Maestro.

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