Badging Thread

[harryl]

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Any thoughts on equipping the Shawn Marion reward card with rim protector? I want to make him my defensive stopper, but plan on playing him at the 3 not the 4, so not sure how useful that badge would be.

See that link to the thread in the main forum I posted.

But my belief is that Rim Protector is for guarding post-up shots. If so, and you play Marion at the 3, he's mostly not going to face post-ups. No matter what, it's less important than Defensive Stopper.

There's a pretty short list of guards and wings who have effective post-up game. And even those who do tend to not be overwhelmingly money in the way that a Dirk is.

[Bubba13laze]

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The thing is, I have no idea if difficult shots activates on post fades. I imagine is replaced previous years shot creator, which was meant for dribble pull ups and step backs. However, they also don't have a fade ace badge this year. It is possible that difficult shots also incorporates fade ace, which would activate for post fades.

In terms of badges and prices, and future tmacs. Last year I used Rockets Tmac for pretty much the entire year, even with all diamonds I still couldnt take that gold out of my lineup, he was so good. This emerald Tmac feels pretty similar to the Rockets version, only, more athletic. Also, I have a stock pile of badges from pack openings and rewards. I haven't put badges on any players yet this year, been saving them. Just starting to badge up my Hibbert, Bosh, Marion, and Tmac as my first cards this year im upgrading. So I don't have to purchase any in the auctions, I have 2-3+ of every type.

Also, I agree with you, perhaps it's best to avoid energy related badges like relentless finisher. The thing about tireless scorer though, is I am not worried about using it to save energy. It is moreso if I do a crossover and turbo to the basket, the drain of my energy doesn't make me more likely to miss. Especially with how fast that temporary stamina drains this year, I am wondering if tireless scorer in fact is a really powerful badge.

Oh also @Billie, definitely if you are using Marion as a pure defensive stopper, I think it's best to have both defensive stopper and rim protector. He can cover any position so even if the opposing 3 isn't going into the post, you may want to swap your Marion onto somebody else who is. Equipping him with all the defensive badges, you can plug him to defend anybody on the other team causing to trouble, at any position.

I think I am going to try tireless scorer on Tmac. After turboing up the floor on a fast break, or doing some dribble moves and driving to the basket, having the shot attempt less impacted by low energy seems very appealing.

[billiethetree]

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The thing is, I have no idea if difficult shots activates on post fades. I imagine is replaced previous years shot creator, which was meant for dribble pull ups and step backs. However, they also don't have a fade ace badge this year. It is possible that difficult shots also incorporates fade ace, which would activate for post fades.

In terms of badges and prices, and future tmacs. Last year I used Rockets Tmac for pretty much the entire year, even with all diamonds I still couldnt take that gold out of my lineup, he was so good. This emerald Tmac feels pretty similar to the Rockets version, only, more athletic. Also, I have a stock pile of badges from pack openings and rewards. I haven't put badges on any players yet this year, been saving them. Just starting to badge up my Hibbert, Bosh, Marion, and Tmac as my first cards this year im upgrading. So I don't have to purchase any in the auctions, I have 2-3+ of every type.

Also, I agree with you, perhaps it's best to avoid energy related badges like relentless finisher. The thing about tireless scorer though, is I am not worried about using it to save energy. It is moreso if I do a crossover and turbo to the basket, the drain of my energy doesn't make me more likely to miss. Especially with how fast that temporary stamina drains this year, I am wondering if tireless scorer in fact is a really powerful badge.

Oh also @Billie, definitely if you are using Marion as a pure defensive stopper, I think it's best to have both defensive stopper and rim protector. He can cover any position so even if the opposing 3 isn't going into the post, you may want to swap your Marion onto somebody else who is. Equipping him with all the defensive badges, you can plug him to defend anybody on the other team causing to trouble, at any position.

I think I am going to try tireless scorer on Tmac. After turboing up the floor on a fast break, or doing some dribble moves and driving to the basket, having the shot attempt less impacted by low energy seems very appealing.

Yeah that's what I was thinking, I'm just wondering if anyone has experience using rim protector on a player who's not around 7 ft. I'm also considering using it for my emereld Draymond to make him play more like his real life self because his interior D is really underrated I feel.


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[Bubba13laze]

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Yeah that's what I was thinking, I'm just wondering if anyone has experience using rim protector on a player who's not around 7 ft. I'm also considering using it for my emereld Draymond to make him play more like his real life self because his interior D is really underrated I feel.


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This is how I badged up my Marion and I am very happy with him.

Stock:
Corner Specialist
Lob City Finisher
Posterizer
Tear Dropper

Added:
Catch & Shoot
Hustle Rebounder
Defender Stopper
Rim Protector
Chase Down Artist
Pick Dodger

The toss up was between Pick Dodger / Chase Down Artist and One Man Fastbreak / Bruiser. I wanted my Marion to be a pure defensive guy, that I could bring into the game and straight lock down whoever he is covering. I Although he is starting for me right now, down the road I imagine him as a defensive specialist on the end of my bench for specific situations. Because I added Catch and Shoot to him, I opted to go with all defensive badges after that. So far his defense is phenomenal. He is stopping everyone. Also, his catch and shoot 3 ball is money, and he is doing quite well in transition and finishing at the basket although I didn't add any athleticism badges or finishing badges. Also, if you're wondering why I didn't add pick pocket, it's because I only really find that badge valuable for me on my point guard.

[Foldzy]

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Andrea Bargnani has quickly become my favourite bench player. You can play him at 3, 4 or 5 and if you're wise you can create some pretty favourable mismatches. He's a good post player at the three, he can be a serviceable stretch 4 and he's a great pick and pop 5 if you wanna draw out the shot blocker.

He comes with catch and shoot and pick and popper, I just used some badges I had laying around on him and he ended up with post spin and drop step, mid and long range deadeye and limitless range. I couldn't be happier with him, I've gone from getting blown out all the time to blowing people out since I did the Raptors collection.

Antonio Davis is a beast too I gave him bruiser, brick wall, putback king and break starter so far to go with his hustle rebounder and rim protector badges he still has 1 open slot I'm thinking Pick + Roller.

I heard someone knocking putback king earlier because it doesn't proc all that often, but when it does it's usually 2 points instead of a turnover, I consider it a must for any inside rebounder it's very frustrating not being able to go back up for an easy bucket or getting blocked because you don't have this badge.

[QNo]

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Gold DeAndre:
- Rim Protector (to maximise his ability as an amazing defender)
- Posterizer (this triggers a ton)
For the last spot, I'm probably either going for Lob City Finisher, or Pick and Roller. Omitting Defensive stopper because it's too expensive, and it's not 100% obvious you want it on him.

Emerald Boogie
Comes with: Bruiser
- Post Spin Technician (very strong badge, just like last year)
- other candidates: Posterizer, Hustle Rebounder (probably wasted with this few slots), Def Stopper (too expensive), Rim Protector (wasted on a slow-footed guy?). Drop-Stepper, Dream-Like Up-and Under (both useful). I'll probably slap Posterizer and Drop-Stepper on him, I mainly use him in the post and pair him with a 4 that has some defensive abilities.

Amethyst Shawn Marion
Comes with: Corner Specialist, Tear Dropper, Posterizer, Lob-City Finisher
- No-Brainers: Def Stopper, Pick Dodger, Pick Pocket, Catch & Shoot
- Run him at the 4? - Rim Protector, Hustle Rebounder
- Bruiser: This used to trigger better defensive animations. If it still does in 2k17, might be a no-brainer, too.
- You have some room for experimentation with this card. He comes with 2 of the must-have badges for him (Corner Specialist, Posterizer), and after applying the other 3, you can build him into what you want him to be. I'm considering Bruiser and Hustle Rebounder, running him at the 3 primarily. Depp-Range Deadeye seems great, also. If Rim Protector functions similarly to Eraser in previous 2ks, it might be a no-brainer, too.

Sapphire Derek Harper
Comes with: Corner Specialist, Dimer
- No-brainers: Def. Stopper, Pick Dodger, PnR Maestro, Pick Pocket
- For the last 2 slots, the most obvious candidates are Acrobat, Ankle Breaker, Break Starter, Lob City Passer, Shooting Badges. I don't really want to make him a primary scorer.

Sapphire Josh Smith
Comes with: Defensive Stopper, Chase-Down Artist
- No-Brainers: Corner Specialist (if you're running a 4-1 scheme), Hustle Rebounder, Posterizer
- Rim Protector is likely a great choice as well. Many options for the last slot: PnR/PnF if that's how you use him, Catch & Shoot if he stands in the Corner most of the time, extra finishing badges, Break Starter, ...

[great1zero]

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Diamond Chris Bosh

Comes equipped with: Mid-Range Deadeye, Pick & Popper, Tireless Scorer, Catch & Shoot

So far I have added Defensive Stopper, Hustle Rebounder and Post-Spin Technician

I have empty 3 slots left, I am considering Corner Specialist, Deep Range Deadeye, Relentless Finisher, Posterizer and Rim Protector.

[Biaxident]

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Ruby Kevin Willis:
Drop-Stepper (Pre-set)
Dream-like Up and Under (Pre-set)
Hustle Rebounder (Pre-set)
Post Spin Technician
Acrobat
Posterizer
Brick Wall

Alternatives: Rim Protector, Defensive Stopper, Bruiser, Pick and Roller/Popper, Bruiser, Break Starter

One of my favorite cards, great addition to any front court rotation. Dominates PFs in the post and though he's lacking some strength his size and great rebounding lets him play center. I've added no shooting badges to him and yet I shoot open 3s and deep 2s with a lot of confidence.

[Foldzy]

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Diamond Chris Bosh

Comes equipped with: Mid-Range Deadeye, Pick & Popper, Tireless Scorer, Catch & Shoot

So far I have added Defensive Stopper, Hustle Rebounder and Post-Spin Technician

I have empty 3 slots left, I am considering Corner Specialist, Deep Range Deadeye, Relentless Finisher, Posterizer and Rim Protector.

I'd say deep range deadeye is a must. I always have people running at him when he's shooting 3's

[harryl]

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Ruby Kevin Willis:
Drop-Stepper (Pre-set)
Dream-like Up and Under (Pre-set)
Hustle Rebounder (Pre-set)
Post Spin Technician
Acrobat
Posterizer
Brick Wall

Alternatives: Rim Protector, Defensive Stopper, Bruiser, Pick and Roller/Popper, Bruiser, Break Starter

I think Rim Protector is mandatory, unless you really want to just give up on diminishing his defensive liabilities. Post Spin Tech, if you want to post up with him, is probably mandatory as well, and he has 88 Post Control and 92 Post Hook, so it's worthwhile to buff his post offense.

Defensive Stopper, depending on exactly how it works, against whom, and where on the court, with what shots, might be mandatory as well.

Posterizer is very compelling, given his 95 Standing Dunk.

If Acrobat buffs all layups, not just mid-air changed ones, then that would be a big deal for his scoring.

But I might put on Drop-Stepper before that if you use that move a lot and are already fairly successful at it with him.

Bruiser of course is nice but I just don't picture anyone using him as a starter for a long time. So, eventually, with limited minutes, it's not going to make a dramatic impact on his matchup.

Brick Wall normally would be mandatory with him but he doesn't seem so great to be running the P'n'R with, as a roll man, due to his slowness and meh Driving Dunk.

And PnPopper...if it works for you, fine, but I don't think his shooting stats are high enough to be trying to get him those shots more than a couple times in a game, just to mix it up a little.

[harryl]

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Gold DeAndre:
- Rim Protector (to maximise his ability as an amazing defender)
- Posterizer (this triggers a ton)
For the last spot, I'm probably either going for Lob City Finisher, or Pick and Roller. Omitting Defensive stopper because it's too expensive, and it's not 100% obvious you want it on him.

I think I told you, but I went with Lob City Finisher, Posterizer, and Pick'n'Roller. Just decided to totally outfit him as a P&R threat, particularly in conjunction with CP3 with Lob City Passer.

But obviously Rim Protector makes a lot of sense. I just decided that's already his strength and he's already great in that regard...I just want to try to get a few more points out of him.

Emerald Boogie
Comes with: Bruiser
- Post Spin Technician (very strong badge, just like last year)
- other candidates: Posterizer, Hustle Rebounder (probably wasted with this few slots), Def Stopper (too expensive), Rim Protector (wasted on a slow-footed guy?). Drop-Stepper, Dream-Like Up-and Under (both useful). I'll probably slap Posterizer and Drop-Stepper on him, I mainly use him in the post and pair him with a 4 that has some defensive abilities.

I put Post Spin Tech and Drop-Stepper on him immediately. I think I also added Rim Protector. And with the last badge...I think I'll go with Dream-Like just to maximize his ability with finesse post moves, as that's the main reason why I have him in, when he's in.

Amethyst Shawn Marion
Comes with: Corner Specialist, Tear Dropper, Posterizer, Lob-City Finisher
- No-Brainers: Def Stopper, Pick Dodger, Pick Pocket, Catch & Shoot
- Run him at the 4? - Rim Protector, Hustle Rebounder
- Bruiser: This used to trigger better defensive animations. If it still does in 2k17, might be a no-brainer, too.
- You have some room for experimentation with this card. He comes with 2 of the must-have badges for him (Corner Specialist, Posterizer), and after applying the other 3, you can build him into what you want him to be. I'm considering Bruiser and Hustle Rebounder, running him at the 3 primarily. Depp-Range Deadeye seems great, also. If Rim Protector functions similarly to Eraser in previous 2ks, it might be a no-brainer, too.

Think I mostly agree with you on him, at least the mandatory. His long-term utility in the game, if there is one, is as a versatile defensive stopper who can still contribute on offense. So I agree with your No-Brainers, including Catch&Shoot, as that's the way he's mainly going to be useful on Offense (aside from fast breaks and opportunistic cuts).

I don't really like the idea of Deep-Range Deadeye, but only because I feel like his release point is so low that, if there is a contest on him, it's liable to be a block. But this is just my knee-jerk thought, not necessarily experience.

One Man Fast Break can make sense too. I feel like he ends up with the ball in his hands after long rebounds a couple/few times a game. For same reason, Hustle Rebounder makes sense.

Sapphire Josh Smith
Comes with: Defensive Stopper, Chase-Down Artist
- No-Brainers: Corner Specialist (if you're running a 4-1 scheme), Hustle Rebounder, Posterizer
- Rim Protector is likely a great choice as well. Many options for the last slot: PnR/PnF if that's how you use him, Catch & Shoot if he stands in the Corner most of the time, extra finishing badges, Break Starter, ...

[/QUOTE]

I think Corner Specialist and Catch & Shoot would be my mandatories, given that he'd be playing at 4 and would, many times, be passed the ball while open in a corner.

Then I think probably Rim Protector, for defending against Post-Up PF's.

[harryl]

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I heard someone knocking putback king earlier because it doesn't proc all that often, but when it does it's usually 2 points instead of a turnover, I consider it a must for any inside rebounder it's very frustrating not being able to go back up for an easy bucket or getting blocked because you don't have this badge.

That was me and I'm not sure. I probably should slap it on some Gold and see if it activates enough and has enough of an impact to make sense.

But, generally speaking, I feel like, if the putback shot is a good opportunity, they don't need the badge. If it's not a good opportunity, I don't really want to take that shot, even with the badge. Would rather repost or reset by passing out and starting fresh.

[billiethetree]

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Amethyst Shawn Marion
Comes with: Corner Specialist, Tear Dropper, Posterizer, Lob-City Finisher
- No-Brainers: Def Stopper, Pick Dodger, Pick Pocket, Catch & Shoot
- Run him at the 4? - Rim Protector, Hustle Rebounder
- Bruiser: This used to trigger better defensive animations. If it still does in 2k17, might be a no-brainer, too.
- You have some room for experimentation with this card. He comes with 2 of the must-have badges for him (Corner Specialist, Posterizer), and after applying the other 3, you can build him into what you want him to be. I'm considering Bruiser and Hustle Rebounder, running him at the 3 primarily. Depp-Range Deadeye seems great, also. If Rim Protector functions similarly to Eraser in previous 2ks, it might be a no-brainer.

Has anyone finished badging up the Matrix and played with him? I have him badged with the no brainers listed above, plus Hustle Rebounder leaving me with 1 open alot. I play him at the 3, so I'm not sure about rim protector. Anyone have luck with getting badges to activate with him from those not listed above? Most likely want to go defense, but the rest of the defensive cards seem kinda meh

[Biaxident]

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Has anyone finished badging up the Matrix and played with him? I have him badged with the no brainers listed above, plus Hustle Rebounder leaving me with 1 open alot. I play him at the 3, so I'm not sure about rim protector. Anyone have luck with getting badges to activate with him from those not listed above? Most likely want to go defense, but the rest of the defensive cards seem kinda meh

I strongly recommend Post Spin Technician. I play him at SF as well and he will get an open drive to the basket 99% of the time. A great way to make him more relevant in half court offense.

[P234thetruth]

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Any suggestions for Horry and Steve Francis?