Is help defense good this year? Are individual instructions working?

[frank70]

Are there realistic rotations, switches, drop down defense in pick-and-rolls, etc.?

And are the individuell instructions in the coaching menu working (sag off, leave alone, pressure, etc.)?

[GisherJohn24]

Re: Is help defense good this year? Are individual instructions working?

Are there realistic rotations, switches, drop down defense in pick-and-rolls, etc.?

And are the individuell instructions in the coaching menu working (sag off, leave alone, pressure, etc.)?

I think the AI is good on all the things you mentioned. Teammates seem logically sound imo …But the on the fly defense adjustments of those things are normally easily done by pressing right on the D pad. But it was not working since launch on all versions. You can’t even see it. To change defense settings you have to do it during a time out or press pause to D. gameplan.


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[alabamarob]

Re: Is help defense good this year? Are individual instructions working?

Are there realistic rotations, switches, drop down defense in pick-and-rolls, etc.?

And are the individuell instructions in the coaching menu working (sag off, leave alone, pressure, etc.)?

Most settings are working this year

[Nathan_OS]

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Most settings are working this year

Really? I’ve been hesitant making adjustments even though CPU P&R is killing me this year.


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[goma76]

Re: Is help defense good this year? Are individual instructions working?

Really? I’ve been hesitant making adjustments even though CPU P&R is killing me this year.


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P&R defense needs adjustment by the user. The defender cannot try to go throw the screen every time, leaving an easy open three.
Try switch, hard edge or similar to avoid this.

[alabamarob]

Re: Is help defense good this year? Are individual instructions working?

Really? I’ve been hesitant making adjustments even though CPU P&R is killing me this year.


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The key to help defense and pnr defense is the stay attached option for each player.for the first time ever you can pick who will leave there assignment.

I can leave help defense on 50 and still get a lot of help and rotations. Stay attached is what unlocks the entire defense

[Fake Empire]

Re: Is help defense good this year? Are individual instructions working?

The key to help defense and pnr defense is the stay attached option for each player.for the first time ever you can pick who will leave there assignment.

I can leave help defense on 50 and still get a lot of help and rotations. Stay attached is what unlocks the entire defense

This exactly. Even without the stay attached option you can shake off PNRs by using basketball logic if you choose to manually defend them. I think PNRs are quite balanced this year, AI definitely adapts when you're trying to overuse them. Ofc as irl there are instances PNRs are successful and that's fine, you can't defend everything. Fyi PNRs are still the main play in european basketball and 80%+ of the offense is based on variations of it.

[EccentricMeat]

Re: Is help defense good this year? Are individual instructions working?

The key to help defense and pnr defense is the stay attached option for each player.for the first time ever you can pick who will leave there assignment.

I can leave help defense on 50 and still get a lot of help and rotations. Stay attached is what unlocks the entire defense

Thanks for drawing my attention to this. I tend to ignore the Defense Settings entirely (probably because they usually don't work...) but since they are working this year, this is a total gamechanger.

Using "Stay Attached" on the two best shooters alleviates most of the help defense issues as far as elite shooters being left open, and using Hard Hedge on elite shooters helps open up the game a lot more in the PnR and lead to more assists and scramble situations rather than star players forcing up shots too often.

[jk31]

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could you guys explain how you incorporate stay attached in your gameplan?


as far as i understand if you Set someone to stay attached, instead it switching to the Ballhandler in a Pick and roll they stay attached to the screener? So this makes sense if the screener is a threat himself eithe because be is a Good shooter in the Pick and Pop or He is Good at rolling to the basket?

Dont quite understand yet how this fuels my defense?

[EccentricMeat]

Re: Is help defense good this year? Are individual instructions working?

could you guys explain how you incorporate stay attached in your gameplan?


as far as i understand if you Set someone to stay attached, instead it switching to the Ballhandler in a Pick and roll they stay attached to the screener? So this makes sense if the screener is a threat himself eithe because be is a Good shooter in the Pick and Pop or He is Good at rolling to the basket?

Dont quite understand yet how this fuels my defense?

Stay Attached just does as it says in game: "This setting controls when defenders leave their matchup to hedge screens or play help defense". So if you are playing against the Warriors and tell Curry's defender to always stay attached, his on-ball defender will never leave him to hedge a screen or to play help defense. Likewise if you play against the T-wolves and set Rudy Goebert's defender to NEVER stay attached, that defender will always hedge screens set by Rudy and will regularly shift down to play help defense and leave Rudy open. And if you set a defender to stay attached only on screens, that defender will join in on help defense but will stay attached when his assignment is the screener (meaning the PnR ball handler will have an open shot or an open lane if the on-ball defender can't get past the screen quickly).

So in short, you want defenders to stay attached to elite perimeter shooters, and you don't want defenders to stay attached to average/poor perimeter shooters. It's just a way to tell your AI teammates who should stay on their assignment and who should rotate when help is needed.

[alabamarob]

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Thanks for drawing my attention to this. I tend to ignore the Defense Settings entirely (probably because they usually don't work...) but since they are working this year, this is a total gamechanger.

Using "Stay Attached" on the two best shooters alleviates most of the help defense issues as far as elite shooters being left open, and using Hard Hedge on elite shooters helps open up the game a lot more in the PnR and lead to more assists and scramble situations rather than star players forcing up shots too often.

This is the first time i remember 2k having a stay attached for help defense. Gamechanger indeed. This is probably Czar's doing

[EccentricMeat]

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This is the first time i remember 2k having a stay attached for help defense. Gamechanger indeed. This is probably Czar's doing

Yea I can't remember if there was a separate setting for it before, or if it was tied in with the off-ball pressure settings (Smother, Deny Ball, Leave, etc.). Probably the latter, but it's nice to have it either way! Now hopefull Czar can get the Dpad quick defensive settings menu working.

[jk31]

Re: Is help defense good this year? Are individual instructions working?

Stay Attached just does as it says in game: "This setting controls when defenders leave their matchup to hedge screens or play help defense". So if you are playing against the Warriors and tell Curry's defender to always stay attached, his on-ball defender will never leave him to hedge a screen or to play help defense. Likewise if you play against the T-wolves and set Rudy Goebert's defender to NEVER stay attached, that defender will always hedge screens set by Rudy and will regularly shift down to play help defense and leave Rudy open. And if you set a defender to stay attached only on screens, that defender will join in on help defense but will stay attached when his assignment is the screener (meaning the PnR ball handler will have an open shot or an open lane if the on-ball defender can't get past the screen quickly).

So in short, you want defenders to stay attached to elite perimeter shooters, and you don't want defenders to stay attached to average/poor perimeter shooters. It's just a way to tell your AI teammates who should stay on their assignment and who should rotate when help is needed.

ah wow, thanks for claryfying. that indeed sounds like a gamechanger!

what you describe is what i thought to be done with the offball defense settings. so leave him for always helping and deny for never helping. need to play around with that, but sounds very promising.
should be possible to enforce some kind of primary help defender thing by setting everyone to never leave their man except my rim protector who never should stay attached.

so you can set stay attached to always, always on screens and never (and auto), correct? but there is no way to do a lets say "always on help but never on screens" kind of thing? if you want to switch guard/guard screens for example but dont want this man to play help side.

[Smirkin Dirk]

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Most settings are working this year

Rob. Is it true? Can it be true? After 10 years, is the day finally here?

[jk31]

Re: Is help defense good this year? Are individual instructions working?

Rob. Is it true? Can it be true? After 10 years, is the day finally here?

well i think we had it in some recent years that most stuffed worked out of the box but then after the first patches lost their functionality.