Comeback code is a joke - Operation Sports Forums

Comeback code is a joke

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Cowboyfan_19
    Pro
    • Jan 2015
    • 733

    #16
    Re: Comeback code is a joke

    Originally posted by KyotoCarl
    These "comeback code" threads are a joke.
    Show us evidence of this code instead of making these stupid threads.
    Why should these threads stop? I'm not saying there's a "comeback code", but there's definitely artificial momentum in this game that tries to trigger when one team goes up by 8-12 points.

    Most of the people complaining have been playing 2k for years & this isn't new to them. I personally began noticing the phony momentum system in 2k14. You're better off spotting your opponent a 10 pt. lead to start the game because if you dominate too early, 2k punishes you by giving the other team fake momentum that potentially allows them back in the game if they're a decent enough player.

    Or are we just supposed to forcefully accept that it's "realistic" and that "basketball is a game of runs"?

    And to those people saying that we're "laying off the gas".........No, quite the opposite. I play harder once I'm in the lead because I want to destroy my opponent by 20 every game.

    Comment

    • coolcras7
      MVP
      • Sep 2009
      • 2338

      #17
      Re: Comeback code is a joke

      Originally posted by Cowboyfan_19
      Why should these threads stop? I'm not saying there's a "comeback code", but there's definitely artificial momentum in this game that tries to trigger when one team goes up by 8-12 points.

      Most of the people complaining have been playing 2k for years & this isn't new to them. I personally began noticing the phony momentum system in 2k14. You're better off spotting your opponent a 10 pt. lead to start the game because if you dominate too early, 2k punishes you by giving the other team fake momentum that potentially allows them back in the game if they're a decent enough player.

      Or are we just supposed to forcefully accept that it's "realistic" and that "basketball is a game of runs"?

      And to those people saying that we're "laying off the gas".........No, quite the opposite. I play harder once I'm in the lead because I want to destroy my opponent by 20 every game.
      So you decided to ignore all the responses even the video from DaCzar who works for 2k saying there is none.
      PSN=Coolcas7

      Comment

      • Cowboyfan_19
        Pro
        • Jan 2015
        • 733

        #18
        Re: Comeback code is a joke

        Originally posted by coolcras7
        So you decided to ignore all the responses even the video from DaCzar who works for 2k saying there is none.
        I heard it and maybe he's right about the adjustments. I won't deny that. I'm fine with having to change my offense up.

        But on the flip side of the spectrum, there's one thing I still refuse to believe.....is seeing sub 80 rated three point shooters conveniently gain the ability to shoot lights out from beyond the arc just before the game gets out of reach.

        Make of it what you will, but a user who was playing as the '11 Bulls was down 16-8 to my '03 Mavs and went 4-5 from three with rose & 1-1 from three with Boozer.

        Sure enough, after he went up 5 in the 4th, his players went back to normal and he couldn't hit another three with rose the rest of the qtr. I'm fine getting destroyed by Rose drilling mid ranges, layups, even and 1's, but I will not accept getting killed by three pointers off the dribble from him with hands in his face, especially when I'm about to blow the door off the game early.

        Comment

        • mfdoom911e
          Pro
          • Nov 2017
          • 564

          #19
          Re: Comeback code is a joke

          Originally posted by Cowboyfan_19
          Why should these threads stop? I'm not saying there's a "comeback code", but there's definitely artificial momentum in this game that tries to trigger when one team goes up by 8-12 points.

          Most of the people complaining have been playing 2k for years & this isn't new to them. I personally began noticing the phony momentum system in 2k14. You're better off spotting your opponent a 10 pt. lead to start the game because if you dominate too early, 2k punishes you by giving the other team fake momentum that potentially allows them back in the game if they're a decent enough player.

          Or are we just supposed to forcefully accept that it's "realistic" and that "basketball is a game of runs"?

          And to those people saying that we're "laying off the gas".........No, quite the opposite. I play harder once I'm in the lead because I want to destroy my opponent by 20 every game.
          i assumed you really not a fan of basketball in general as this things happen most of the time in real life. somebody get hot and somebody got cold vice versa and even non shooters become like curry all of a sudden. even a video from the devs explaining it. this game is also about strategy and tactics. its really how you play the game.

          Comment

          • awg811
            Pro
            • Jul 2009
            • 777

            #20
            Re: Comeback code is a joke

            Just because someone that works at 2k says something, doesn't make it true.
            One example of thousands, over dribbling. 2k said that people that over dribble will lose stamina at a large rate and their ball handling and shooting would suffer.
            This IS NOT the case!

            Sent from my 831C using Operation Sports mobile app

            Comment

            • The 24th Letter
              ERA
              • Oct 2007
              • 39438

              #21
              Re: Comeback code is a joke

              I'll put more stock into what a developer says than someone who has no experience with the inner workings of the game...regardless of if they've been "playing since Dramcast" or not...

              One thing thats constantly said on this subject is "I know its coming"....but it's NEVER captured....in the event that developers have no idea what they are talking about....why not provide evidence so they can address it?

              Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
              Last edited by The 24th Letter; 01-31-2018, 11:20 AM.

              Comment

              • ataman5
                MVP
                • Jun 2007
                • 2644

                #22
                Re: Comeback code is a joke

                Just to make my point and to be heard louder, there is no comeback code.

                The game as it's in real life is basketball and basketball is all about runs. Get creative, get your arsenal full of different stuff and surprise those either CPU's or players you play against every time down the floor. That's it or lower the difficulty and give yourself some time to develop over...

                Comment

                • LorenzoDC
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 1867

                  #23
                  Re: Comeback code is a joke

                  Originally posted by Cowboyfan_19
                  Why should these threads stop? I'm not saying there's a "comeback code", but there's definitely artificial momentum in this game that tries to trigger when one team goes up by 8-12 points.

                  Most of the people complaining have been playing 2k for years & this isn't new to them. I personally began noticing the phony momentum system in 2k14. You're better off spotting your opponent a 10 pt. lead to start the game because if you dominate too early, 2k punishes you by giving the other team fake momentum that potentially allows them back in the game if they're a decent enough player.

                  Or are we just supposed to forcefully accept that it's "realistic" and that "basketball is a game of runs"?

                  And to those people saying that we're "laying off the gas".........No, quite the opposite. I play harder once I'm in the lead because I want to destroy my opponent by 20 every game.
                  I bolded a part that is false. What is happening is you are failing to make adjustments after the game has adjusted to your successful attack.

                  It's not about your stick skills but about your strategy.
                  Last edited by LorenzoDC; 01-29-2018, 12:04 PM.

                  Comment

                  • LorenzoDC
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 1867

                    #24
                    Re: Comeback code is a joke

                    Originally posted by Cowboyfan_19
                    I heard it and maybe he's right about the adjustments. I won't deny that. I'm fine with having to change my offense up.

                    But on the flip side of the spectrum, there's one thing I still refuse to believe.....is seeing sub 80 rated three point shooters conveniently gain the ability to shoot lights out from beyond the arc just before the game gets out of reach.

                    Make of it what you will, but a user who was playing as the '11 Bulls was down 16-8 to my '03 Mavs and went 4-5 from three with rose & 1-1 from three with Boozer.

                    Sure enough, after he went up 5 in the 4th, his players went back to normal and he couldn't hit another three with rose the rest of the qtr. I'm fine getting destroyed by Rose drilling mid ranges, layups, even and 1's, but I will not accept getting killed by three pointers off the dribble from him with hands in his face, especially when I'm about to blow the door off the game early.
                    I'm responding to the part I bolded.

                    Elsewhere in that video, or maybe in some other video Czar did the same day (he did maybe 4), he mentions that, while this does happn in the NBA, the game's "get hot" system may be a little too powerful for the shooting of these non-star players. He was talking about it as a potential tweak, or something for the people who manage that system to take a look at, not as any kind of major issue (and I agree). All of this assumes playing on SS or AS. HOF is cheese.

                    Another thing he mentioned that I did not know is that one way to help calm down your opponent players from getting hot is to beat them when they play defense. In the NBA, players who are getting sonned on defense can lose some of their offensive momentum, and that is in the game. So if your opposing SG is heating up, see if you can score on him with your own SG (assuming he is guarding your SG). That won't stop him from getting hot, but is can slow him down. I realized after he said it that I do this, but didnt realize that my play style had naturally evolved to limit opponent momentum, that this was built into the game. I just do it as a competitive, "oh no you do NOT want some of this!" thing.

                    Managing game momentum is a game within the game. It includes taking time outs but is also includes executing the right things at the right times to keep momentum on your side as much as possible and minimize the opponent's runs.
                    Last edited by LorenzoDC; 01-29-2018, 10:31 AM.

                    Comment

                    • jeebs9
                      Fear is the Unknown
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 47653

                      #25
                      Re: Comeback code is a joke

                      Originally posted by Cowboyfan_19
                      Why should these threads stop? I'm not saying there's a "comeback code", but there's definitely artificial momentum in this game that tries to trigger when one team goes up by 8-12 points.

                      Most of the people complaining have been playing 2k for years & this isn't new to them. I personally began noticing the phony momentum system in 2k14. You're better off spotting your opponent a 10 pt. lead to start the game because if you dominate too early, 2k punishes you by giving the other team fake momentum that potentially allows them back in the game if they're a decent enough player.

                      Or are we just supposed to forcefully accept that it's "realistic" and that "basketball is a game of runs"?

                      And to those people saying that we're "laying off the gas".........No, quite the opposite. I play harder once I'm in the lead because I want to destroy my opponent by 20 every game.
                      hahahahaha I can't anymore... I just can't.....

                      Originally posted by coolcras7
                      So you decided to ignore all the responses even the video from DaCzar who works for 2k saying there is none.
                      Yup....
                      Hands Down....Man Down - 2k9 memories
                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IHP_5GUBQo

                      Comment

                      • MDSavageBeast
                        Rookie
                        • Jun 2017
                        • 264

                        #26
                        Re: Comeback code is a joke

                        Back in college during the 2K11 years, I was considered the GOAT because no lead was safe with me. I had this saying where "GOATs make adjustments" and that's what I did to comeback every single time. Putting a started on the bench, reaching for the depths of the roster to see if I can find a spark. Changing defenses (back when the 1-3-1 zone was king). Pushing the pace, slowing the offense down.... Any real hooper know that momentum swings are part of the game and they happen. But a real hooper also knows how to be a student of the game. The game isn't cheating you, you're cheating yourself if you think you're supposed to win by 20 or 30 every game. That ain't even fun. The tight games are the most rewarding wins.

                        Stop complaining and get ya weight up.

                        Comment

                        • mikelow777
                          Rookie
                          • Jan 2016
                          • 31

                          #27
                          Re: Comeback code is a joke

                          Yes! No! Maybe?!

                          I made i quick test. Played "Play Now" Detroit vs Detroit, 8 min. on Pro and controlled only the C. At the start of the 4th (up by 16) i switched to SS and I changed for both:

                          -Pass accuracy, ball.sec and ball handling to 0
                          -body-up sens. to 100
                          (to test the ai turnovers)

                          I won the game 72-59, with 7 turnovers (2 by me), 0 steals and 1 FT in the 4th. The cpu with 0 turnovers, 3 steals and 5 FT in the same time. In NBA 2K16 with the pass accuracy to 0 the ai makes a lot more turnovers.

                          Next game...

                          Comment

                          • dramachild11
                            Pro
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 891

                            #28
                            Re: Comeback code is a joke

                            There is no cheat code, I'll give the benefit of the doubt and say that the people who create these threads do know basketball and actually watch it as more than just a casual observer but that's probably a stretch, it seems to me that this nonsense has more to do with how and to who these people are losing, 20 point leads in basketball are like 10 point leads in football which is to say that they mean next to nothing given that there is enough time on the clock... so rose had an outlier game making threes, these things happen and people really have to remember that there are 82 games in a year and to stop forgetting that this is a video game after all

                            Comment

                            • Foldzy
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 1628

                              #29
                              Re: Comeback code is a joke

                              There is definitely a comeback formula in my team, I can't speak for other modes

                              Comment

                              • mikelow777
                                Rookie
                                • Jan 2016
                                • 31

                                #30
                                Re: Comeback code is a joke

                                Wow. I have found how the comeback code works!!

                                Link

                                Comment

                                Working...