I'm no pro basketball player, but don't you need strength for paint defense/rebound?

[ImInThis]

What sense does it make for 6'7 power forwards to be weak as a child, yet play effective paint defense, box you out, and grab rebounds?

[DonWuan]

Re: I'm no pro basketball player, but don't you need strength for paint defense/rebou

Dennis Rodman?

You'll be surprised what outworking others can get you.

[tru11]

Re: I'm no pro basketball player, but don't you need strength for paint defense/rebou

Rodman was pretty strong.

Very physical player and certainly not the finesse type.


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[BlackLightning3]

Re: I'm no pro basketball player, but don't you need strength for paint defense/rebou

There are other things that matter besides strength. Agility, reaction time, anticipation, and positioning can determine who gets a rebound. I'm 6'2" and usually the most athletic, but weakest in terms of pure weightlifting strenght people on the court. Everytime I play I get the most rebounds by far, because I 'm not just standing under the goal trying to box out big men by pushing them. If they don't body me up I can outjump them or spin around them then outjump them. Also anticipating where the rebound will bounce based on the shot arc and direction helps.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: I'm no pro basketball player, but don't you need strength for paint defense/rebou

Rodman was pretty strong.

Very physical player and certainly not the finesse type.


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I was just ready to say that...he tried to make it sound like Dennis Rodman had the body build of Reggie Miller. Rodman was strong. He had to be strong to bang down low with the likes of a Karl Malone.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: I'm no pro basketball player, but don't you need strength for paint defense/rebou

There are other things that matter besides strength. Agility, reaction time, anticipation, and positioning can determine who gets a rebound. I'm 6'2" and usually the most athletic, but weakest in terms of pure weightlifting strenght people on the court. Everytime I play I get the most rebounds by far, because I 'm not just standing under the goal trying to box out big men by pushing them. If they don't body me up I can outjump them or spin around them then outjump them. Also anticipating where the rebound will bounce based on the shot arc and direction helps.

That's recreational basketball...I was a 6'2" rebounding, defensive machine in the paint too during my younger days, but I'm not going to pretend for ONE minute that weight lifting didn't help me. Yes, I wasn't THE strongest person in the paint, but I strong enough to bang down low with other bigs and not get fatigued so easily.

[Real2KInsider]

Re: I'm no pro basketball player, but don't you need strength for paint defense/rebou

Rodman was pretty strong.

Very physical player and certainly not the finesse type.

Rodman was physical, but I wouldn't call him strong (not relative to the players of his era). He was highly intelligent and knew how to use his body better than everyone else in the league. He had the body of a SF (more quick than he was a "bruiser").

Jarred Vanderbilt (6'9" / 214) is basically Rodman's modern equivalent.

JeMerrio Jones (6'5" / 175) takes this to the extreme. Jones briefly played in the league and toils in the G-League; he's a plus rebounder w/ no other NBA skills. Strength is definitely not a pre-requisite for rebounding.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/gleague/players/j/jonesje01d.html

[tru11]

Re: I'm no pro basketball player, but don't you need strength for paint defense/rebou

Rodman was physical, but I wouldn't call him strong (not relative to the players of his era). He was highly intelligent and knew how to use his body better than everyone else in the league. He had the body of a SF (more quick than he was a "bruiser").

Dude held his own 1 vs 1 being backed down by shaq in the post...

That requires strength regardless of what you want want to call it.




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[ksuttonjr76]

Re: I'm no pro basketball player, but don't you need strength for paint defense/rebou

Dude held his own 1 vs 1 being backed down by shaq in the post...

That requires strength regardless of what you want want to call it.




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And let's be honest, if you DIDN'T have some sense of strength, the bigger and stronger players would try to bully your little *** in the paint.

[caseyj622]

Re: I'm no pro basketball player, but don't you need strength for paint defense/rebou

The answer is yes. You need strength.

[keshunleon]

Re: I'm no pro basketball player, but don't you need strength for paint defense/rebou

No you don't need strength for paint defense or rebounds but post defense yes.

Strength for post defense while defending the back down.
Strength when boxing out, majority of NBA players don't box out.

The best rebounders had some strength but positioning and timing is a bigger factor.

Rodman was strong, not the strongest but he was strong and was in elite shape. He also was great at anticipation, was atheletic, and great at getting in position.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: I'm no pro basketball player, but don't you need strength for paint defense/rebou

We must be watching and playing a different game.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/trb_career.html

Tim Duncan might be the only player that I would consider "not strong" on this list, but he was called "Mr. Fundamental" for a reason.

[MrWrestling3]

Re: I'm no pro basketball player, but don't you need strength for paint defense/rebou

We must be watching and playing a different game.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/trb_career.html

Tim Duncan might be the only player that I would consider "not strong" on this list, but he was called "Mr. Fundamental" for a reason.

Correct, almost all of the top rebounders on the list currently in the game have a strength of 85+, and most of the Centers are in the 90's.I think Parish is the lowest(no surprise as he was thin compared to most players on that list), and even he has a 77.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: I'm no pro basketball player, but don't you need strength for paint defense/rebou

Correct, almost all of the top rebounders on the list currently in the game have a strength of 85+, and most of the Centers are in the 90's.I think Parish is the lowest(no surprise as he was thin compared to most players on that list), and even he has a 77.

Exactly! It's like people throw out common sense to justify ratings in this game. Basketball IQ can only go so far without the physical attributes. Basketball IQ can make up for average physical attributes, but it can't make up for the absence of physical attributes.

[ILLSmak]

Re: I'm no pro basketball player, but don't you need strength for paint defense/rebou

I'm glad this isn't an issue on cg. Lol Ill take everyone perfect releasing every time over not being able to bang in paint. U should see me at c vs a 190 pound rebounder. 85 str 70 vert. 70 75 reb n box n chaser. All mine and when I get ur getting put thru the rim w the ball.



-Smak