Using OTHER people's work

[vtcrb]

Ok guys I have BEEN pretty nice about people using my work, but now it is getting OLD. And this is WHY. While I have worked for MONTHS on Rosters and Draft Classes people just sit back and wait for the HARD work to be done. Then all of a Sudden once I release stuff, all of a Sudden people start coming out with stuff. I KNOW people have used my Roster and Draft Classes as a BASE changed a Couple things then released,WITHOUT asking to use it. I KNOW my work, i put things in it so I recognize it. IF you guys wanted to make Projects where were you at OFFERING HELP when the few of us working on things needed it? There are MAYBE 3 or 4 TRUE Roster and Draft Class Makers on here. Everyone else sits back and waits then combines things they like or changes a few things and then SAY "Look at my work".

I have NO Problem using things as a BASE for Names or Accessories AS LONG as you give Credit. If I have used them I MAKE sure I ask the Maker and ALSO offer to help them with ANYTHING I can. This is MAJOR reason I DIDNT make a 2012-2013 Roster. I am tired of putting in work for someone who just sits back and LURKS until work is done to just Claim the work as their OWN. IT is NOT just My Work others are getting their work ripped off as well.

Here is MY SUGGESTION. Do YOUR own work. Dont wait for others to put in the HARD work and then just rip it off. IF you have time to RIP work OFF, you HAVE time to OFFER to HELP while the Project you are ripping off is being worked on. I KNOW this will offend some, but felt it needed to be said.

[Rondo is GOD]

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I have always used 2Ks official updates as a starting point. The only time I have ever worked with someone else's stuff is when I teamed up with you and Tomba.

You rock, Vt.

[vtcrb]

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Rondo we have worked together and I know you are a True Roster maker. Enjoyed working with you. IF i do it next year I would enjoy working with you again IF you are interested.

[Darren Shawpuh]

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And hey I know you don't want to be rude or put people on blast, but I'm sorry the people need to know. I am NOT going to be supporting people who steal others work. I would go as far as to say VT your work is the most stolen on this site.

The main culprits of this are bar none Hulyan and NBA Bound25. Hulyan basically changed a few faces, and all of the sudden he has the best draft class out that is "exclusive" to the "Awesome" "official" OS roster set that hasn't come out when it was due 2 weeks ago.

Now this clown NBA Bound25 just straight up made a roster and plugged in your draft class...like come on dude really? This stuff has to stop.

[Paul Pierce_OS]

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And hey I know you don't want to be rude or put people on blast, but I'm sorry the people need to know. I am NOT going to be supporting people who steal others work. I would go as far as to say VT your work is the most stolen on this site.

The main culprits of this are bar none Hulyan and NBA Bound25. Hulyan basically changed a few faces, and all of the sudden he has the best draft class out that is "exclusive" to the "Awesome" "official" OS roster set that hasn't come out when it was due 2 weeks ago.

Now this clown NBA Bound25 just straight up made a roster and plugged in your draft class...like come on dude really? This stuff has to stop.

Wait hold on one damn second, The Official OS Mega Roster is mine I AM NOT PART OF THIS AT ALL, any work I borrow from vtcrb I asked. JUST trying to clear up that.

[Darren Shawpuh]

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Wait hold on one damn second, The Official OS Mega Roster is mine I AM NOT PART OF THIS AT ALL, any work I borrow from vtcrb I asked. JUST trying to clear up that.

I'm talking about your boy Hulyan.

[Paul Pierce_OS]

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I'm talking about your boy Hulyan.

My "boy", Me and vtcrb have been talking for 2 years, yes huylan offered me to work on the faces and he was very cool with the process. This argument has nothing to do with me, if It starts to get to my thread again I will ask a Mod to delete it.

[Darren Shawpuh]

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My "boy", Me and vtcrb have been talking for 2 years, yes huylan offered me to work on the faces and he was very cool with the process. This argument has nothing to do with me, if It starts to get to my thread again I will ask a Mod to delete it.

Like I said IN YOUR THREAD. Don't you have a roster to complete? You seem to do a lot of talking on here when you have a roster you promised would be out 3 weeks ago. IMO It's not worthy of being called the "Official" OS roster.

[Paul Pierce_OS]

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Like I said IN YOUR THREAD. Don't you have a roster to complete? You seem to do a lot of talking on here when you have a roster you promised would be out 3 weeks ago. IMO It's not worthy of being called the "Official" OS roster.

Mastermark, the guy that just got banned I know its you because why would you know about my project that well. Anyways I can release when ever I want.

[hulyan]

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I have stolen nothing. The 2012 draft class up is only to be included on Paul Pierce's roster.

[Paul Pierce_OS]

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I have stolen nothing. The 2012 draft class up is only to be included on Paul Pierce's roster.

Let me explain:
1. I asked vtcrb can I use his draft class to input the 2012 draftees(He told me yes), then I made my roster compatible with them(I also asked him to do this as well and the answer was, yes).
2. Huylan Offered to do faces for the draftees. And I let him do the faces for me.

This has absolutely nothing to do with me, what their arguing over is the fact huylan said he was going to release a copy of vtcrbs 2013 draft class that has faces edited.

KEEP ME OUT OF THIS.

[Eaglerock562]

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Buddy I'm glad that you made this post before I did, because we have ranted about this a few days ago and let me just say that I have been extremely vocal when it comes to the amount of lazy and unwilling people that have the nerve to request, suggest and many times demand a roster maker to make specific changes to their roster based solely on their preferences for the game. What we do, we do for FREE and the fact that some of you on here actually wait for a roster to be released and then make minor changes to it and re-release it calling it your work is down right sad and pitiful.

I had such a wonderful experience and time working with you and Tombs this year and I have enjoyed helping Paul and Rondo in a few areas of their work as well.

Now I have always been holding firm that when or even IF I release a roster that I am doing a one time release and one time only. The reason behind the Community and Trifecta rosters was that we would include a lot of generic caps into free agency giving everyone a roster that they could start associations with and continue rather then start over when player movements are made and that we would have a thread for people to follow with ratings for the new players by using a generic cap.

Now with the release of REDITOR, I have for the past two months been working through all hours of the day, sacrificing sleep for days at a time, but it was worth it because I have finally finished without a doubt the most accurate and efficient roster for the 2011-12 season. I have fully replaced the entire d-league for association use with real d-league players. Every team roster has been revamped back the opening day rosters and all coaches and coaching staff are accurate from the opening day of the season. All contracts ate spot on and accurate, all added players that had prior NBA experience have their year by year stats on their player profile pages. I have edited and now there are former NBA Coaches like Jeff Van Gundy, Mike Dunleavy, Jay Triano joing Randy Wittman, Mike Woodson, Keith Smart and Kaleb Canales and newly named Bobcats coach Dunlap is even in the coaches pool. Also Brian Shaw, Patrick Swing, Terry Porter and Bill Cartwright are also eligible to be head coaches.

I AM NOT RELEASING this roster the public but I WILL share it offline with the people that I know spend a great deal of time editing. To those that don't like it ask me if I care. Vtcrb, buddy when I get home from my game I will hit you up with the association file for it.

[hulyan]

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Let me explain:
1. I asked vtcrb can I use his draft class to input the 2012 draftees(He told me yes), then I made my roster compatible with them(I also asked him to do this as well and the answer was, yes).
2. Huylan Offered to do faces for the draftees. And I let him do the faces for me.

This has absolutely nothing to do with me, what their arguing over is the fact huylan said he was going to release a copy of vtcrbs 2013 draft class that has faces edited.

KEEP ME OUT OF THIS.

To be fair, I never said I'd release it. I said I was working on it.

[Paul Pierce_OS]

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To be fair, I never said I'd release it. I said I was working on it.

Let this be over with please, I deal with too much drama in IRL and on OS.

[Cowboys63]

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I have a lot of respect for anyone that does rosters, but in the end I believe all that should be expected is a credit or note on 2kshare and on their thread here that the other roster was used as a base. I don't believe permission is required.