Once again, 8 second violation is ignored this year

[ManhattanBeachLakers]

There was two incidents during my demo's when I would get my hand on a ball and deflect it out of bounds with the shot clock at like 17 and the other team hasn't crossed half yet. Once they inbound it before half court, they cross half court with like 15 seconds on the shot clock. That's 9 seconds before half court.

Once again the 8 second violation is ignored this year.

[09K ROLO]

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I've always wondered this because of 2k. Calling a timeout in the NBA doesnt reset the 8 second clock does it?

[wrestlinggod1]

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There was two incidents during my demo's when I would get my hand on a ball and deflect it out of bounds with the shot clock at like 17 and the other team hasn't crossed half yet. Once they inbound it before half court, they cross half court with like 15 seconds on the shot clock. That's 9 seconds before half court.

Once again the 8 second violation is ignored this year.

If I'm not mistaken, when a defender touches the ball, the 8 second violation doesn't count. At least that's how it was for the last couple of games..

[rosque]

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I got once that call because one dude kept bumping me and couldn't get out of my half. So it is.

[strawberryshortcake]

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There was two incidents during my demo's when I would get my hand on a ball and deflect it out of bounds with the shot clock at like 17 and the other team hasn't crossed half yet. Once they inbound it before half court, they cross half court with like 15 seconds on the shot clock. That's 9 seconds before half court.

Once again the 8 second violation is ignored this year.

The 8 second violation happens in NBA2k12. I just fired up the NBA2k12 demo and proceeded to do 8 second violations on purpose. I did it three times consecutively. Although what I did isn't exactly what happened in your game (i.e. defender deflecting the ball), the 8 second rule is in the game, and not ignored.

http://ebawords.com/tiki-index.php?page=8+or+10+Seconds+Rule+Differences

"NBA: 8 seconds. Count is reset if the defense kicks or punches the ball, is assessed a technical foul, or is issued a delay of game warning; or if play is stopped due to a player bleeding. For purposes of this rule, the ball gains front court status on a pass when it crosses the plane of the centre line."

[MrBigShot1]

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The 8 second violation happens in NBA2k12. I just fired up the NBA2k12 demo and proceeded to do 8 second violations on purpose. I did it three times consecutively. Although what I did isn't exactly what happened in your game (i.e. defender deflecting the ball), the 8 second rule is in the game, and not ignored.

http://ebawords.com/tiki-index.php?page=8+or+10+Seconds+Rule+Differences

"NBA: 8 seconds. Count is reset if the defense kicks or punches the ball, is assessed a technical foul, or is issued a delay of game warning; or if play is stopped due to a player bleeding. For purposes of this rule, the ball gains front court status on a pass when it crosses the plane of the centre line."

There you go. Idk why the OP said "once again" either, the 8 sec violation was in 2k11 too, right?

[wrestlinggod1]

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There you go. Not sure why the OP said "once again" either, the 8 sec violation was in 2k11 too.

He didn't know the rules. He didn't know that if a defender touches the ball the clock is reset.

[Ken North]

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The 8 second violation happens in NBA2k12. I just fired up the NBA2k12 demo and proceeded to do 8 second violations on purpose. I did it three times consecutively. Although what I did isn't exactly what happened in your game (i.e. defender deflecting the ball), the 8 second rule is in the game, and not ignored.

That's kinda his point; the timer is reset if it is deflected out of bounds. Which it shouldn't be. He is well aware that the rule itself is in the game.

The timer is reset in the NCAA, maybe 2K are just using the wrong rulebook

He didn't know the rules. He didn't know that if a defender touches the ball the clock is reset.

Actually, he does know the rule. No reset on out of bounds in the NBA.

"NBA: 8 seconds. Count is reset if the defense kicks or punches the ball, is assessed a technical foul, or is issued a delay of game warning; or if play is stopped due to a player bleeding. For purposes of this rule, the ball gains front court status on a pass when it crosses the plane of the centre line."

Just for the record, a punched ball in the NBA is a specific violation that is treated like a kicked ball; it is not the same as deflecting the ball.

[wrestlinggod1]

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Actually, he does know the rule. No reset on out of bounds in the NBA.

I didn't say anything about out of bounds. According to what strawberry posted, if a defender "punches" the ball, the clock gets reset. The OP said that he got his hands on the ball, so shouldn't the clock reset?

[Ken North]

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I didn't say anything about out of bounds. According to what strawberry posted, if a defender "punches" the ball, the clock gets reset. The OP said that he got his hands on the ball, so shouldn't the clock reset?

I updated my post; no a punched ball is not the same as a touched ball. It actually means punching the ball (think boxing). It rarely happens at all, I can't remember the last time I saw a punched ball violation in the NBA.

Edit: Jason William's elbow-pass comes to mind actually, that's approaching the border of what would be considered a punched ball. But obviously, he got away with that, so even that isn't crossing that line.

[mgrand15]

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He didn't know the rules. He didn't know that if a defender touches the ball the clock is reset.

Don't accuse people of not knowing the rules when you don't know them yourself.

2K does mess up the 8 seconds. It shouldn't reset on out of bounds or a deflection. Anytime the ball is deflected out of bounds in the real NBA during that situation, they just make sure they pass it into the front court. It's not really a big deal but it does put less pressure on the offense.

[Cynical]

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i do believe if the ball is deflected by a defender(becomes a loose ball) as long as there is not a change of posession an 8 second violation should happen if player that lost the ball doesnt get it passed the have court before the 8 seconds expire. if it deflected out of bounds the 8 seconds do not reset.

[Ken North]

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i do believe if the ball is deflected by a defender(becomes a loose ball) as long as there is not a change of posession an 8 second violation should happen if player that lost the ball doesnt get it passed the have court before the 8 seconds expire. if it deflected out of bounds the 8 seconds do not reset.

This is exactly correct.

[wrestlinggod1]

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I updated my post; no a punched ball is not the same as a touched ball. It actually means punching the ball (think boxing). It rarely happens at all, I can't remember the last time I saw a punched ball violation in the NBA.

Edit: Jason William's elbow-pass comes to mind actually, that's approaching the border of what would be considered a punched ball. But obviously, he got away with that, so even that isn't crossing that line.

You are absolutely correct my fair man.
According to the NBA rules from last year:
"f. The team on offense must bring the ball across the midcourt line within 8 seconds.
EXCEPTION: (1) kicked ball, (2) punched ball, (3) personal or technical foul on the
defensive team, (4) delay-of-game warning on the defensive team or (5) infection control."
There's a link but it opens in PDF reader for me.
NBA Official Rules for the 2010-2011 Season
The only reason I can imagine why 2K doesn't reset the clock is because the game doesn't recognize the difference between a punch and deflection.

[Ken North]

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You are absolutely correct my fair man.
According to the NBA rules from last year:
"f. The team on offense must bring the ball across the midcourt line within 8 seconds.
EXCEPTION: (1) kicked ball, (2) punched ball, (3) personal or technical foul on the
defensive team, (4) delay-of-game warning on the defensive team or (5) infection control."
There's a link but it opens in PDF reader for me.
NBA Official Rules for the 2010-2011 Season
The only reason I can imagine why 2K doesn't reset the clock is because the game doesn't recognize the difference between a punch and deflection.

I know I am. There's not a lot of things I can say this about, but when I make a statement about 1) NBA rules or 2) the CBA, I know what I'm talking about

And no, that's also incorrect, because a few games back (2K9 I think?) the game were spamming you with punched ball violations every time you tried to steal the ball. So they should know what it is.