So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

[The 24th Letter]

If you haven't watched part 2 of Chris Smooves NBA 2k13 impressions, you should- it's definitely worth checking out.

In the video, he mentioned that the devs didn't believe the idea of 'shot clock' cheese from the CPU...but thought that users were maybe panicking at the last second, getting out of position to properly contest shots...

What do you think about this? I know it's been debated a lot around these parts. I for one completely think it exists...I've had so many shots drained in my face when the shot clock was going down....I've even had players like Shaq hit jumpshots with time ticking down. There's no doubt in my mind they get SOME kind of a boost in that situation.

Maybe the new 'contest shot' sliders make this a non issue....what do you guys think?

[Colts18]

Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

I think it is bull. I know they have always said that but it is bull. I don't put myself out of position, I simply put my hands up in the face of the shooter and I feel it goes in about 30-40% of the time.

[Goffs]

Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

Definitely a load of BULLSHOT.....when you play tough D and the shot clock gets around 4 or 2 the cpu will drain it in no matter who it is!

It was a wtf moment to me when they laughed at him when he mentioned it to them....it's definitely NOT user error

[JerzeyReign]

Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

I don't believe in shot clock cheese. I actually had to tweak sliders to make the CPU shoot sooner because I'd block a bunch of late shots. I do get moments where the d slides outta position (due to an animation?) but its not always on the shot clock.

[Goffs]

Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

I don't believe in shot clock cheese. I actually had to tweak sliders to make the CPU shoot sooner because I'd block a bunch of late shots. I do get moments where the d slides outta position (due to an animation?) but its not always on the shot clock.

Playing on an online league will make you see it differently lol

The cpu will make you rage man....rage....

[Zach_Novak]

Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

2k said the 'clutch' rating was activated when the shot clock is winding down, also the CPU always shot with 1 second to go, not 2 or 3 or 4, it was a pump fake and shoot at 1 seconds and even if you timed your defence, hands up or jump, there's a decent chance the shot will drop which is BS.

no homo.

[StraightBaylien]

Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

2k said the 'clutch' rating was activated when the shot clock is winding down, also the CPU always shot with 1 second to go, not 2 or 3 or 4, it was a pump fake and shoot at 1 seconds and even if you timed your defence, hands up or jump, there's a decent chance the shot will drop which is BS.

no homo.

There is always a decent chance the shot will go in, as there should be. I personally love when the CPU hits a contested shot. It gives me that 'wtf' moment, but I have those on the CPU myself and don't act like you don't.
People act like no one ever hits a contested jumper in the NBA. Like a hand in the face should be a miss 100% of the time. It makes the shot HARDER to make, but there's still a chance a good shooter will hit it if its not blocked or he's not fouled.

[2kfanatic]

Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

I don't think it exists but I'm not saying the CPU does not have some kind of boost. I think it really does not matter whether its 1 sec left or 23 secs left, the CPU will have its way 80% of the time when it wants to score.

[CMH]

I don't think it exists but I'm not saying the CPU does not have some kind of boost. I think it really does not matter whether its 1 sec left or 23 secs left, the CPU will have its way 80% of the time when it wants to score.

So the CPU shoots 80% against you the entire game?

That's a disheartening position to be in for an 82-game season.


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[keshunleon]

Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

If it wasn't a shot clock cheese why did they remove clutch?

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[rockchisler]

Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

But its plays out the same everytime..CPU always dribbles then stops, pump fake, wait till 1 second on the clock then fire away and hit the shot. Shoot with 3 seconds on the clock, fade away, kick it out for a quick shot, lean in do something different.

[demfl]

Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

The shooting in NBA 2k12 is cheese and scripted, I've already started a thread about this. I have tested the shooting in this game extensively. Shooting for the CPU and User have a completely different set of rules.

I can promise anyone the CPU you will make more or equal F and D rated Quality jump shots than a user shooting B and A quality jumpers . I had back 2 back playoff games where Ray Allen made Boston first baskets of the game, both rated "F" went in on me; contested by two players . I also noticed the CPU kept draining D rated "contested" jumpers on me all game.

Meanwhile I'm brickin layups with my 7' 2' Center with max Shot close, lay ups etc. That was in My player.

Playing "Association mode" I'm unstoppable to some degree with my fav. Nick Young. I can get him super duper wide open coming off a double screen with a cheese play and many games he will miss everything dispite the continuous A+ rating and perfect release.

It's not just the shot clock cheese, it's the CPU shooting overall. Leave any CPU player open he could be rated 50 or 90, he will drain 8 out of 10 open shots on you, please try it! Now add this along with Shot quality not mattering with the CPU equals cheese shooting.

But as Users we're subject to so called "streaky shooting" "real life shooting percentages" etc when Our 99 rated, perfect release is 35% from behind the arc.

Summary shot quality means nothing for the CPU, and no such thing as streaky shooting as the CPU, leave a 50 rated CPU player open and he will light you up for 30.

If anyone disagree with me, I challenge them to actually play a game and record how many D and lower rated shot the CPU makes in one games. I also challenge them to play the Lakers and purposely leave Ron Artest open the whole game and I promise you his 3pt % will be superior to Larry Bird in real life.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

If you've ever played My Player on HOF or Superstar then you know it exists. Explain how Javale McGee can hit a post up fadeaway from beyond the free throw line contested at the end of the shot clock with the game on the line. That's how the CPU ensures they win. Abuse clutch factor

[The 24th Letter]

Having your Shaqs, Joel Anthonys, Perkins etc. hit 15 footers at a high clip is pretty frustrating...this can't just happen to me

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: So, 2k doesn't believe in 'shot clock cheese'...your thoughts?

FWIW, the shot clock "cheese" happens in online ranked games too. I've probably seen more made shot clock moments in one week, than I've probably seen in the ENTIRE time of playing NBA 2K11.

When Amare is knocking down contested 3PT shots at the buzzer, then you have a problem.