After watching the Live videos:

[ILLSmak]

Is it just me or does the overall animation/movement of players remind you of 2k? It was eerie, to me, when I was watching the dribble move video. It reminded me so much of 2k especially as the players took the ball to the basket (it seemed as if the collision detection was all messed up like it is in 2k.)

Does anyone else see what I mean?

Now, I like 2k's animations as much as the next man, but what I've noticed in 2k is animation = less control. I really hope that's not the case ESPECIALLY on defense in the paint. LeBron's dunk in the 'dribble move' video looks totally wack.

-Smak

[Jamin23]

Re: After watching the Live videos:

Two words Mike Wang.

[ILLSmak]

Re: After watching the Live videos:

Double post: I feel you on the Mike thing, but it's uncanny. It shouldn't be THAT much alike especially when it seems like they took one of the things Live actually had over 2k (simplistic dribbling... how many times to you see people pull that showtime ish in the nba?) and changed it to look prettier.

Look, you should not be able to in any game press one button to put you into some sort of a 'super powered' animation. And to me, size up in 2k was wack. This looks about the same. the crosses they show in the video

(here by the way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBGyCcCQpug )

are all showtime highlights. Of course, as a sim elitist I don't like that. I am gonna sh*t a brick if next year we have two games that have wack collision detection and poor on ball defense.

Edit: one last comment. HELP DEFENSE PLZ? Did you see KG guarding Varejao(sp) for 3 while Bron drove? In the NBA people don't let guys do and1 mixtape ish at the top of the key. heh... this makes me saddddd.

-Smak

[rockchisler]

Re: After watching the Live videos:

I don't see it but it could be the Mike Wang Influence.

[Jano]

Re: After watching the Live videos:

I don't think it looks like 2K at all it just Live looks like real basketball for once Lol. Its been a while since people could say that.

Both games are trying to simulate the NBA its just that for the first time on this current gen both games are shaping up to do just that, visually at least I can't speak for other areas though.

[WalkMan99]

Re: After watching the Live videos:

Yeh, I agree with Jano...NBA Live 10 is looking like a solid basketball game from what we have seen, but the big question is if it will give NBA 2K10 a run for its money in the 2009-2010 season.

[pbz06]

Re: After watching the Live videos:

They're going to look alike because they're both basketball games trying to be realistic.

And I don't understand your post/rants.....you're sort of bashing Live and 2K at the same time and making assumptions that Live will be animation heavy or something like that?

[XxX syntax XxX]

Re: After watching the Live videos:

They're going to look alike because they're both basketball games trying to be realistic.

And I don't understand your post/rants.....you're sort of bashing Live and 2K at the same time and making assumptions that Live will be animation heavy or something like that?

I do agree nba 2k9 was animation heavy and you had to fight the controller. From the looks of it and what ea is sayin that is you can break out of animations and mix up alot of stuff..Epic..That was 1 of my main gripes about nba 2k9 and the fact that it is slugish

[Whaaaazuuuuup]

Re: After watching the Live videos:

man, i've got to stop coming on this forum. you guys can ruin a wet dream...

[bls]

Re: After watching the Live videos:

Double post: I feel you on the Mike thing, but it's uncanny. It shouldn't be THAT much alike especially when it seems like they took one of the things Live actually had over 2k (simplistic dribbling... how many times to you see people pull that showtime ish in the nba?) and changed it to look prettier.

Look, you should not be able to in any game press one button to put you into some sort of a 'super powered' animation. And to me, size up in 2k was wack. This looks about the same. the crosses they show in the video

(here by the way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBGyCcCQpug )

are all showtime highlights. Of course, as a sim elitist I don't like that. I am gonna sh*t a brick if next year we have two games that have wack collision detection and poor on ball defense.

Edit: one last comment. HELP DEFENSE PLZ? Did you see KG guarding Varejao(sp) for 3 while Bron drove? In the NBA people don't let guys do and1 mixtape ish at the top of the key. heh... this makes me saddddd.

-Smak

You've never seen Lebron do his size up dribble like that before? It's pretty simple to me, nothing And 1ish about it. And I've seen Kobe do that crossover dribble plenty of times in games. Nothing And 1ish about that either. Now if they get to wrapping the basketball around defenders heads, rolling around on the floor double dribbling and things like that then I can see where your going. But these size up moves are pretty individual based and simple as well. I just think the realness of the animations and how fluid they are is what makes them stand out.

[2kfanatic]

Re: After watching the Live videos:

live really looks very good now but I think I saw the defender slide after the sizeup in 2 videos.

[pbz06]

Re: After watching the Live videos:

live really looks very good now but I think I saw the defender slide after the sizeup in 2 videos.

Some sliding will almost certainly be in any sports video games. If you played Live 09, you wouldn't have much to worry about. 2k9 on the other hand, sometimes I felt like I was playing NHL 09

[Pared]

Re: After watching the Live videos:

Edit: one last comment. HELP DEFENSE PLZ? Did you see KG guarding Varejao(sp) for 3 while Bron drove? In the NBA people don't let guys do and1 mixtape ish at the top of the key. heh... this makes me saddddd.

-Smak

I pointed this out and was immediately given some backwards reasoning, almost justification, as to why Garnett would do this.

But a dev came in and said it was done by design for the Pro difficulty, which the videos were being recorded on. I didn't recall this being a problem last year but it was glaringly obvious to me in these videos.

I raised my concerns so hopefully this isn't an issue on All-Star difficulty.

[stephensonmc]

Re: After watching the Live videos:

playing the game on All-Star right now and the help d is there.

[pbz06]

Re: After watching the Live videos:

playing the game on All-Star right now and the help d is there.

PM me the recorded footage to prove it

//pinky to corner of mouth