Official Boston Celtics Thread

[areobee401]

Yeah, I'm pumped for the Summer League as well. Zizic has reportedly joined the team in Boston. Must admit I have unreasonable high hopes for the kid. Chances are he is nothing more than a role player off the bench. But I have eventual starter expectations.

Semi Ojelye based off what all the draft "experts" are saying was a great second round pick. Kid appears to be strong and explosive. Wouldn't at all surprise me to see him on the main roster depending on what additions and subtraction are made over the next month or so.

On the additions subject. Woke up today feeling we strikeout on Hayward and Griffin. Gut is telling me the offseason will be rather boring considering where expectations have been set.

[areobee401]

Summer League roster.

G Kadeem Allen
F Rosco Allen
G Jabari Bird
F Jaylen Brown
G/F Perrin Buford
G Demetries Jackson
F Landen Lucas
F Abdel Nader
F Semi Ojeleye
F Terran Petteway
G Scoochie Smith
F Jayson Tatum
C Trevor Thompson
F Scott Wood
C Ante Zizic

[Jeffx]

Quote: Originally Posted by jeremym480

Life as a Celtics fan is tough.

Us Knick fans disagree.

[jeremym480]

Take these with a grain of salt

From the LA Times

Quote:

According to people not authorized to speak publicly, George, a Palmdale native, is still telling friends that he intends to be a Laker in 2018. Because of that, he knows the Lakers have little incentive to trade for him now.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers...629-story.html

From ESPN's Zach Lowe:

Quote:

If Boston trades for George, they will do so knowing he could be a rental. That limits the price they are willing to pay. Despite reports to the contrary, Boston has not included any of the following in its offers to the Pacers, per league sources: Jaylen Brown, Jayson Tatum, the 2018 Nets pick, and the Lakers-Kings pick Boston snared from Philly in the Markelle Fultz blockbuster. My best guess on Boston's standing George offer: Jae Crowder, Smart and Indiana's choice of protected first-round picks Boston owns from the Clippers and Grizzlies. That doesn't meet Indiana's goal of nabbing a top-10 pick or an equivalent talent. The Celtics will be reluctant to bid any higher given the risk of George bolting to the Lakers in a year.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page...kers-heat-more

If PG is just a rental, then I would still do it if it means getting Hayward, plus keeping the LA/SAC pick. Crowder would be expendable due to Hayward/Tatum and as much as I love Smart I doubt we can afford him next year, so he's an easy casualty, as well.

[tonybologna]

So much for getting Blake Griffin:

https://twitter.com/DanWetzel/status/880961536990294017

Looks like Hayward might be our best shot in FA.

[tonybologna]

Well, it' is going to be Hayward if we can get rid of some CAP space: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/1...d-max-contract

Rumors are the contract is worth 4 years/$128 million with a player option for year four. The 3 guys mentioned in the article linked above were the ones I figured we would be shopping around. I also expected us to let Olynyk go as well. I hate to see him go because he helped us in so many ways.

One thing I think he did fail at for his height & size was rebounding. He also wasn't consistent either but he did win a few games for us & that one game in the Bulls series this past season he got hot & really won that one game.

I hate to see Bradley go because he's a rare two-way player these days. His problem too like Olynyk was being inconsistent but he could defend the heck out of any guard that opposed him. Smart is becoming a two-way player but he's not there yet. He can really play some defense & his shooting/scoring has improved but he just makes too many silly mistakes & fouls. Crowder might be the player we would miss the most. He played pretty well for us on both ends of the floor the time he's spent in Boston. However, Hayaward at that same position would bring quite a few more points.

Defensive-wise Crowder is the better defender but we need a star player that can put points on the board to beat teams like Cleveland, Wizards, Toronto, & the Warriors. Scoring 23-25 per game in which he provides should provide that scoring as long as everybody else we keep after the trade does their thing.

So far as many as 11 teams have expressed interest in the potential trade of these 3 players. We would probably get a player or two in return but release them after signing unless it's actual players that we could use. Rumors are both teams could do a sign & trade with Crowder & Hayward to help with the CAP space.

To me if we do trade the 3 players mentioned & sign Hayward it still might not be enough. We would still need a big guy like an Olynyk to help at least try rebounding & bring toughness like Crowder does at SF.

I don't know who that would be but if we get Hayward in a sign & trade maybe we can get one extra player in that trade from the Jazz like Tony Bradley or Jeff Withey to help us with the rebounding part of the game then it might work out right. Those are really the only two big guys they have to offer because no way they would let Gobert go in a deal.

I think with getting just Hayward only & not another star/semi-star player isn't going to be enough. That's just me & my opinion. What do you guys think? BTW, looks like we might get to keep Rozier after all to backup IT4 for a few minutes per game so he won't get too tired or rundown towards the end of each season.

We also have to remember after 2018 IT4 will be up for contract talks. Hopefully we can sign him to an extension before then & keep him in Boston. If we was to lose him then all things go to heck anyhow.

[jeremym480]

I'm so torn on this because I love Bradley and Smart and really, really like Crowder, as well. On the surface, I would say Crowder would be the one to go, but keeping both Bradley and Smart seems a little redundant. Plus, Crowder gives us a bruiser to guard the LeBron types and we don't lose that much when he's the PF in small ball lineups.

Obviously, their contracts situations is a big factor as well since Crowder has one of the best contracts in the NBA. As much as I hate it I think Bradley or Smart is going to have to go.

[areobee401]

I don't no want to send Crowder to Utah to clear space. These past few days have soured my view of Utah fans and media.