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  • nofx94
    MVP
    • Aug 2012
    • 1094

    #1

    Offensive schemes and tactics

    Sorry if there is already a thread for this, but I haven't seen one and I didn't want to blow up the dynasty thread...

    What kinds of offenses do y'all run? I mean stylistically, principle-wise, formations, etc.

    I have a predisposition toward spread-I stuff and my most recent playbook creation is an attempt to marry Dan Mullen and Gus Malzahn's systems, though I haven't run a lot of no huddle because of the lack of offensive line depth on my squad.

    Most of my playbook is zone running, including lots of zone-read and motion triple-option, but there are also counters and some straight-ahead QB run stuff. Wrap, blast, etc.

    My passing game is pretty simple. Lots of play action screens, slip screen, a few play action reads, and different vertical looks.

    I try to run the ball about 60% of the time.

    I don't use any under-center. Primarily gun with three pistol formations. I'll post the playbook by formation later.

    What sort of schemes do you guys like to operate?
  • MJDrocks
    Pro
    • Nov 2014
    • 918

    #2
    Re: Offensive schemes and tactics

    I've been running the current Oklahoma State "Air-Raid." I put Air-Raid in quotations because it's actually a pretty decently balanced attack. There are a lot of good running plays and running out of 4 WR Sets can really open up some lanes and keep the defense off-balanced. There are also a decent amount of Pistol Formations in the OSU book to give your offense a duel-identity.

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    • canes21
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2008
      • 22897

      #3
      Re: Offensive schemes and tactics

      I used to always be an under center pro-style guy thanks to watching Miami so much and that being all I knew firsthand. I started doing more and more spread stuff and now in my UMASS dynasty I am all spread with a flex-bone wrinkle added into it that I use when I don't have the hogs to run over the other team in short yardage situations.

      I typically stay with 3 WRs and the TE out of the gun or pistol. I use a ton of jet motion to get the defense shifting before the snap and because so much can come from it. Fake handoff for a run up the middle, give on the jet, run a triple option off of it, run a speed option off of it, run a pa pass off of it, etc. It's been a lot of fun running a new system, but I definitely need a few years to get my guys in there to make it more efficient.
      “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


      ― Plato

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      • nofx94
        MVP
        • Aug 2012
        • 1094

        #4
        Re: Offensive schemes and tactics

        USC was very under-center-oriented for a long time, but I got into college football when Pat White and Dennis Dixon and Tim Tebow were all taking off. So even in the PS2 days I would tend to incorporate a little read option stuff in a playbook that would be primarily Ace/I-form.

        I've definitely gotten away from under center these more recent days though. My playbook, off the top of my head:

        Gun
        Nrml flex wk
        Normal offset
        Nrml offset WK
        Split offset
        Split slot
        Spread
        Spread HB WK
        Spread flex
        Spread offset
        Trio 4wr
        Trio 4wr WK
        Trio offset
        Wing trio offset
        Wing trips
        Wing trips offset
        Empty spread
        Empty wing offset

        Pistol
        Fullhouse
        Wing trio
        Wing trips

        Goal line
        Heavy (shotgun)
        ...

        I want to incorporate some wildcat, but I'm not sure which formations

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        • sikolec
          Pro
          • Apr 2004
          • 642

          #5
          Re: Offensive schemes and tactics

          I really enjoy Baylor's playbook in the game. I usually run out of the Spread and Spread Flex formations (4 wide). I'll also throw in some of the variety of trips formations and occasionally go Ace. Great playbook and I'm about 50/50 on pass/run.
          http://www.californiahelmetproject.com/

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          • nofx94
            MVP
            • Aug 2012
            • 1094

            #6
            Re: Offensive schemes and tactics

            Originally posted by sikolec
            I really enjoy Baylor's playbook in the game. I usually run out of the Spread and Spread Flex formations (4 wide). I'll also throw in some of the variety of trips formations and occasionally go Ace. Great playbook and I'm about 50/50 on pass/run.
            What sets do you run out of Ace?

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            • sikolec
              Pro
              • Apr 2004
              • 642

              #7
              Re: Offensive schemes and tactics

              Originally posted by nofx94
              What sets do you run out of Ace?
              I usually go Ace F Wing Twins. I like to keep as many WRs on the field as I can. I really like the Counter run play. There is also a great PA pass (I'd have to look it up again), but basically the second TE (strong side, might actually be a FB) releases and is wide open if the LBs bite on the PA. I usually formation sub the TE/FB with a back-up RB that has some impact block ratings. This player can get some great yards receiving, but also needs to be able to seal off the block on that Counter.
              http://www.californiahelmetproject.com/

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              • nofx94
                MVP
                • Aug 2012
                • 1094

                #8
                Re: Offensive schemes and tactics

                Originally posted by sikolec
                I usually go Ace F Wing Twins. I like to keep as many WRs on the field as I can. I really like the Counter run play. There is also a great PA pass (I'd have to look it up again), but basically the second TE (strong side, might actually be a FB) releases and is wide open if the LBs bite on the PA. I usually formation sub the TE/FB with a back-up RB that has some impact block ratings. This player can get some great yards receiving, but also needs to be able to seal off the block on that Counter.
                That's a good use of the h-back position. I know in recent years Urban Meyer has used people at h back that also get carries and catches.

                I like f wing twins for the ability to use 21 personnel out of Ace, but I think I've found twin TE slot to be more malleable.

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                • SilverBullet19
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2015
                  • 4089

                  #9
                  Re: Offensive schemes and tactics

                  I've gone through many types of offenses in my time playing (been playing NCAA since 03 I think).

                  I love spread, pass heavy, air raid type offenses. I also love power running games. I am a bit more predisposed to the passing game, as I was a WR/TE in my playing days lol.

                  Something I've switched to, in order to maintain a challenge, is using whatever playbook my OC comes in with.
                  Check out my dynasty:
                  http://forums.operationsports.com/fo...oma-state.html

                  Major Boise State fan

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                  • nofx94
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 1094

                    #10
                    Re: Offensive schemes and tactics

                    Originally posted by SilverBullet19
                    I've gone through many types of offenses in my time playing (been playing NCAA since 03 I think).

                    I love spread, pass heavy, air raid type offenses. I also love power running games. I am a bit more predisposed to the passing game, as I was a WR/TE in my playing days lol.

                    Something I've switched to, in order to maintain a challenge, is using whatever playbook my OC comes in with.
                    I've never been good at the air raid but I think I've started to get better at reads. I just force too many throws.

                    And I have an archaic run-run-deep pass mindset. But I've gotten more adaptable and I'm improving.

                    What inspired your interest in the Air Raid?

                    Also, what's your least favorite playbook you've used?

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                    • Pikachu83
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2017
                      • 8

                      #11
                      Re: Offensive schemes and tactics

                      I usually always find myself going back to a pro style offense, even if I started a dynasty with a team that didn't begin with a pro style offense. Nothing against the other offensive styles in the game, pro style just feels "right" to me. I think it just fits my style of play the best, using the run game to set up the passing game.

                      When I'm not using my custom playbook, I think I'm usually using Georgia's or Stanford's playbooks (pretty sure those are pro style, I don't have access to my PS3 at the moment so I'm not 100% sure). My custom playbook is still nothing special, it's honestly just like a combination of the two previous mentioned playbooks with some extra formations and plays that I like running added in. A lot of ace formations and I formations and I utilize my tight ends a lot. I did add a lot of option and read plays though since I like my quarterback to be fast so those are always nice to have.

                      Yeah, nothing special, my style of play is very basic

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                      • THE LOVER
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 93

                        #12
                        Re: Offensive schemes and tactics

                        I run the power coast offense. It’s a combo of West and east coast tactics.


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                        • Guru03
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 432

                          #13
                          Re: Offensive schemes and tactics

                          When I started playing football video games, I was always inclined to pass.

                          With NCAA 12 and Clemson (manually edited rosters to reflect the offenses’s sudden takeoff), I ran a spread playbook but a de facto Air Raid and did so for many years regardless of the team and edition; but I was horrible and only progressed somewhat in abilities.

                          When I was in an online dynasty with friends this summer that my twin was also in, I suffered a nasty loss to an underdog (the only game I thought I would win that season; I won more games than I personally predicted but all were upsets or CPU wins).

                          I asked my twin why I stink and he said that I have trouble with passing as you have to process lots of information quickly; and he suggested that a Stanford or Wisconsin offense would help.

                          I played half a season in a solo dynasty before I quit with a FCS team using Wisconsin’s playbook redshirting all my good players and played above the roster ratings, upsetting a couple of 20+ points higher teams but also losing some. But I actually felt like I was not doomed to lose every single game.
                          - Arizona Cardinals (Eternal Punishment)

                          - Clemson

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                          • nofx94
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 1094

                            #14
                            Re: Offensive schemes and tactics

                            Originally posted by Pikachu83
                            I usually always find myself going back to a pro style offense, even if I started a dynasty with a team that didn't begin with a pro style offense. Nothing against the other offensive styles in the game, pro style just feels "right" to me. I think it just fits my style of play the best, using the run game to set up the passing game.

                            When I'm not using my custom playbook, I think I'm usually using Georgia's or Stanford's playbooks (pretty sure those are pro style, I don't have access to my PS3 at the moment so I'm not 100% sure). My custom playbook is still nothing special, it's honestly just like a combination of the two previous mentioned playbooks with some extra formations and plays that I like running added in. A lot of ace formations and I formations and I utilize my tight ends a lot. I did add a lot of option and read plays though since I like my quarterback to be fast so those are always nice to have.

                            Yeah, nothing special, my style of play is very basic [emoji38]
                            Do you use a lot of motion with your skill position players to exploit matchups?

                            Originally posted by THE LOVER
                            I run the power coast offense. It’s a combo of West and east coast tactics.


                            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                            So like what Auburn did under Tuberville or like what Stanford did under Harbaugh? How do you work it out in-game?

                            Originally posted by Guru03
                            When I started playing football video games, I was always inclined to pass.

                            With NCAA 12 and Clemson (manually edited rosters to reflect the offenses’s sudden takeoff), I ran a spread playbook but a de facto Air Raid and did so for many years regardless of the team and edition; but I was horrible and only progressed somewhat in abilities.

                            When I was in an online dynasty with friends this summer that my twin was also in, I suffered a nasty loss to an underdog (the only game I thought I would win that season; I won more games than I personally predicted but all were upsets or CPU wins).

                            I asked my twin why I stink and he said that I have trouble with passing as you have to process lots of information quickly; and he suggested that a Stanford or Wisconsin offense would help.

                            I played half a season in a solo dynasty before I quit with a FCS team using Wisconsin’s playbook redshirting all my good players and played above the roster ratings, upsetting a couple of 20+ points higher teams but also losing some. But I actually felt like I was not doomed to lose every single game.
                            I'm definitely a run-first guy myself, but I tend to stay away from those three-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust-style playbooks just because I think I get claustrophobic with the field. What has been the key to you being successful with the offense?

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                            • Pikachu83
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2017
                              • 8

                              #15
                              Re: Offensive schemes and tactics

                              Originally posted by nofx94
                              Do you use a lot of motion with your skill position players to exploit matchups?
                              For the most part, yes. I do admit that I sometimes forget to do it, but I will use motion and hot routes to exploit matchups.

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