Would Madden be better if MUT and Franchise were different games

[KoachYo]

Could EA provide more to Madden if MUT and Franchise were totally separate games?

Could the full potential of both modes be maximized this way?

It seems like its getting glitchier each game and the fixes are so big for both that they are now so large that it takes much of the season to fix or attempt to fix everything.

Could Madden Online and Offline franchise have a more in depth experience if there wasn't so much in the one Madden game?

Or can the current game be fixed with the total removal of the FACE of The Franchise mode?

Thoughts?

[KoachYo]

Re: Would Madden be better if MUT and Franchise were different games

Personally,

I would like to see more of a HEAD COACH 08 where we could design plays and playbooks better, with a real practice mode like the late 90s early 2000s. I would like to see a full week of preparation before a game (with an option to sim or skip for those that don't want to do that).

I would like to see coordinators and scheme have more of an impact on play calling if you choose to let the computer give you a choice of plays.

Fatigue have more effect, ability to choose weather and game times. More equipment choices and color choices.

The MUT heads want more as well.

I'm sure this has been suggested before. Has anyone from EA ever expressed their thoughts about that?

I think 2K may be setting it up to do that.

[Madden08PCgmr]

Re: Would Madden be better if MUT and Franchise were different games

Yes, 100%

1-size-fits-all clearly isn't working.

I think they underestimate their audience considerably. The appetite for the NFL is rabid. They could sell an online/play now game, a franchise/season game, AND a head coach game.

.. if they could make the licensing work, I can't even imagine what they could make off a retro series like NBA2k has released.

[Caulfield]

Re: Would Madden be better if MUT and Franchise were different games

my gut tells me yes,
but then I think again that no more devs would be working
on franchise as a stand-alone than already does as is.
so it'd probably be a wash

[Hooe]

Re: Would Madden be better if MUT and Franchise were different games

Based on how short-lived NFL Head Coach was, I don’t think we would actually enjoy the hypothetical world where Ultimate Team is partitioned into its own game. I kinda think that road ends with MUT becoming Madden by default and the Madden Franchise game being dead.

It’s also not just MUT one has to consider, either. Where would Superstar KO, The Yard, Draft Champions, and Face Of The Franchise get sent off to?

[JoshC1977]

Re: Would Madden be better if MUT and Franchise were different games

It sounds good in theory, but I just don't think it would help in the ways some of the OS community would want it to. The franchise community is so incredibly heterogeneous; it's nowhere near as binary as MUT vs Franchise.

Madden's approach to franchise is to make it appealing across a broad spectrum of players (single player leagues, multi-player leagues, both hardcore sim guys and guys who just want to play it more casually with arcade elements). They don't offer enough user-controlled elements to vary the experience across the user bases and it becomes a messy catch-all situation. IMO, this is more the root cause of franchise's shortcomings (from the typical viewpoint of many OSers) than anything to do with MUT.

MLBTS and NBA2k both have quality franchise offerings (albeit they do it different ways with different strengths/weaknesses) along with quality card collecting modes. It absolutely CAN be done - I don't see one impacting the other.

If EA were to separate Madden, we'd very likely get the same "catch all" franchise mode in the "franchise game" as we have now as it really appeals to be their design philosophy from a holistic perspective.

[Caulfield]

Re: Would Madden be better if MUT and Franchise were different games

Based on how short-lived NFL Head Coach was, I don’t think we would actually enjoy the hypothetical world where Ultimate Team is partitioned into its own game. I kinda think that road ends with MUT becoming Madden by default and the Madden Franchise game being dead.

It’s also not just MUT one has to consider, either. Where would Superstar KO, The Yard, Draft Champions, and Face Of The Franchise get sent off to?

Face of the Franchise would go with regular franchise and MUT would get the rest

[BadAssHskr]

Re: Would Madden be better if MUT and Franchise were different games

Cut it all out with exception of MUT and CFM.

On the field both games should play simulation style football, should be exactly the same, should be geared towards replicating what we se on Sundays.

CFM gets the Franchise parts.
MUT gets the MUT parts.

Everyone switches back to the NCAA game next year.

[webbjay82]

Re: Would Madden be better if MUT and Franchise were different games

Nope. The issue is with EA and the developers. If they really wanted to invest and make franchise the best mode it could be then they would. The fact is they are worried about money and MUT makes money. If they made franchise a separate game they would just ignore it like they do now unless they could find a way to add micro-transactions to it.

[oneamongthefence]

Re: Would Madden be better if MUT and Franchise were different games

I think the biggest thing holding back Madden is the FOTF stuff. I think it's been confirmed in years past that the story modes are done by the franchise department. And those modes have been mostly onboarding players into MUT and the Yard (which has MXTs) EA does not want franchise players. EA cares not for single player games.

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[Madden08PCgmr]

Re: Would Madden be better if MUT and Franchise were different games

Based on how short-lived NFL Head Coach was, I don’t think we would actually enjoy the hypothetical world where Ultimate Team is partitioned into its own game. I kinda think that road ends with MUT becoming Madden by default and the Madden Franchise game being dead.

I would like to see what a Head Coach release would look like today. The exact same game with 4k/HD graphics.

For those that haven't played 09, the depth can't even be explained. Hands down the best franchise/management experience EA has rolled out.

I do understand its a niche game. I'm under no delusion it would break sales records. But I have no doubt it would be a success if they put the effort into it.

.. if they are going to kill franchise, I wish they would just get on with it! Hopefully another label would appeal to the NFL to fill that void.

[DatsunDimer]

Re: Would Madden be better if MUT and Franchise were different games

I would like to see the MUT world be more of the live service with a franchise yearly/bi-yearly release. Head Coach is still an amazing game to go back to and I often wonder how it would have faired if gameplay could have been integrated. I would more than happily pay $70 for the version of franchise mode that I want to play.

[ML]

Re: Would Madden be better if MUT and Franchise were different games

This would never happen nor would it work, they cannot be bothered to support one game, why would they support two? The issue isn’t the game modes being on one game, its that there is no competition and really no reason to go above and beyond year in and year out - at worst they get review bombed, but the game itself still sells regardless.


Edit: But in an ideal world yes, it would be better as two separate games. In an ideal world, we'd also be playing 2k's version of the game...

[PhillyPhanatic14]

Re: Would Madden be better if MUT and Franchise were different games

Seems like there's a misconception that franchise is the only broken mode in this game. EVERY mode is broken, including the money maker MUT. Separating it into multiple games won't change anything. There are bigger issues. If Madden is going to be better in the future then EA needs to stop being so greedy and actually reinvest their profits into the game. They need to hire more devs and more competent devs (3+ months spent on one bug in franchise in a game that is a yearly release is absurd). They need to treat the devs that care about the game with more respect so they don't keep leaving (Rex, Swami, etc.).



EA doesn't care about players in any of their games (see Anthem, Battlefield 2042, Star Wars Battlefront 2, every EA sports game). They care about money. They know they'll make money on name recognition without investing in a quality product so they repeat the same pattern with all of their games, giving minimal effort and delivering broken games. They continually rake in the money and because of that nothing is ever going to change.