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  • Playmakers
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    • Sep 2004
    • 15419

    #1

    Weather & Player speed

    I noticed the trailer didn't show any footage of bad weather.

    As we all know weather is huge part of the sport and for the past decade the weather effects snow and rain have both been copied and pasted every year without any changes in Madden.

    Definitely hope EA took a different approach to this and give us a much more improved looking game in terms of weather conditions.

    As for player speed/movement the trailer was hard to gauge anything. But for those who remember the player speed and movement in Madden 21 for PS5 & XBOX series S Ea had finally delivered a terrific player movement system. The players felt like they had Weight to them and speed was on point in that game.

    In fact that was the best moving madden game imo since coming to NG systems

    I would love for EACFB to utilize the Madden 21 player movement.

    They've since speeded up the game for all other versions after 21.

    I'm as excited as everyone else following the trailer. But I feel with great atmosphere in this game having much improved weather effects and player movement would make this game even more legendary on it's return.

    Other games have rendered great looking snow and rain I hope EA doesn't kill the immersion factor after a 10 year wait giving us that same madden look
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  • georgiafan
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    • Jul 2002
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    Re: Weather & Player speed

    There was a hint of weather shown the snow of Wyoming entrance and rain on the helmet I think it’s in Washington
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    • Playmakers
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      • Sep 2004
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      #3
      Re: Weather & Player speed

      Originally posted by georgiafan
      There was a hint of weather shown the snow of Wyoming entrance and rain on the helmet I think it’s in Washington
      Thanks for the heads up

      I got to go back and take a look at the trailer again
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      • TarHeelPhenom
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        • Jul 2002
        • 7123

        #4
        Re: Weather & Player speed

        Pouring rain in the Washington tunnel clip, and snow in the Wyoming clip. I was trying to get a look at the part of the field that was shown to see if it was covered entirely. Couldn't tell.
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        • TripleCrown9
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          • May 2010
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          #5
          Re: Weather & Player speed

          It's also raining in the clip of the Oregon mascot, and one of the Oklahoma shots.
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          • Razor Hogs
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            • Feb 2024
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            #6
            Re: Weather & Player speed

            Yea I think the weather elements are looking good as well, especially at Washington. It rains alot there in the fall so its very realistic.

            The snow at Wyoming looks really good also, I love how they touch that cowboy statue too (I have never seen that before). I now may have to schedule a non con game in Laramie lol.
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            • MemTigerfan6
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              • Jan 2024
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              #7
              Re: Weather & Player speed

              I'm right there with y'all about the weather it's the most important small feature in this game for me. If we don't have changeable weather degrees and heavy snow/different weather effects from Madden I'll be immensely disappointed. Fingers crossed we get all that. Or better yet have us customize it like overcast in 1st light rain in 2nd sun peeking out of clouds in 3rd and sun setting in 4th.

              It's unfortunate TOM III (live Tiger mascot) passed away in 2020 love ya T3 and the Tiger Guard are too heartbroken to do a TOM IV.
              I'm hoping Pouncer the Tiger (costumed mascot) is in the game. It'll be for the first time in franchise history so it would be awesome to see him on the sidelines getting the crowd amped. It would be also amazing to have "I'm so glad" song sung by the students or the Tiger Walk or how after a win sections of the crowd chants " Whoop That Trick " or the team leading the band and students in the Alma mater song but I'm not holding my breath for any of those.

              I'll take Pouncer all the lovely Memphis uniforms combinations (please EA! Lol) and a great detailed locker room shot before they run out onto the field and call it a day. Sorry for the ramble I'm amped to see the phenomenal stadium renovations in 2026 both IRL and in that year's version of the game. GTG! And welcome back CFB!

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              • poulka
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                • Jan 2011
                • 928

                #8
                Re: Weather & Player speed

                I agree with this thread with my whole heart. I hope we get dynamic and varying weather. The weather in Madden has been the same since Xbox one and ps4 came out and no changes at all.

                Also on side note that goes with this, but this will a telling sign too. Madden 13 (last Madden on ps3 and 360) was the last Madden that had lighting that changed per snap. I just happened to see this last week. Remember how the old ncaa team prided them on getting the lighting correct. Going as far as going to different stadiums and capturing the sunset at different times of and different times of year. You can find this on YouTube with three part series that featured on ESPN on the making of ncaa 13 I believe.

                Mighty big coincidence that Madden had decent lighting and weather until ncaa football got canceled. Then the weather has been the same since. Hoping with ncaa back we get real weather in both titles. One thing that still is concerning while looking at the pre order for Madden you still have last gen as an option. Just why?
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                • SSplinter9
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                  • Jul 2010
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                  #9
                  Re: Weather & Player speed

                  Maybe I'm misremembering this, but I recall one of the NCAA Football games having integration with the Weather Channel and it would "predict" weather based on a game created map. It missed the mark a bit, because it was basically another way of representing randomized weather, but visually it created a sense of a connected college football landscape.

                  I would like for them to eventually strive for a widely connected weather system with true dynamic weather (e.g., overcast first quarter that transitions into scattered showers throughout the game). I know this feature is available in the game engine, and with the focus on current gen hardware, I think it could be realized, eventually.

                  With all that being said, the weather has to impact gameplay. If I'm tearing up a field as a monsoon rages around me, I want to be forced into adapting my play-style to overcome poor traction or grip. Still too early to tell, but I am interested to see them advertising weather this early in the cycle.

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                  • Playmakers
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                    • Sep 2004
                    • 15419

                    #10
                    Re: Weather & Player speed

                    Originally posted by poulka
                    I agree with this thread with my whole heart. I hope we get dynamic and varying weather. The weather in Madden has been the same since Xbox one and ps4 came out and no changes at all.

                    Also on side note that goes with this, but this will a telling sign too. Madden 13 (last Madden on ps3 and 360) was the last Madden that had lighting that changed per snap. I just happened to see this last week. Remember how the old ncaa team prided them on getting the lighting correct. Going as far as going to different stadiums and capturing the sunset at different times of and different times of year. You can find this on YouTube with three part series that featured on ESPN on the making of ncaa 13 I believe.

                    Mighty big coincidence that Madden had decent lighting and weather until ncaa football got canceled. Then the weather has been the same since. Hoping with ncaa back we get real weather in both titles. One thing that still is concerning while looking at the pre order for Madden you still have last gen as an option. Just why?
                    Interesting

                    I never knew that about ncaa 13. Going to look it up on YouTube

                    I went back ànd watched the trailer and I couldn't really tell if the weather was different from the small clips they showed.

                    As mentioned before I just don't want to see the fields copied and pasted from madden. Because as you mentioned madden still looks like something from Xbox one weather wise.
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                    • poulka
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                      • Jan 2011
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                      #11
                      Re: Weather & Player speed

                      Originally posted by SSplinter9
                      Maybe I'm misremembering this, but I recall one of the NCAA Football games having integration with the Weather Channel and it would "predict" weather based on a game created map. It missed the mark a bit, because it was basically another way of representing randomized weather, but visually it created a sense of a connected college football landscape.

                      I would like for them to eventually strive for a widely connected weather system with true dynamic weather (e.g., overcast first quarter that transitions into scattered showers throughout the game). I know this feature is available in the game engine, and with the focus on current gen hardware, I think it could be realized, eventually.

                      With all that being said, the weather has to impact gameplay. If I'm tearing up a field as a monsoon rages around me, I want to be forced into adapting my play-style to overcome poor traction or grip. Still too early to tell, but I am interested to see them advertising weather this early in the cycle.
                      You are not remembering that at all. NCAA 13 and a couple Belford had live weather feature weather with the weather channel. Had their logo in the setup screen when selecting the options for a play now game. I had one game that had showers in the vicinity. But the game that sticks with me is zforida vs Penn St I did that was in Happy Valley it was overcast up there during I set that game up. Was most beautiful game as far as wether visuals. Madden over cast looks like you are playing a game with a hurricane off the coast it is just too dark.
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                      • TarHeelPhenom
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                        • Jul 2002
                        • 7123

                        #12
                        Re: Weather & Player speed

                        Originally posted by Playmakers
                        Interesting

                        I never knew that about ncaa 13. Going to look it up on YouTube

                        I went back ànd watched the trailer and I couldn't really tell if the weather was different from the small clips they showed.

                        As mentioned before I just don't want to see the fields copied and pasted from madden. Because as you mentioned madden still looks like something from Xbox one weather wise.
                        If you haven't already, do yourself a favor and go read the ESPN article. They go in depth about the process and what it took to render every stadium in the game, their new lighting system etc. They said, the only a few stadiums they used from Madden, like Mercedes Benz stadium and the Rose Bowl because the Falcons and Rams played there. None of the assets from NCAA 14 were used. So they built the majority these things basically from the ground up. Same with the lighting system...brand new tech.

                        Truly a labor of love for that team. The amount of time they said it took to do just one stadium is crazy!
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                        • gator3guy
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                          • Jul 2004
                          • 2233

                          #13
                          Re: Weather & Player speed

                          Originally posted by SSplinter9
                          Maybe I'm misremembering this, but I recall one of the NCAA Football games having integration with the Weather Channel and it would "predict" weather based on a game created map. It missed the mark a bit, because it was basically another way of representing randomized weather, but visually it created a sense of a connected college football landscape.

                          I would like for them to eventually strive for a widely connected weather system with true dynamic weather (e.g., overcast first quarter that transitions into scattered showers throughout the game). I know this feature is available in the game engine, and with the focus on current gen hardware, I think it could be realized, eventually.

                          With all that being said, the weather has to impact gameplay. If I'm tearing up a field as a monsoon rages around me, I want to be forced into adapting my play-style to overcome poor traction or grip. Still too early to tell, but I am interested to see them advertising weather this early in the cycle.
                          The Weather Channel feature was great for its time. It wasn't dynamic which was the next step, but it was still a pretty cool feature.

                          Anyone know if Madden has weather in online game modes or is it still daylight and sunny? I remember liking that about the old NCAA games. You couldn't adjust the weather or time of day in the online modes.

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                          • poulka
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                            • Jan 2011
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                            #14
                            Re: Weather & Player speed

                            For anyone interested you can search YouTube for the making of ncaa 12. This was a three part series that espn aired to show the work put into the features, lighting and sound in that game. Revolutionary stuff at that point of time.

                            I just wish for once we can get a football game that is next level in all aspects of football. This series lets you know that the type of stuff we have been asking for is very attainable.
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                            • illwill10
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                              Re: Weather & Player speed

                              Originally posted by poulka
                              For anyone interested you can search YouTube for the making of ncaa 12. This was a three part series that espn aired to show the work put into the features, lighting and sound in that game. Revolutionary stuff at that point of time.

                              I just wish for once we can get a football game that is next level in all aspects of football. This series lets you know that syptuff we have been asking for is very attainable.
                              Semi-off-topic, I really wish they would have made a "Making of EA CFB 25" series or some type of Dev Diaries. With the game being away for 11 years, it would have been cool to see 3-5 part series going over the process of making this game again and all the hurdles they had to get over and decisions being made.

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