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  • Gotmadskillzson
    Live your life
    • Apr 2008
    • 23442

    #1

    And another high school coach gets in trouble because of his mouth

    http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/b...hschool-wp8603

    With everybody having smart phones, it is best to just keep your mouth closed in public. People getting in trouble left and right lately.
  • ImTellinTim
    YNWA
    • Sep 2006
    • 33028

    #2
    Re: And another high school coach gets in trouble because of his mouth

    I have no sympathy when *******s get their due. Sounds like this guy has a pattern of making stupid comments of this kind.

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    • VDusen04
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2003
      • 13034

      #3
      Re: And another high school coach gets in trouble because of his mouth

      This one's tough to wade through for me. I've been a witness to a handful of small deals in my community which were then twisted and turned into big deals by parents and local media outlets, so even in apparently obvious cases, I always find myself being open to the other side of the story. In this case, I wonder if "future welfare recipient if you don't get good grades" is truly a racial statement. I also wonder how the $30,000 line was presented. Could it have been a life lesson speech poorly given by a basketball coach to a team who may have happened to be mostly black?

      The coach clearly could have said all of this stuff in a better way. And if his point truly was to belittle and bully African-American students, then it's an open and shut case. It's just, as an educator, I often have nightmares of having myself say something only to then see it twisted and used against me. For instance, if I'm running an open gym and a prospective player with bad grades comes up and tells me how he's going to be running my team the following year and I say something like, "Well son, not with those grades you're not" I fear an angry parent could lead to a "Coach Says Player is Stupid and Won't Play For Him" headline somewhere.

      Finally, the other caveat to this story is the student saying he'd told the coach it was bothersome when he was spoken to in that manner. That should have been a clear sign for the coach to reel things in. But then again, I guess it depends on the manner with which the kid said it. I wouldn't find it far-fetched to believe the kid told him to stop in a joking manner (or just a manner that generally wasn't portrayed as sincere).

      As a kid, it's tough to pull an adult aside and tell them you have a problem with their actions. It's a backwards scenario. But if he hadn't done that yet, maybe that would have been the next step (a parent-kid-teacher meeting). It sounds like they went to the principal (rightfully) and the coach was summoned, which makes it sound like he was just brought in to apologize but not to discuss. Hard to say. I think a two-way discussion would have helped a lot more than making a guy say sorry. But again, I don't know what happened. Maybe they'd already tried every other route and the coach is truly just a jerk who doesn't care. It's just hard to tell from an article like this.
      Last edited by VDusen04; 11-22-2011, 08:34 AM.

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      • SuperBowlNachos
        All Star
        • Jul 2004
        • 10218

        #4
        Re: And another high school coach gets in trouble because of his mouth

        I'm not seeing the issue with what he said.

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        • Skyboxer
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          • Jul 2002
          • 20302

          #5
          Re: And another high school coach gets in trouble because of his mouth

          Reason 1324 why this country is nothing more than turning into the "wuss" country.
          We are already seeing the results of the "Entitled" generation. That being followed up with the "Sensitive" generation = more troubling times for the good ole USA.
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          • ImTellinTim
            YNWA
            • Sep 2006
            • 33028

            #6
            Re: And another high school coach gets in trouble because of his mouth

            Almost as annoying as trying to get someone in trouble when there really isn't anything there is the "too PC" crowd that flies in and announces how the Country is going to hell.

            I dunno, I just think that when you're in certain positions that you watch what you say. I think it's really lousy if what this kid says is true, and this guy should get another job where his ignorant comments aren't directed towards kids.

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            • matt8204
              MVP
              • Sep 2008
              • 1164

              #7
              Re: And another high school coach gets in trouble because of his mouth

              OK, not the worst thing he could have done, but very unnecessary and unprofessional, especially for someone in his position who kids should be able to look up to as a mentor.

              There is an old saying; if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. Adults should especially be aware of this axiom.
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              • Graphik
                Pr*s*n*r#70460649
                • Oct 2002
                • 10582

                #8
                Re: And another high school coach gets in trouble because of his mouth

                2 things.

                1: Coach sounds like he may have been a tool. If he repeatedly told the coach how it made him feel than I feel the coach should ultimately apologize for it.

                2. The kid sounds like a tool as well. Probably didn't have what it takes to make the team so he kept a grudge with the coach his 2 years at the school. Plus, if you watch the vid, he laughs along after the coach repeats it. Didn't sound like his feelings were hurt then.


                Lastly, this whole ordeal is messed up to begin with. Its not like a scholar Chemistry teacher told him he would be on welfare in the future. This is a gym/basketball coach for crying out loud. Some coaches have a outrageous sense of humor and some are tight-wads. But these are not the people responsible for your education so his comment would be taken with a grain of salt. No doubt the coach is wrong if there was truly offense taken but this looks like a case of a parent stepping in and tossing their weight around.
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                • Chrisksaint
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                  • Apr 2010
                  • 19127

                  #9
                  Re: And another high school coach gets in trouble because of his mouth

                  Coaches are well different then the normal teacher or so I noticed at my HS a lot of stuff they said or talked about weren't really appropriate for school
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                  • GAMEC0CK2002
                    Stayin Alive
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 10384

                    #10
                    Re: And another high school coach gets in trouble because of his mouth

                    As a teacher, you should know you can't get away with saying something like that. That was dumb and even more dumb to repeat it on camera.

                    Did anyone else find it ironic, that a HS gym teacher/coach is calling somebody else out about a low income job? It takes a LONG time (and multiple degrees) before you start to see any real money as a teacher in a public school.

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                    • Reaman
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 2917

                      #11
                      Re: And another high school coach gets in trouble because of his mouth

                      The cellphone video clearly makes it a joke.

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                      • SuperBowlNachos
                        All Star
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 10218

                        #12
                        Re: And another high school coach gets in trouble because of his mouth

                        I wonder what kind of grades the kid makes? Sounds like he is a lazy *** bum if the coach is telling him that poor grades will lead to welfare.

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                        • daflyboys
                          Banned
                          • May 2003
                          • 18238

                          #13
                          Re: And another high school coach gets in trouble because of his mouth

                          No sympathy for the coach/teacher. Some in the field feel entitled to do and say what they want and believe that the "teacher" or "coach" status has them on an untouchable pedestal. Guess what? Technically you're a public servant. Schools are not money making businesses. You exist and your job exists because tax payers pay for it. In fact, our kids HAVE to go to your school by virtue of the fact that we live in the district and really can go no where else. So technically, you work for the district a la you work for the taxpayer. Sorry, but that's about it. You do get the summers off though, so sweat that out.

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                          • matt8204
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 1164

                            #14
                            Re: And another high school coach gets in trouble because of his mouth

                            Originally posted by GAMEC0CK2002
                            As a teacher, you should know you can't get away with saying something like that. That was dumb and even more dumb to repeat it on camera.

                            Did anyone else find it ironic, that a HS gym teacher/coach is calling somebody else out about a low income job? It takes a LONG time (and multiple degrees) before you start to see any real money as a teacher in a public school.
                            I had a couple of gym teachers who were clearly bitter, wannabe athletes that never made it and made sure to take out their frustrations on students.
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                            • CWSapp757
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                              • Aug 2008
                              • 4651

                              #15
                              Re: And another high school coach gets in trouble because of his mouth

                              While many people may say that what he said is "not that bad", there are just simply some things you can't say to a kid as a teacher or as a professional in general. Seriously, what was the point of making that comment? Maybe the kid is a lazy bum, maybe he isn't. Whether he is or is not does not change the fact that it was an unnecessary comment especially in the situation where the comment was made.
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