Stealing on pitchouts

[treyraq]

Has anyone successfully swiped bases on a pitchout?
I know odds shrink, but it's not impossible.

I'm seeing 'automatic' outs even with guys like Ellsbury, and I'm wondering if it's even possible...

There's an old thread that pitchout pitches were 5mph faster but I haven't noticed if that's happening or not.

(I only play MoM but this could pertain to all gameplay)

[vinny_pizza]

Re: Stealing on pitchouts

Has anyone successfully swiped bases on a pitchout?
I know odds shrink, but it's not impossible.

I'm seeing 'automatic' outs even with guys like Ellsbury, and I'm wondering if it's even possible...

There's an old thread that pitchout pitches were 5mph faster but I haven't noticed if that's happening or not.

(I only play MoM but this could pertain to all gameplay)

I just had Michael Bourne snag one against the Twins on a pitchout. He got a killer jump and flat out beat it to the bag.

[RLebron12]

Re: Stealing on pitchouts

I do it all the time with Angel Pagan or Gregor Blanco

[Thomasademaio]

Re: Stealing on pitchouts

Trey how exactly are you attempting to steal bases?
for example I press and hold L2 so I can time the pitcher. Before anyone thinks this is a leave early exploit I promise I don't cheese any aspect of baseball games. But tend to have to wait till sometime after I have had a chance to watch pitcher tempo and pitch sequence. I play with the braves and I'm confident even with uggla, liard, and guys not exactly gifted with speed like my outfield the other teams catcher better have a spot on throw to have a chance even on pick offs.

P.S. I dunno if you can dictate how players slide in MOM but I've noticed my stealing success went up 15% by head first hook sliding second base to the back of the bag.
One of three things will happen :
1) you get hosed
2) the hook slide is safe because the guy on the bag did his pick animation so it takes longer to take.
3) the catch makes a good throw but you hook slide to the back half elongating the tag needed to be made and are safe

Ill take my odds 2/3 every time

[HighCmpPct]

Re: Stealing on pitchouts

Is say I make it in about 50% of the time on pickoffs.

The real difference on mine is if the catchers throw is one of those that bounce just before reaching second then I'll be safe, but if it's right there I'm usually out.

[birthday_massacre]

Re: Stealing on pitchouts

I do it with Elsbery a lot. If you can get a lead and a nice jump you can beat it most of the time and sometimes even when they pitch out you can beat it because the catcher throws the ball too high.

I do find most of the pitch outs come on the 2nd pitch of an at bat

[treyraq]

Re: Stealing on pitchouts

Trey how exactly are you attempting to steal bases? e

In Mangage Only Mode, you simply give the runner the Steal command, and it's all automatic from there.

In 2 games, I was caught 4 times, all on pitchouts.
2 w/Ellsbury, 1 each with Pedroia & Victorino.

And they always pitched out on the exact pitch I selected to steal.
It had me thinking...dare I say...a "comeback code" of pitchouts!

I just chose to start the thread because I don't remember ever seeing a successful steal on a pitch out.

[birthday_massacre]

Re: Stealing on pitchouts

In Mangage Only Mode, you simply give the runner the Steal command, and it's all automatic from there.

In 2 games, I was caught 4 times, all on pitchouts.
2 w/Ellsbury, 1 each with Pedroia & Victorino.

And they always pitched out on the exact pitch I selected to steal.
It had me thinking...dare I say...a "comeback code" of pitchouts!

I just chose to start the thread because I don't remember ever seeing a successful steal on a pitch out.

Was it always a different pitch in the count?
Like I said it always seems when I try to steal on the 2nd pitch of an at bat that is when there is a pitch out.

I have stolen on a pitchout before its about 50/50 most times the throw is really high or I get a great jump and the pitcher has a really slow delivery. But its def possible

[nonoirie]

Re: Stealing on pitchouts

MoM player here.....

I have successfully stole 2nd when they pitchout...

[bronxbombers21325]

Re: Stealing on pitchouts

I managed to get one with Ichiro. Mainly because the ball was thrown high and the fielder had to jump.

[Kamasutra]

Re: Stealing on pitchouts

The Steal Early command also works wonders on pitchouts combined with a top notch runner... simply hold L2 and time the release.

[Cavicchi]

Re: Stealing on pitchouts

In Mangage Only Mode, you simply give the runner the Steal command, and it's all automatic from there.

In 2 games, I was caught 4 times, all on pitchouts.
2 w/Ellsbury, 1 each with Pedroia & Victorino.

And they always pitched out on the exact pitch I selected to steal.
It had me thinking...dare I say...a "comeback code" of pitchouts!

I just chose to start the thread because I don't remember ever seeing a successful steal on a pitch out.

I have a Season going with MoM and I'm convinced the CPU knows when you select steal. I put on a hit and run and watched the replay. What happened was my batter hit the ball to the 3rd baseman and runner from second was out at third. Now that in itself is not the problem, the problem is how it happened. The 3rd baseman had to get the ball which was down the line and he was playing straight away. Sooo, how does he play straight away and get to the ball down the line--and he's no Brooks Robinson?

Replay showed while the pitcher was in his windup, the 3rd baseman ran to the bag! Now, why would he run to the bag when there was no runner moving just yet? The pitcher had just started his windup.

I've also noticed in MoM that my pitcher hasn't thrown over to first for a pickoff, but CPU pitcher will and often has. I've had my runners picked off first, but have yet to see my pitcher pick off anyone.

[jayhawkblue]

Re: Stealing on pitchouts

I have done it a couple of times, but only on pitchers who have slow deliveries to the plate or big leg kicks such as Verlander.

[treyraq]

Re: Stealing on pitchouts

I've also noticed in MoM that my pitcher hasn't thrown over to first for a pickoff, but CPU pitcher will and often has. I've had my runners picked off first, but have yet to see my pitcher pick off anyone.

Well, you actually have to select pickoff attempts, they're not automatic.

Do you have that replay?

[nomo17k]

Re: Stealing on pitchouts

Successful steals do happen in CPU games.

CPU often pitchout before two ball counts, but never after.