Reason for Association and Roster Issues for Next Gen

[vtcrb]

Ok I THINK i know why the issues are Persisting. Very simple, NONE of the guys who make or test the game PLAY ASSOCIATION. You always see them Tweeting about PARK or Quick Play Game, etc. You CANT expect a game to put much into a MODE that is NOT played by the guys testing or developing the game. I mean of COURSE Rosters wont be an ISSUE, because they are NOT playing thru an Association. CPU AI Trade Logic, CPU Signings, etc. CANT be a Priority IF they are NOT playing that MODE. If they played ON-Line Association, they would realize the Importance of Customization. IF a League wants to Make their Own Roster and Draft Classes they should be able to do it. They should be able to Customize Sliders. I WOULD play On-Line IF I could USE Custom Rosters and Draft Classes. WHY should everyone be forced to play with SAME settings? I mean they even took away the Ability to SAVE to your HARD Drive, someone PLEASE explain why that happened. And please DONT say they didnt have time. They have KNOWN Next Gen was coming out for OVER a year. POOR Use of time is NOT an excuse to release a game with Flaws contained in NEXT Gen. UNTIL they get someone who WANTS to play an Association in Development team the issues will persist and KEEP getting worse.

You WOULD think the Basics would be in 1st NEXT GEN Release, then BUILD off that BASE for FUTURE:

-Ability to Customize Roster(Player Editing,CAPs and CATs)
-Ability to SAVE Roster and Sliders to Hard Drive
-Basic Game Modes(Quick Play, Off-Line and On-Line Association Modes)
-Ability to Customize Associations (Off-Line and On-Line)

[RangersCruz]

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Well it shouldn't have went away but the CAP's , Roster editing , Saving files ect a lot of people bought this game including tons of casual gamers some that might not even play basketball ever just because it looked graphically amazing and was one of the more talked about games and when it came out those kind of gamers bought it and probably speaks for majority of gamers ( not including hardcore ) they don't give a crap about roster editing or CAP's or anything you might on here they just go on and play until they get bored and play something else and to 2k this is perfect.

[threattonature]

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I agree with the sentiment that dev doesn't play any of the association modes. If they did I don't think there is anyway that some of the problems that have existed for years would continue to exist.

[vtcrb]

Re: Reason for Association and Roster Issues for Next Gen

Well it shouldn't have went away but the CAP's , Roster editing , Saving files ect a lot of people bought this game including tons of casual gamers some that might not even play basketball ever just because it looked graphically amazing and was one of the more talked about games and when it came out those kind of gamers bought it and probably speaks for majority of gamers ( not including hardcore ) they don't give a crap about roster editing or CAP's or anything you might on here they just go on and play until they get bored and play something else and to 2k this is perfect.

Valid points BUT will the Casual Gamer keep buying the game for 5-10 years, like MANY of the ACTUAL Basketball Fans will? No. And to me that is a HORRIBLE business plan for the future of this basketball series.

[kevmasood]

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What 2k is doing is taking the ability to customize , to our likeing thats the ?. WHY, they all put the ability, CAP, EDIT, CUSTOMIZATION , Taking away from the ROSTER MAKER, now all of a sudden its a BIG PROBLEM to them. 2k series, with VC , no ONLINE LEAGUES, NO ability to SAVE to a HARD DRIVE, ALWAYS GOT TO STAY CONNECTED ONLINE, 2K is going down the wrong ROAD

[Johnnyrotface]

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2k simply doesn't have enough time in a year to make sure the game is up to par. It's a meh making business and 2k is focusing on that aspect now. They focus their efforts on devising ways to get us to buy VC.

Considering how long the game has been out, the terrible problems the game has and patches that have been made, its the only logical explanation. Shame on you 2k, you're about ruin a very good thing.

[Johnnyrotface]

Re: Reason for Association and Roster Issues for Next Gen

2k simply doesn't have enough time in a year to make sure the game is up to par. It's a money making business and 2k is focusing on that aspect now. They focus their efforts on devising ways to get us to buy VC.

Considering how long the game has been out, the terrible problems the game has and patches that have been made, its the only logical explanation. Shame on you 2k, you're about ruin a very good thing.

Fixed..........................

[Cherifanaiz]

Re: Reason for Association and Roster Issues for Next Gen

Currently the online league:

Only allowed us to play a game of at least 30 attempts.
Transfers do not require management approval. Also not allowed to send more than one possible trade between the same teams.
No permits the expulsion of a player by the league administration. Neither the gameplay settings.
Only allows the creator of the simulation league and reset their own party, but can not do it with other users.
Not allowed to set rotations, playbooks, assigning each player plays ...

This, coupled with the impossibility of playing modes and mygm myPlayer, make the "Best Sports Game of the Year" .. unplayable!

A shame for all lovers of the saga we buy the game every year since its appearance! My Gamertag is Jugosgastrika. Regards!

[vtcrb]

Re: Reason for Association and Roster Issues for Next Gen

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[raiderphantom]

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I assume they will keep making CG versions for a few years(or last gen I guess it's called now). Is this idea crazy? If they keep editing ability in these last gen games somewhat...is that their idea to keep making a profit from last gen? They know sim heads/OS members will be forced to accept it. Is they possibly a marketing strategy to sell more last gen copies or am I thinking too far outside the box?

[vtcrb]

Re: Reason for Association and Roster Issues for Next Gen

I assume they will keep making CG versions for a few years(or last gen I guess it's called now). Is this idea crazy? If they keep editing ability in these last gen games somewhat...is that their idea to keep making a profit from last gen? They know sim heads/OS members will be forced to accept it. Is they possibly a marketing strategy to sell more last gen copies or am I thinking too far outside the box?

I am HOPING they make 2k15 for CG, if not 2k14 CG will be my LAST game, unless they decide to FIX NextGen.

[apollooff320]

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I don't own a current gen console anymore, so I would have to get the next version of NBA Live if they pull this same crap next year.

[ffaacc03]

Re: Reason for Association and Roster Issues for Next Gen

I know there was one who played the mode, Simballer, the developer in charge of the mode ... but since he was also trusted the development of MyCareer, then his focus got diluted, if not, entirely ported to that mode. Since I dont know the ins within Virtual Concepts, will venture to say it was forced by the publisher: 2K (and what they think is what the majority wants).

I dont have the game, just played it for some hours on a friends house so please take my opinion as a grain of salt ... I love the ideas that were introduced with MyGM (leaving aside some huge implementation and balance issues), but totaly hate the presence of legacy issues and specially, what was cut off.

IMHO, the cut off direction did not mirrowed most of what was posted here in the wishlist, nor most of the hardcores thinking ... even worse, it absolutely negated one of the iconic NBA2K franchise pillars all while demenishing many of this next gen consoles strong selling points: editability, customization, easyness, more user friendly, expect greatness. About legacy issues, lets just say that I was somewhat expecting them since they have been present for half a decade if not more, they seem unfixeable or at least, unavoidable (yes, sadly, had that low of expectations on that regard).

I also know of some other member, thus very new, that plays the mode ... our ex community member Leftos and my hopes on him and what he may bring, are very high. He cant be satisfy with what we got and I sincerely hope that he gets the permission and resources to achieve all of what he has in mind. I also hope that he can manage to voice directly our sentiments and feedback.

I sincerely hope he makes both, fellow developers and the game publishers realize that compromised directions aint enough to satisfy casuals and sim, they just aint nomore ... what can indeed help satisfy such 2 very distinct markets are EDITABILITY, CUSTOMIZATION, OPTIONS ... these can help us provide the means to fit the game into each of our own and unique views ... if all modes were focused around them, if they were exponentialy improved and marketed, they could help the game achieve another level of sales.

Here is to hope for that, is a big hope but one I am forced to stick with as I have no other alternative than to do so or not buy the game.

[BobbyColtrane]

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they tried to revamp the mode and failed miserably. i wish they would change it back and focus on incremental improvements.

[Smirkin Dirk]

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The amazing thing about myGM is that AI trade logic and roster management has historically been a major weakness for 2K. That problem was largely solved by allowing 30 team control (for 2K 10??)

So they get rid of that game mode and base the new one on a supposedly revamped base of AI trade logic and roster management, whilst removing the safety valve of 30 team control.

Very, very dumb.