Man + Zone?

[sbattisti]

Hey folks, I am running a 3–4 defense, and I like to play man with my corners and zone with everyone else. But I can't seem to find any plays that are set up like that. I find I have to constantly call audibles just to manage that.

Is that not something real teams do? Does anyone know where I can find plays like that?


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[SolidSquid]

Re: Man + Zone?

i know Dallas and Tampa Bay have that in their playbooks

[Birdman18]

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There's only one play that does that and it's a cover 2 play where the corners man the outside receivers and the backers play middle zones

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[steve115658]

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Cover 2 sink has the outside corners play man. Also I like to call zone blitz plays and then but the blisters in coverage. Dime defense has alot of good db blitzes that can become man/zone combos

[Fours]

Re: Man + Zone?

Hey folks, I am running a 3–4 defense, and I like to play man with my corners and zone with everyone else. But I can't seem to find any plays that are set up like that. I find I have to constantly call audibles just to manage that.

Is that not something real teams do? Does anyone know where I can find plays like that?


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No, that is not something real teams do.. With certain pattern matching schemes it may appear that way against some route combinations, but no, it would be unsound to cover the field that way.

You have too few players to cover the entire field with your zones. You can't leave the area vacated by the CB's uncovered, as anyone running routes to the sideline would be uncovered.

There's several other problems with a 5 man zone with no blitz, but that first reason should be more than enough to get away from the idea.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

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No, that is not something real teams do.. With certain pattern matching schemes it may appear that way against some route combinations, but no, it would be unsound to cover the field that way.

You have too few players to cover the entire field with your zones. You can't leave the area vacated by the CB's uncovered, as anyone running routes to the sideline would be uncovered.

There's several other problems with a 5 man zone with no blitz, but that first reason should be more than enough to get away from the idea.

It he plays online, that might be a good play. A lot of guys ignore the flat routes and try to throw over the middle a lot.


Anyway, to TC another thing you can do is to call a man coverage play, and then use the LB audible "Zone All" on the XB1 I believe it is RB then right stick up. It puts all linebackers in yellow zones.

[EccentricMeat]

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Call a man blitz, and put your blitzing LBs/DBs into zones that make sense for the situation and your opponent's tendencies.

[brgisme]

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No, that is not something real teams do.. With certain pattern matching schemes it may appear that way against some route combinations, but no, it would be unsound to cover the field that way.

You have too few players to cover the entire field with your zones. You can't leave the area vacated by the CB's uncovered, as anyone running routes to the sideline would be uncovered.

There's several other problems with a 5 man zone with no blitz, but that first reason should be more than enough to get away from the idea.

This is it, you run a half zone half man to man like that you'll get killed. Their is a reason it's not used in the NFL. Sure, you might make it work a time or two, but against anyone with half a brain you'll get killed.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

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This is it, you run a half zone half man to man like that you'll get killed. Their is a reason it's not used in the NFL. Sure, you might make it work a time or two, but against anyone with half a brain you'll get killed.

I wouldn't immediately discount the idea. The defensive plays have been almost exactly the same for years by this point, so anything you can do that's novel can confuse the opposing player. Since there's almost no way to be creative with the pass rush, you've got to experiment in coverage.

[Fours]

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I wouldn't immediately discount the idea. The defensive plays have been almost exactly the same for years by this point, so anything you can do that's novel can confuse the opposing player. Since there's almost no way to be creative with the pass rush, you've got to experiment in coverage.

lol, right, the novelty of not covering large areas of the field.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

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lol, right, the novelty of not covering large areas of the field.

Laugh if you want, but I've had guys throw right into my DB because he had what he thought was a zone beating route but I had audibled one of my guys into man. And vice versa.

Like I said, it's almost impossible to be creative with the pass rush so your chance vs. a human is to confuse them with coverage.

[Fours]

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Laugh if you want, but I've had guys throw right into my DB because he had what he thought was a zone beating route but I had audibled one of my guys into man. And vice versa.

Like I said, it's almost impossible to be creative with the pass rush so your chance vs. a human is to confuse them with coverage.

If your point is that your opponent blindly threw to a receiver without reading anything post-snap, then you'll have to agree he had an equal chance of throwing into the empty zone vacated by your man audible..

So if we're making a list of coverages that are effective against terrible passers, sure, add it to the list..

[Ph0bicSquirrel]

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If your point is that your opponent blindly threw to a receiver without reading anything post-snap, then you'll have to agree he had an equal chance of throwing into the empty zone vacated by your man audible..

So if we're making a list of coverages that are effective against terrible passers, sure, add it to the list..

You've never made a bad read in your life? Ultimately most of madden is determining opponents tendencies and improvising, mostly with a user defender. Ex. Manning up the slot receiver with a DE or LB and usering the MLB for the middle of the field while the rest of the team is in zone. That is a technique utilized by many "pros" in the madden community.

[marktoloba]

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nice thanks for the advice

[garyraymond23]

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Hey folks, I am running a 3–4 defense, and I like to play man with my corners and zone with everyone else. But I can't seem to find any plays that are set up like that. I find I have to constantly call audibles just to manage that.

Is that not something real teams do? Does anyone know where I can find plays like that?


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In the Falcons 4-3 defensive playbook they have some play where the 2 outside corners guard the receiver, 4 D-line blitz and everyone else plays zone but, to be completely honest, the play is god awful and gets exposed across the middle/deep middle essentially every time. Falcons interior LB's/Safety's aren't the best in zone coverage tho.