Conference Schedule Logic

[BionicBeard52]

I'm currently looking into beginning a dynasty with 2016 rosters, but wasn't sure how to make schools play a 9-game conference schedule.

I know it's based on the number of schools and whether or not the protected rivals setting is on or off.

For example I want the Big Ten to play 9 games, should I do protected rivals on or off?

[falcor1234]

Re: Conference Schedule Logic

turn the protected rivals on for the 9 game schedule with 14 teams in conference.

[Kodos]

Re: Conference Schedule Logic

I got this from some thread on this board. Not sure who to credit, but here it is:

For 8 or 9 conference games, use this info:

4-8 schools – 7 conference games. There are no protected rivals since everyone plays everyone else. For conferences of 4-6 schools FCS opponents will play the part of your additional conference games

9 schools – 8 conference games. There are no protected rivals since everyone plays everyone else.

10 schools – 9 conference games. There are no protected rivals since everyone plays everyone else.

11 schools – 8 conference games with a rotation of other conference members.

12 schools – 8 conference games when using protected rivals. 9 conference games when not using protected rivals. (Note: C-USA will use their 8 conference game, no protected rival format by default)

13 schools – 8 conference games. Protected Rivals are not available in conferences with odd numbered schools.

14 schools - 8 conference games when using protected rivals. 9 conference games when not using protected rivals.

15 schools – 10 conference games. Depending on the rotation you will have 6-7 division games in a year with 3-4 rotating cross divisional games (based on the MAC's 13 school schedule rotation)

16 schools – 9 conference games. With protected rivals you will have 7 division games, 1 protected rival, and 1 rotating cross division opponent. Without protected rivals you will have 7 division games and 2 rotating cross division games.

[thekodinator]

Re: Conference Schedule Logic

tried to find an existing thread for this and thought maybe this were the best one....


I just expanded the BIG 12 to include BYU and Houston, split the divisions into a North/South set up. After 3 seasons into it, I've realized that the in-division scheduling is static each year. Each year, my in-division schedule starts with 2 cross-division games, and then in the same order every year: OK State, Kansas, Iowa State, Kansas State, TCU (cross div rival), and Oklahoma to finish the year. Is there a setting to change this (other than modding, which would be a huge pain in the neck to try to do in the regular season)? I don't like finishing against the same teams in the same order every year.

[SilverBullet19]

Re: Conference Schedule Logic

tried to find an existing thread for this and thought maybe this were the best one....


I just expanded the BIG 12 to include BYU and Houston, split the divisions into a North/South set up. After 3 seasons into it, I've realized that the in-division scheduling is static each year. Each year, my in-division schedule starts with 2 cross-division games, and then in the same order every year: OK State, Kansas, Iowa State, Kansas State, TCU (cross div rival), and Oklahoma to finish the year. Is there a setting to change this (other than modding, which would be a huge pain in the neck to try to do in the regular season)? I don't like finishing against the same teams in the same order every year.

A way to battle this is changing up the conference. IE adding and removing teams. I tend to add/remove teams from the conference I am in every few years. For example, I may move West Virginia to the ACC, or Iowa State to the Big 10 for geographic reasons. It's fairly realistic to see teams move these days, so I don't have to suspend the disbelief. It can also keep things fresh with new opponents.

You could also fix it geographically (IE a more westernly team is in the east conference and vice versa, so you swap them), or change the protected rivals, or turn them off for a season or two.

One final thing (I haven't tried yet) is to move your team out of conference, then move it back in right after. It could trip the system a bit and re-randomize the scheduling.

I feel you pain. I currently have a 4 game road streak to end the season. Although it means I finish with 4 at home next year, it sucks. I'm in teambuilder, so I can't edit.

[R1zzo23]

Re: Conference Schedule Logic

One final thing (I haven't tried yet) is to move your team out of conference, then move it back in right after. It could trip the system a bit and re-randomize the scheduling.

I was thinking that could be a solution. I'm not at that point of my dynasty so I'm hoping that someone could try it and confirm if it works or not.


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[kc_brigade88]

Re: Conference Schedule Logic

The schedule depends on what teams you add to your conference and works from week 15 back. Example: My Sun Belt conference

15 - Arkansas State
14 - Texas State
13 - New Mexico State
12 - South Alabama
11 - Troy
10 - ULL
9 - ULM
2 - Georgia State

I added the teams in that reverse order. Week 15 Matchups in my dynasty are

ULL/ULM
Little Rock/ASU
USA/Troy
NMSU/TXST

Bye: Georgia State

There will be teams that end up with like 4 straight home or road games. Haven't figured it out. Nor have I figured out anything past a 10 team league with divisions. I have done the Sun Belt and Big 12 in my dynasties and all the rivalries I wanted were on Week 14 and week 15.

There was a thread earlier this year that chronicled it.

[kc_brigade88]

Re: Conference Schedule Logic

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...schedules.html

[StopHammerTime69]

Re: Conference Schedule Logic

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...schedules.html

So, just to be clear, you can't manipulate the schedule if you have Teambuilder teams in the game, right?


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[kc_brigade88]

Re: Conference Schedule Logic

So, just to be clear, you can't manipulate the schedule if you have Teambuilder teams in the game, right?


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You can manipulate the schedule with teambuilder in there. What you have to do is take the teams out of the conference you wish, and add them 1 by 1. For example, I take Kansas and Teambuilder out of Big 12 and put them independent. Next, I add KU and Teambuilder to Big 12. This will make KU/Teambuilder the Week 15 matchup. since they were the last 2 put into the conference.

[StopHammerTime69]

Re: Conference Schedule Logic

You can manipulate the schedule with teambuilder in there. What you have to do is take the teams out of the conference you wish, and add them 1 by 1. For example, I take Kansas and Teambuilder out of Big 12 and put them independent. Next, I add KU and Teambuilder to Big 12. This will make KU/Teambuilder the Week 15 matchup. since they were the last 2 put into the conference.

Huh. I suppose I meant editing it with the editor, but that's not something I had thought about. Does this fix the problem where all home games are in a row, followed by all the away games?


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[mattrd39]

Re: Conference Schedule Logic

I was thinking that could be a solution. I'm not at that point of my dynasty so I'm hoping that someone could try it and confirm if it works or not.


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I tried this last night. I made a 16-team SEC (w/ protected rivals) and a 12-team Big 12 (no protected rivals) before the initial season. Simmed it and then advanced to the next season to check the schedule for two random teams in those leagues, Georgia and Baylor. Then went back and re-loaded during the offseason and moved four random SEC teams independent and two random independents to the Big 12 and then moving them all back to their correct place (so there weren't actually any conference changes, but tried to manipulate it so it thought there might be).

I also messed around with the protected rivalries in the SEC, leaving real ones like UGA-Auburn and Tennessee-Alabama but altering some of the others that are just paired despite not actually being "rivals."

There were no changes to Baylor's schedule, they played the same conference opponents at the same home/away site during the same weeks.

Georgia had one cross-division opponent change for week one (was LSU and changed to Texas A&M), but played all the other same opponents in the same order. Some of the same opponents did change home/away site but the game was scheduled during the same week. The Bulldogs did still have stretches of 3+ consecutive home or away conference games.

This scheduling thing bugs me so I might try some other things too, but it doesn't look like just moving them around without actually making changes worked for me as well as I hoped.

[TexasLASFan]

Re: Conference Schedule Logic

Strange thing in my dynasty I had 5 teams who don't play in conference games which they are set in conference here are the schools

Massachusetts (AAC)
UCF (C-Usa)
WKU (MAC)
BYU (MWC)
UTSA (SB)

Each division i had protected rivals on maybe if I turned in off they will play there conference games?

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[Colorado_Kid]

Re: Conference Schedule Logic

When you start customizing conferences all kinds of weird things start happening like a bunch conference games on the road in a row. Another thing I have noticed is when you schedule a home game or a road game it doesn't always turn out to be the location you selected when the season began.

[ck2024]

Re: Conference Schedule Logic

Why does NCAA 13 sometimes schedule for some schools only 11 games?