Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

[simbayless]

Seems like last gen getting more love then next gen.Mike been Capping about this being a new engine and had the nerve to charge us 70 bucks .what I get from this next gen is like a Dr stopped in the Middle of surgery and said f*** it move on to the next patient (nba 2k22)

[lemarflacco]

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

Their gameplay director was hospitalized. He also mentioned a lot of the things that need fixing or to dangerous to patch and need to be implemented in to next years game. Keep in mind, they are working on two versions of the game. Current and next gen and with the game being released so late, im sure they are at the point in time of the year where they are focused on next years game.

Working in the industry... I have to warn to be careful what you wish for. At what point of people saying this game is "unplayable" do you not try and fix and just focus on making next years game playable?

So not sure if you were just looking to complain , which is your prerogative. But if you're looking for an answer, thats it . Not saying its acceptable or you should want that but its definitely an answer to your question of "WHY" they aren't patching.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

Their gameplay director was hospitalized. He also mentioned a lot of the things that need fixing or to dangerous to patch and need to be implemented in to next years game. Keep in mind, they are working on two versions of the game. Current and next gen and with the game being released so late, im sure they are at the point in time of the year where they are focused on next years game.

Working in the industry... I have to warn to be careful what you wish for. At what point of people saying this game is "unplayable" do you not try and fix and just focus on making next years game playable?

So not sure if you were just looking to complain , which is your prerogative. But if you're looking for an answer, thats it . Not saying its acceptable or you should want that but its definitely an answer to your question of "WHY" they aren't patching.

Hence the reason why I absolutely HATE when people call the game "unplayable". No...you just don't like to play it as it's currently is.

[simbayless]

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

Wowwww ok so just fake hype this game up for 70 rac$$
Knowingly this game is subpar then last gen?
2k need to be transparent sometimes . Nothing is stoping them from making a quick tweet or something this is not the 90's

[lemarflacco]

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

Czar , the gameplay director, has been EXTREMELY transparent. Also, I never know what you guys expect lmao I dont think anyone who is EMPLOYED by a company has free reign, or an obligation, to go on the internet and bash the game and encourage people to not buy it, to make you happy bro lol

But ill let you vent because this obviously is not a productive thread where you are looking for an answer to anything . You're just looking to be frustrated, so have at it .

[zello144]

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

Mike been Capping about this being a new engine and had the nerve to charge us 70 bucks

That's not Mike's responsibility he doesn't decide what to charge for the game. That's Take Two Strauss Zelnick decided to raise the prices.

[Walt Frazier]

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

Re Da Czar, the idea that one person being ill caused the complete lack of gameplay patches is ludicrous. This is a billion dollar company...the game makes them 100s of millions on profit each year.

The reality is the game came out late, most people don’t have next gen yet, and they have ‘moved on’ to 2K22 when they can inprove the game and cash in when more people have next gen machines. That is a commercial decision. Nothing more, nothing less.

Not supporting those of us who paid $70 is poor form, but this is what happens in business.

[Gosens6]

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

Wowwww ok so just fake hype this game up for 70 rac$$
Knowingly this game is subpar then last gen?
2k need to be transparent sometimes . Nothing is stoping them from making a quick tweet or something this is not the 90's

If you think last gen is superior to the next gen version than I want some of the good ganja you're smoking my friend.

[simbayless]

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

If you think last gen is superior to the next gen version than I want some of the good ganja you're smoking my friend.

Pump ya brakes y'all looking at me like Ryan Moody levels towards madden.I am a 2k stan through and through but I'm not gonna let 2k forget where they come from. Nothing wrong with constructive criticism.
When I say last Gen is better I'm talking about :

Pick N Roll
Transition Defense
Hall of fame too easy even with sliders and CPU gets cold streaks too often that leads the momentum swing to the human side too often

Let's be real take away impressed graphics MyNBA, and circus threes then you basically have last gen $60

[JUSTlFIED]

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

Their gameplay director was hospitalized. He also mentioned a lot of the things that need fixing or to dangerous to patch and need to be implemented in to next years game. Keep in mind, they are working on two versions of the game. Current and next gen and with the game being released so late, im sure they are at the point in time of the year where they are focused on next years game.

Working in the industry... I have to warn to be careful what you wish for. At what point of people saying this game is "unplayable" do you not try and fix and just focus on making next years game playable?

So not sure if you were just looking to complain, which is your prerogative. But if you're looking for an answer, thats it . Not saying its acceptable or you should want that but its definitely an answer to your question of "WHY" they aren't patching.

Nothing you said is wrong, but its also not an excuse especially when its a consumer product.

I work in a company that does software and product development, and our department as a whole (devs and support) is significantly smaller than Visual Concepts/2K, also Im sure both our CAPEX and OPEX is less the Take Two/2K.

None of the things you listed should excuse how they manage this game year after year (and to be clear I understand you specifically weren't excusing it).

Also, due to working in a similar situation, I can recognize that individuals like CZAR, Wang, and others are doing all they can, year after year its becoming very apparent this is a top-down issue and the upper management is making project decisions based on dollar signs, which is only working due to lack of competition

[Junior Moe]

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

Seems like last gen getting more love then next gen.Mike been Capping about this being a new engine and had the nerve to charge us 70 bucks .what I get from this next gen is like a Dr stopped in the Middle of surgery and said f*** it move on to the next patient (nba 2k22)

How do you know that 2K has dropped gameplay support? Mike Wang and Czar could still be updating the gameplay and just not tweeting about it. That would actually be better, IMO. As soon as Mike says they tweaked something everyone instantly hates that aspect. May as well update it silently and monitor it. That way they can discern the legit complaints from the folks how complain just because.

[Phillyboi207]

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

Pump ya brakes y'all looking at me like Ryan Moody levels towards madden.I am a 2k stan through and through but I'm not gonna let 2k forget where they come from. Nothing wrong with constructive criticism.
When I say last Gen is better I'm talking about :

Pick N Roll
Transition Defense
Hall of fame too easy even with sliders and CPU gets cold too often the human momentum shifts to human to quick

Let's be real take away impressed graphics MyNBA, and circus threes then you basically have last gen $60

Transition defense and momentum swings are actually fairly simple to fix. Honestly last gen transition D is the worse I’ve seen in 2k in a LONG time.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

If you think last gen is superior to the next gen version than I want some of the good ganja you're smoking my friend.

I'm playing them both. Honestly, current gen just seems more like a completed product than next-gen. I "went back" to next-gen due to the graphics and little loading time when it comes to PNO. At the end of day, I play NBA 2K21 basically once, maybe twice, a week, so I really don't even care anymore.

In fact, next-gen plays like an exaggerated version of NBA 2K21 with better graphics. Also, I'm not even sure how people are coming to the conclusion that the AI is "better" in the next-gen. He plays the same to me.

[simbayless]

Re: Why did 2k drop gameplay support for next gen?

Next gen is like the new hot girl in school . every guy is treating her so dearly and protecting her for about a week then her new fresh wears off and the guys sees her like the rest (nothing special)


Now we gotta watch for marketing hype words out these devs mouths like new engine,we had a breakthrough last night yada yada. Don't tell me show me

What's funny to me when NBA live was still breathing 2k was very transparent besides the spidy patches
Funny how competition will make a person get off the couch after watching the news lol


This picture right here is deeper than you think
It symbolize what 2k use to be that realness,raw and uncut persona
Didn't care what people think about having cornrows, tattoos,true to himself attitude and let the work speak and didn't try to cater to casuals trying to knock off the goals in mind.
2k needs to look at this Allen iverson picture in there platinum plaque offices and not bank accounts to remind themselves how real they use to be and quit trying to be stephen curry to casuals.

https://www.google.com/search?q=nba+2k1&oq=nba+2k1&aqs=chrome..69i57j46i433j0j46i433j69i60.15666j0j4&client=ms-android-motorola-rev2&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=GvBAXGMS2xbjqM

[JKSportsGamer1984]

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I'm playing them both. Honestly, current gen just seems more like a completed product than next-gen. I "went back" to next-gen due to the graphics and little loading time when it comes to PNO. At the end of day, I play NBA 2K21 basically once, maybe twice, a week, so I really don't even care anymore.

In fact, next-gen plays like an exaggerated version of NBA 2K21 with better graphics. Also, I'm not even sure how people are coming to the conclusion that the AI is "better" in the next-gen. He plays the same to me.

I could never go back to last gen due to the sliding. The foot planting is way better on Next gen.