CPU and 3pt Shooting

[rjohns23]

I know its a pre-season game but d*** Golden State has attempted 36 3pointers... at the half smh lol...

Can 2k even implement something like this in where we can get the CPU to chunk up that many 3s... at a half?... and Portland has 25 too.

Now I havent played against GS or Portland so far so maybe this happens but I seriously doubt it. I have to butcher the sliders and do a rehaul on player edits to get the CPU to take at least 30 3pt attempts a game.

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[Smallville102001]

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I didn't realize they had shot that many 3 pointers tonight but I dont watch preseason. But that many in a half is not going to happen often even in the 3 point happy nba of today. The most I think I have seen the CPU take in a game vs me is like 44.

[rjohns23]

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Yea its an outlier but it would be nice to see the CPU have the capability of shooting that many 3s...Hell Utah averaged 43 attempts last season. And just watching some of the preseason games tonight, I was just reminded of how many contested 3s are taken in a game.

The CPU rarely just pulls up in your face from 3. But thats what we see...especially in today's game. Now I'm able to get that some with editing the player tendencies but its not organic.

But with it being a video game, Im pretty satisfied with it.

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[Smallville102001]

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Yea its an outlier but it would be nice to see the CPU have the capability of shooting that many 3s...Hell Utah averaged 43 attempts last season. And just watching some of the preseason games tonight, I was just reminded of how many contested 3s are taken in a game.

The CPU rarely just pulls up in your face from 3. But thats what we see...especially in today's game. Now I'm able to get that some with editing the player tendencies but its not organic.

But with it being a video game, Im pretty satisfied with it.

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Yeah I hear you also you like never seen the CPU take those long like Curry rage type of 3 pointers that more and more guys are taking now days.

[rjohns23]

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Yeah I hear you also you like never seen the CPU take those long like Curry wage type of 3 pointers that more and more guys are taking now days.

Yep haven't seen it yet. But I haven't played against Curry, Lillard, or Trey Young yet. So maybe its there, they got a badge for it I think

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[AIRJ23]

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I hope not. If I wanted to watch a pickup game vibe with constant threes I’d go to an amateur park.

50 threes a game in 2K would be insufferable. They might drive too much in the game but I’d rather that than constant threes. I prefer 2K trying to simulate real basketball with multitudes of offensive strategies. Not modern NBA three ball that which will inevitably have to be mitigated by higher ups as it continues to aid a ratings decline.

[jfsolo]

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Unfortunately they won't commit the time/resources necessary to fix all the tendencies for players and coaches(probably including having to rewrite some aspects of the game that is hardcoded) so the game will still reflect the NBA of the past to a large degree even with changes made by the User to ameliorate things.

[rjohns23]

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I hope not. If I wanted to watch a pickup game vibe with constant threes I’d go to an amateur park.



50 threes a game in 2K would be insufferable. They might drive too much in the game but I’d rather that than constant threes. I prefer 2K trying to simulate real basketball with multitudes of offensive strategies. Not modern NBA three ball that which will inevitably have to be mitigated by higher ups as it continues to aid a ratings decline.

I feel ya. But some people want to imulate how the game is played today which is 3pt shooting and more spread offense. Now this may not be ideal basketball but its how the game is today. And I'm pretty sure 2k knows this, thats why they have all these offensive badges.

We're probably 3-5 years away from the user being able to determine what simulation style they want the AI to play like. Such is 90s ball or current ball, and the AI will be hard-coded to play either style.

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[Smirkin Dirk]

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My roster has teams shooting 40. It kind of sucks it requires roster makers to do it.

[EccentricMeat]

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God I hope not. The current NBA on-court product is bad enough as it is with all the 3pt chucking. If it ever devolves to the point that a realistic game of 2K involves the CPU putting up 30 three pointers at the half I’d just uninstall and move on to something else.

[rjohns23]

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It's not the 30 3s at half but more so of the game (out of the box) playing like today's game. Everyone, (well majority who are sim heads like myself) kind of complain that we want simulation basketball which can mean different things to different people.

Some players may want a 90s era type of game and some may want a current style type of game. Just the way we know the game is "hard-coded" to attack the basket, they could probably do the same for threes, especially contested ones. And then we can adjust the sliders if we see its too much.

There's no reason we should have to raise the 3pt shooting slider to damn near 100 to get the CPU to take more threes. (or make other slider adjustments)

With roster editing and slider editing, (more so roster and playbook editing) Im able to get realistic game-like 3pt shooting by the AI but that can take weeks of editing and then with all the updates and patches, you would have to start back over at times or make slight adjustments to get it back right.... as we are seeing with the defense by the AI.

I'm really loving this game. But the 3 areas that it fall short or could improve on are:

*More 3pt attempts, even bad contested ones
*Non-live ball turnovers
*More fouls specifically shooting fouls

If they can get this correct I'll be a happy man, because I'm strictly a MyLeague/stats guy. It just pains me at times when I play five games in a row and each game both teams had less that 10 turnovers and less than 15 FT attempts.

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[tcnumba10]

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It's not the 30 3s at half but more so of the game (out of the box) playing like today's game. Everyone, (well majority who are sim heads like myself) kind of complain that we want simulation basketball which can mean different things to different people.

Some players may want a 90s era type of game and some may want a current style type of game. Just the way we know the game is "hard-coded" to attack the basket, they could probably do the same for threes, especially contested ones. And then we can adjust the sliders if we see its too much.

There's no reason we should have to raise the 3pt shooting slider to damn near 100 to get the CPU to take more threes. (or make other slider adjustments)

With roster editing and slider editing, (more so roster and playbook editing) Im able to get realistic game-like 3pt shooting by the AI but that can take weeks of editing and then with all the updates and patches, you would have to start back over at times or make slight adjustments to get it back right.... as we are seeing with the defense by the AI.

I'm really loving this game. But the 3 areas that it fall short or could improve on are:

*More 3pt attempts, even bad contested ones
*Non-live ball turnovers
*More fouls specifically shooting fouls

If they can get this correct I'll be a happy man, because I'm strictly a MyLeague/stats guy. It just pains me at times when I play five games in a row and each game both teams had less that 10 turnovers and less than 15 FT attempts.

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Yup the Default 2K Rosters are very poorly put together especially with player tendencies. It just seems that the roster person just watches 3min highlights of each team and just focus on All-Star players to get their usage high enough but they are way too dominant in the game. No effort was put in editing role players’ tendencies at all.

The Shot Attempts by All Star players in the Default 2K Roster is way too much compared to their real life counterpart and the shot distribution among the teammates is laughable.

[loungefly85]

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Hell Utah averaged 43 attempts last season.

Growing up with Stockton and Malone, this phrase just seems weird,

[AIRJ23]

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Funny thing as well, speaking of Stockton, is how much guys like him would extra excel in a league where all you need to do on offense is chuck threes. There were mad sharpshooters back in the day who would kill the game if they were allowed to shoot 15 threes a game. Imagine Mark Price in a league where he can just loiter at the three point line and throw up anything from uncontested to stupidly contested threes and not be chewed out by the coach. Draw fouls by kicking his leg out.

It’s such an easy league now. Luka said himself, the NBA is the easiest league in the world to score in. Not even delving into rules designed to make scoring simple, but right now essentially, with very slight exceptions, the better shooter you are + the more attempts you’re allotted by the team itself, the more points you score. It’s that simple right now.

Steve Kerr and Pop and all coaches say that these days ALL players practice in the off season is three pointers. Why even have a 48 minute game. They’d probably get the same or better ratings with 82 three point contests a year at the rate they’re going.

Oh and get off my lawn.

[Mikelopedia]

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To answer the OPs question,
Yes, you can greatly increase CPU 3 point attempts by editing player tendencies in your roster.
The ones you'd want to focus on are
3 point off of spot up
3 point off of screen (these 2 are next to each other)
Contested 3
Transition pull up 3
Drive pull up 3
Stepback 3
Play discipline