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[zello144]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opn0fYqfwdg

Pretty interesting podcast with Vladimir Guerrero Sr. But it's in spanish.

[Majingir]

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Padres Tucupita Marcano facing lifetime ban for betting on games last year when with the Pirates. He allegedly bet on games when he was injured.

4 minor leaguers also under investigation for betting on MLB games.

David Fletcher also being investigated for betting using the same bookie as Ohtanis interpreter.

Something really needs to be done about all of this because we're just gonna keep hearing more and more stories about this.

Haven't followed NFL news on this matter, but we've had an NHL player suspended (with the league seemingly trying to cover it up), an NBA player banned, now possibly multiple MLB players banned. All in less than a 9 month timespan.

Just wait until it's some all star player in a sport, then the league will do something, because if you're just suspending/banning borderline main roster guys, that won't be cared as much.

[LambertandHam]

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Padres Tucupita Marcano facing lifetime ban for betting on games last year when with the Pirates. He allegedly bet on games when he was injured.

4 minor leaguers also under investigation for betting on MLB games.

David Fletcher also being investigated for betting using the same bookie as Ohtanis interpreter.

Something really needs to be done about all of this because we're just gonna keep hearing more and more stories about this.

Haven't followed NFL news on this matter, but we've had an NHL player suspended (with the league seemingly trying to cover it up), an NBA player banned, now possibly multiple MLB players banned. All in less than a 9 month timespan.

Just wait until it's some all star player in a sport, then the league will do something, because if you're just suspending/banning borderline main roster guys, that won't be cared as much.

tbh betting on the Pirates is pretty easy

[Master Live 013]

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This is something being done, facing a lifetime ban. Drop the hammer Manfred, zero tolerance if true.

[Majingir]

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This is something being done, facing a lifetime ban. Drop the hammer Manfred, zero tolerance if true.

But it always begs the question, if this were an all star, would they face the same consequences?

We have yet to see a big name in MLB or NBA in the modern era get caught for this.

The biggest in general is probably Shane Pinto in the NHL and he only got half a season because the NHL is soft. His MLB comparison in terms of where he is would be maybe some 23 year old rookie hitting .250 or something while playing the entire season. Even that's not a "notable name" within his sport.

[Majingir]

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Marcano banned for life. 387 total bets made, 87k placed on bets.

As Michael Kelly, Padres Jay Groome, Phillies Jose Rodriguez and DBacks Andrew Saalfrank all suspended 1 year.

Kelly would've been a valuable trade chip. 31 year old reliever with a 2.59ERA in 31IP so far.

[kehlis]

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tbh betting on the Pirates is pretty easy

And he still only won slightly over 4% of his bets lol. What a total fail all around.

The dude from the A’s won like a couple hundred dollars or something minimal compared to his near million dollar salary for the year. What idiots.


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[slickdtc]

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But it always begs the question, if this were an all star, would they face the same consequences?

We have yet to see a big name in MLB or NBA in the modern era get caught for this.

The biggest in general is probably Shane Pinto in the NHL and he only got half a season because the NHL is soft. His MLB comparison in terms of where he is would be maybe some 23 year old rookie hitting .250 or something while playing the entire season. Even that's not a "notable name" within his sport.

Calvin Ridley is probably the most notable name to get popped for betting across sports over the last bunch of years. He was suspended a year, got traded, played a season then signed a monster free agent deal with Tennessee. Not sure the details of betting (on what sports, which teams, where they did it, etc).

I imagine baseball will have the strongest hammer of the sports considering their history with betting, but unless it’s wildly flagrant, most leagues seem content with a year suspension for first time offenders.

I really want to know how these guys get caught, the whole process / investigation. Geofencing stuff, I assume (for location).Then just any type of action that’s out of the norm raises a flag. But would be interesting to see how it’s tracked back to the culprit.

[Majingir]

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Calvin Ridley is probably the most notable name to get popped for betting across sports over the last bunch of years. He was suspended a year, got traded, played a season then signed a monster free agent deal with Tennessee. Not sure the details of betting (on what sports, which teams, where they did it, etc).

I imagine baseball will have the strongest hammer of the sports considering their history with betting, but unless it’s wildly flagrant, most leagues seem content with a year suspension for first time offenders.

I really want to know how these guys get caught, the whole process / investigation. Geofencing stuff, I assume (for location).Then just any type of action that’s out of the norm raises a flag. But would be interesting to see how it’s tracked back to the culprit.

Given how few have been caught when you have to figure many more do it, I'd imagine it's something as simple as someone betting using the WiFi within the venue (venues have diff WiFi for fans, employees, players/locker rooms and so on) which triggers an alert with the team or someone else like that.

Or if they're stupid enough (aka Jontay Porter) to request a specific guy to bet on and/or place suspiciously big bets on guys, that'll raise flags.

Betting services do ban people if they suspect insider activity. I know someone who won so often that they got banned because they were thought to be a staff member or media member who had insider info.

For all you know the leagues are in on it too. Being like "if you suspect suspicious activity within our leagues bets, let us know" and the company probably gives the name(s) of anyone on that suspicious list for the league to see if they're affiliated with teams in any way.

[LambertandHam]

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And he still only won slightly over 4% of his bets lol. What a total fail all around.

The dude from the A’s won like a couple hundred dollars or something minimal compared to his near million dollar salary for the year. What idiots.


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Yeah, saw the stat line for what he was betting and what he lost. Even lost all his Pirate bets

[dubcity]

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For all you know the leagues are in on it too. Being like "if you suspect suspicious activity within our leagues bets, let us know" and the company probably gives the name(s) of anyone on that suspicious list for the league to see if they're affiliated with teams in any way.

Plus, do we trust the media to really go after this? If you are a journalist, and you work for a company getting tons of ad money from gambling sites, are you really going to go all in on trying to dig to find these stories involving major stars? Or would you just sit back and watch these smaller ones pop up and report it and move on quickly. Maybe even chuckle about it, and cover it from the perspective of, "times change, they didn't bet against their own team while playing, what a knucklehead, on to the next story."

We're only in the infancy of sports betting being legit and in our face constantly, and the money is only going to get bigger and bigger. California hasn't even legalized it yet. And the media needs the ad revenue and partnerships. I 100% don't trust them. It's a cynical take, but then again do we believe journalists are becoming or less trustworthy as the years go by?

[slickdtc]

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Plus, do we trust the media to really go after this? If you are a journalist, and you work for a company getting tons of ad money from gambling sites, are you really going to go all in on trying to dig to find these stories involving major stars? Or would you just sit back and watch these smaller ones pop up and report it and move on quickly. Maybe even chuckle about it, and cover it from the perspective of, "times change, they didn't bet against their own team while playing, what a knucklehead, on to the next story."

We're only in the infancy of sports betting being legit and in our face constantly, and the money is only going to get bigger and bigger. California hasn't even legalized it yet. And the media needs the ad revenue and partnerships. I 100% don't trust them. It's a cynical take, but then again do we believe journalists are becoming or less trustworthy as the years go by?

This post will probably be prophetic. 50/50 chance. [emoji6]

The leagues are in bed with the gambling sites, who are in bed with the networks, who are in bed with the leagues.

Pretty funny operation they’ve got going on.

[Majingir]

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Plus, do we trust the media to really go after this? If you are a journalist, and you work for a company getting tons of ad money from gambling sites, are you really going to go all in on trying to dig to find these stories involving major stars? Or would you just sit back and watch these smaller ones pop up and report it and move on quickly. Maybe even chuckle about it, and cover it from the perspective of, "times change, they didn't bet against their own team while playing, what a knucklehead, on to the next story."

We're only in the infancy of sports betting being legit and in our face constantly, and the money is only going to get bigger and bigger. California hasn't even legalized it yet. And the media needs the ad revenue and partnerships. I 100% don't trust them. It's a cynical take, but then again do we believe journalists are becoming or less trustworthy as the years go by?

Plus, the betting services would WANT to get guys in trouble too, specifically the ones profiting big which results in money out of the services pocket. Cut down on the guys betting and possibly influencing the odds/results, or even guys betting on games they're not in, don't you think they might at least know the health and condition of their teammates?

If I'm betting and I know one of my teammates is only scheduled to pitch 4 innings in his start today, I'm taking the under on stats like strikeouts and obviously innings pitched.

That's why I find betting on certain things to be so ridiculous. Saying who'll win is one thing, but betting on things you could very well know ahead of time the situation is crazy. All star game coming up next month for instance. Chances are certain guys are on inning limits. If you know what that limit is, you know how to bet.

[Ghost Of The Year]

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I won't trust pro sports until all athletes are forced by their league to bet their paycheck on every one of their teams games. [/Facetious]

[DrJones]

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Plus, do we trust the media to really go after this? If you are a journalist, and you work for a company getting tons of ad money from gambling sites, are you really going to go all in on trying to dig to find these stories involving major stars? Or would you just sit back and watch these smaller ones pop up and report it and move on quickly. Maybe even chuckle about it, and cover it from the perspective of, "times change, they didn't bet against their own team while playing, what a knucklehead, on to the next story."

We're only in the infancy of sports betting being legit and in our face constantly, and the money is only going to get bigger and bigger. California hasn't even legalized it yet. And the media needs the ad revenue and partnerships. I 100% don't trust them. It's a cynical take, but then again do we believe journalists are becoming or less trustworthy as the years go by?

Yes, I do. Considering the LA Times and ESPN (an MLB partner) broke the Ohtani/Ippei story in March, prior to MLB or the Dodgers taking any action, I'm not particularly concerned with "the media" burying major gambling scandals.