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  • Yrogergj24
    MVP
    • Feb 2011
    • 1102

    #1

    Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

    Let's play a fun game I have come up with, where we will debate and get the opinion of the forums. Read the rules before posting

    RULES
    1. Every 3 days or so (May be longer or shorter depending on the closeness of the vote) I will post the name of a player either currently playing or recently retired.
    2. Make a post stating and explaining your views on this player
    3. Have fun and debate people who you don't agree with
    4. At the end of the poll, I will tally up the votes and put the results below in the spoiler


    Current Player: Brian Urlacher

    Past Results Yes-No
    Spoiler
    Last edited by Yrogergj24; 01-07-2013, 08:16 PM.
  • z Revis
    Hall Of Fame
    • Oct 2008
    • 13639

    #2
    Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

    Good thread, I like it.

    I'll start...

    I do not think Steven Jackson is a Hall of Famer. He's a good player and has been a top 10 back for most of his career, but never in any year did I consider him to be THE best RB in the league, and really not even top 3. He hasn't had any outstanding statistical year, no type of record breaking year, etc. Furthermore, I think it hurts his case that the Rams have only made the Playoffs I think one time(in '04 I believe) since he's been with him.
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    • Yrogergj24
      MVP
      • Feb 2011
      • 1102

      #3
      Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

      Originally posted by z Revis
      Good thread, I like it.

      I'll start...

      I do not think Steven Jackson is a Hall of Famer. He's a good player and has been a top 10 back for most of his career, but never in any year did I consider him to be THE best RB in the league, and really not even top 3. He hasn't had any outstanding statistical year, no type of record breaking year, etc. Furthermore, I think it hurts his case that the Rams have only made the Playoffs I think one time(in '04 I believe) since he's been with him.
      Thanks, I just hope it generates enough interest to be a viable recurring thread.

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      • LoSoisNiCEx414
        MVP
        • Sep 2010
        • 1162

        #4
        Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

        Donald Driver? I say yes

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        • wwharton
          *ll St*r
          • Aug 2002
          • 26949

          #5
          Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

          Originally posted by LoSoisNiCEx414
          Donald Driver? I say yes
          I guess Steven Jackson sort of sounds like Donald Driver?

          Interested to see how this goes but it definitely won't work if you completely ignore the point.

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          • RoundingThird
            Leyenda
            • Aug 2012
            • 3468

            #6
            Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

            Next player you do should be Ray Lewis, but the answer is obvious.
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            • Kaiser Wilhelm
              MVP
              • Sep 2010
              • 2790

              #7
              Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

              I do not consider Steven Jackson a HOF. He just has not been a total standout in his career. He is in the Hall of Very Good with guys like McNabb.
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              • wwharton
                *ll St*r
                • Aug 2002
                • 26949

                #8
                Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

                Originally posted by Kaiser Wilhelm
                I do not consider Steven Jackson a HOF. He just has not been a total standout in his career. He is in the Hall of Very Good with guys like McNabb.
                Since I posted I should answer the question...

                I think he has HOF talent but it takes a lot for a RB's talent to vault a team to the success needed to make them a HOFer without help. So unfortunately, I don't think he belongs.

                I quoted you bc I don't even think he is as close as McNabb and his 4 NFCC appearances and 1 SB appearance.

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                • Kaiser Wilhelm
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 2790

                  #9
                  Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

                  Originally posted by wwharton
                  Since I posted I should answer the question...

                  I think he has HOF talent but it takes a lot for a RB's talent to vault a team to the success needed to make them a HOFer without help. So unfortunately, I don't think he belongs.

                  I quoted you bc I don't even think he is as close as McNabb and his 4 NFCC appearances and 1 SB appearance.
                  Are you sure it is not because you just have it out for me today?

                  Also, to add to Steven Jackson, he just has not been the caliber of runningback that truly carries a team all the way to the playoffs. If the Rams had more playoff appearances it would help him much more.
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                  • mpeterso
                    Rookie
                    • May 2006
                    • 146

                    #10
                    Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

                    Steven Jackson has been a very good NFL player, but barring a late career explosion, or at least 4-5 more seasons similar to his career average, I don't think he will make it. While he's a 3 time pro bowler, 2 time all-pro and led the league in yards from scrimmage in 2006, he only finished in the top 5 for rushing yards two seasons, and never in the top 10 for TDs. Further, while he's hit the 10,000 yards rushing mark for his career (he currently ranks 26th all time) he is only 121st all time for TDs.

                    On the other hand, one major positive for Jackson is how consistently good he's been on a mostly awful Rams team. He probably deserves more credit just for basically carrying the Rams for the past 5-6 seasons. However, the irony is the Rams inability to produce around him is going to hurt his chances because his red zone touches have been so limited by their weak offences the past few seasons.

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                    • elgreazy1
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 2996

                      #11
                      Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

                      Drew Brees

                      I think no. Many think a SB ring is automatic for QBs entering the HOF, but I feel when his time comes there may be a stockpile of QBs with similar astronomical stats thus further diminishing his accomplishments. In fact, the same could be said for a lot of QBs in this era thanks to rule changes and how the game is played.

                      EDIT:
                      Apologies. Reading comprehension was not my friend yesterday.

                      As for Jackson, no way. As great a player as he is he simply doesn't have the stats, accolades, nor post-season success to put him into the HOF. It makes me wonder what will be the criteria for RBs to enter the HOF in the future with the league changing; I'd assume future RBs will be weighed on total yardage more than run production.
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                      • SPTO
                        binging
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 68046

                        #12
                        Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

                        Originally posted by elgreazy1
                        Drew Brees

                        I think no. Many think a SB ring is automatic for QBs entering the HOF, but I feel when his time comes there may be a stockpile of QBs with similar astronomical stats thus further diminishing his accomplishments. In fact, the same could be said for a lot of QBs in this era thanks to rule changes and how the game is played.
                        Ahem, pay attention to the first post....


                        Anyways, I see Steven Jackson in the Hall of Very Good. He's had some really good seasons and you can count on him to be productive for the most part but the combination of being on a crappy STL team and the fact that he isn't very flashy at all makes it tough for him.
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                        • njdevils14
                          Pro
                          • May 2012
                          • 611

                          #13
                          This looks cool if people follow the rules:
                          As for Jackson: I would say no, if you compare to even some of the RB's in his era he is not HOF worthy IMO.

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                          • 55
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 20857

                            #14
                            Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

                            A big NO on Steven Jackson from me as well. He is pretty much the epitome of an accumulator that only really had one fantastic year (2006) and a bunch of decent ones. Eight straight 1,000 yard seasons is very nice in and of itself, but on the whole I just don't think of his as an all-time great. A guy like Warrick Dunn has very similar career stats and I have never heard anyone claim him to be Hall of Fame bound so I say the same for Jackson.

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                            • ImTellinTim
                              YNWA
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 33028

                              #15
                              Re: Is (Insert Player Here) A Hall of Famer?

                              No for me as well on Mr. Jackson. He's had himself a very nice career given the amount of carries he has had over the years. However, he just never stepped it up and had that stretch of elite play it takes to become a Hall of Famer. He had one standout season to me - 2006. And that was a great season. He's an absolute rock of an athlete, but falls short of the Hall for me.

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