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dbeth · 12-29-2002, 05:35 PM

"The fact that only an "exclusive" group was allowed to play is another strike against declaring any of those years "legitimate" championships."

Hmmm....so the Yankees run in the 1920s is not a "legitimate" championship by your rules then, huh?

The NFL and AFL merged in 1970 after the 4th NFL-AFL Championship (Super Bowl IV). Thus, 2 of the Packers 3 "Super Bowl" Championships you keep harping about were actually determined BEFORE the Super Bowl (1967 and 1968).

By saying "Green Bay Packers: 12-Time NFL Champions", it means the same as saying "Boston Celtics: 16-Time NBA Champions." Sure the ABA existed in the '70s, but the Celtics still won the NBA title, like the Packers won the NFL title.

The run of 8 NBA titles in a row that the Celtics won was during a time with only something like 12 teams in the league; just like when the Packers won NFL titles in the 1930s. BUT, both teams won the titles of THEIR LEAGUE at the time. It just so happens that the Super Bowl is the end-all to the NFL title NOW, but the NFL title in the early 1960s was determined by its own championship game.

Back in the '60s, the AFL was a "minor" league by all accounts. The only reason the NFL recognizes those records at all is because they merged. But to the people then, the NFL title was the "true" title, just like no one today would say the LA Extreme's title from the XFL was 'equal' to the Raven's title in SB XXXV. But now, if there was an NFL-XFL championship game......

12-29-2002, 05:35 PM	#35
dbeth MVP OVR: 21 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Wisconsin Blog Entries: 5	Re: Cowboys blah blah 5 superbowls 49\'s blah blah 5 superbowls "The fact that only an "exclusive" group was allowed to play is another strike against declaring any of those years "legitimate" championships." Hmmm....so the Yankees run in the 1920s is not a "legitimate" championship by your rules then, huh? The NFL and AFL merged in 1970 after the 4th NFL-AFL Championship (Super Bowl IV). Thus, 2 of the Packers 3 "Super Bowl" Championships you keep harping about were actually determined BEFORE the Super Bowl (1967 and 1968). By saying "Green Bay Packers: 12-Time NFL Champions", it means the same as saying "Boston Celtics: 16-Time NBA Champions." Sure the ABA existed in the '70s, but the Celtics still won the NBA title, like the Packers won the NFL title. The run of 8 NBA titles in a row that the Celtics won was during a time with only something like 12 teams in the league; just like when the Packers won NFL titles in the 1930s. BUT, both teams won the titles of THEIR LEAGUE at the time. It just so happens that the Super Bowl is the end-all to the NFL title NOW, but the NFL title in the early 1960s was determined by its own championship game. Back in the '60s, the AFL was a "minor" league by all accounts. The only reason the NFL recognizes those records at all is because they merged. But to the people then, the NFL title was the "true" title, just like no one today would say the LA Extreme's title from the XFL was 'equal' to the Raven's title in SB XXXV. But now, if there was an NFL-XFL championship game......