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  • Joborule
    EA Game Changer
    • Sep 2005
    • 436

    #31
    Re: new madden 09 trailer

    Phil posted this at EA Forums as well, so give feedback there as well if you have an account. He may directly reply.



    I posted this:

    A con I noticed;

    At 1:07, the Giants line faced a 3-4 with the RB coming up the 3 hole. There was two TE on the play, therefore all the players had a defender man up. Pretty simple blocking right?

    Well instead, the TE on the left went to the DE that was head up on the left guard, leaving the left (on the screen) outside lineback free to get the RB right when he gets the ball.

    This is the type of stuff I'm talking about that killed Madden for me. The idoitic AI like that. YOU ALWAYS TAKE THE MAN UP!!! It's that simple. Why is my TE going off to block a defender that's man up on someone else? ESPECIALLY when the handoff is to his side of the field. Him doing a proper block would have change what was a loss of yards to a gain of yards.

    Not impressed. I understand it happening to someone who has low AWR, but even still, it would be VERY RARE we should see that, because that's what get players cut from High School football for god sake.

    Don't know what to say about the pass blocking yet so I'll shut up for that. I just hope the AI actually be in position for a proper pocket.

    As for pros,

    Presentation is better the last year easily. Would like to see the WHOLE starting lineup rather then weapons though.

    Graphics look nice.

    The collision animations seem smoother.

    The Break-away camera is a nice touch, so is the user celebrations.

    Overall, it's the con of stupid AI blocking wise I still see that I'm not impressed with.
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    • ColumbusKilled
      Banned
      • Jul 2004
      • 431

      #32
      Re: new madden 09 trailer

      Ask him why the lineman AI consists of standing up as soon as the play begins. They don't exhibit pass or run blocking whatsoever. Only when one animation collides into another do they even begin to do anything resembling blocking.

      Offensive lineman should be exploding into the defensive line. I didn't see one lineman pulling.

      It's like they are doing a screen pass blocking scheme every play.

      Again I ask:

      How bad could things look before you guys (IE those who are day one purchasers no matter what) said "Wow, this really just isn't that good"?

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      • blackngoldfan
        MVP
        • Jul 2004
        • 1050

        #33
        Re: new madden 09 trailer

        Originally posted by Joborule
        Phil posted this at EA Forums as well, so give feedback there as well if you have an account. He may directly reply.



        I posted this:

        A con I noticed;

        At 1:07, the Giants line faced a 3-4 with the RB coming up the 3 hole. There was two TE on the play, therefore all the players had a defender man up. Pretty simple blocking right?

        Well instead, the TE on the left went to the DE that was head up on the left guard, leaving the left (on the screen) outside lineback free to get the RB right when he gets the ball.

        Would like to see the WHOLE starting lineup rather then weapons though.
        That was pretty dumb A.I., but can't you give that TE a blocking assignment with the pre-snap controls? (which was absent in the vid)

        As for the starting lineups, I think they will show the whole line ups if you wait for it to finish. I mean, if the playclock is running down, you would have to exit the lineup screen before getting penalized. Also, you know that both teams have more than 4 weapons on O and D. Mike Vrabel and Tedy Bruschi and some of the Giants O line would've been on the list if it only showed weapons.
        Last edited by blackngoldfan; 05-02-2008, 01:13 AM.

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        • blackngoldfan
          MVP
          • Jul 2004
          • 1050

          #34
          Re: new madden 09 trailer

          Originally posted by drlw322
          no i think it's a glitch. if you look on top of the overlay it saids milestone 4 TD, unless scoring 4 td in a season is a milestone.
          It isn't a glitch. The video skipped to the 2nd qtr after the fumble.

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          • drlw322
            MVP
            • Jun 2007
            • 1424

            #35
            Re: new madden 09 trailer

            Originally posted by blackngoldfan
            It isn't a glitch. The video skipped to the 2nd qtr after the fumble.
            the score was only 14 to 0 pats.
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            • blackngoldfan
              MVP
              • Jul 2004
              • 1050

              #36
              Re: new madden 09 trailer

              Originally posted by drlw322
              the score was only 14 to 0 pats.
              I stand corrected.

              EDIT: The 4 TD milestone tied his career high from this past season (Buffalo-Week 1)
              http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_id=29341
              Last edited by blackngoldfan; 05-02-2008, 02:08 AM.

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              • DLaren
                MVP
                • Sep 2006
                • 1476

                #37
                Re: new madden 09 trailer

                Looks very immersive...I only wish there wasn't any music playing so I could hear how the crowd reacts to what's happening on the field...

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                • SageInfinite
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 11896

                  #38
                  Re: new madden 09 trailer

                  Graphics and lighting look nice. Still not feeling the animations but the presentation is moving in the right direction. I'm more interested now.
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                  • 3bitz
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 1523

                    #39
                    Re: new madden 09 trailer

                    Originally posted by NovaStar
                    I saw absolutely no gang tackling. Other than that, the video was'nt too bad. The thing about Madden though is that once you actually play it the boredem sets in. The only sure way to know how serious ea is about the football game is when they release it and people actually play it. There is no other way to know for sure. ea, to me, has lost game player equity, only a great playing game will get it back.
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                    • K_GUN
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 3891

                      #40
                      Re: new madden 09 trailer

                      looks good....keep it coming


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                      • edubbs
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 2099

                        #41
                        Re: new madden 09 trailer

                        I like how they FINALLY have safeties in an up right position pre-snap, instead of being in that generic linebacker stance they have used for years.

                        Nice touch.....

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                        • Nza
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 3437

                          #42
                          Re: new madden 09 trailer

                          Not really seeing much new honestly. Lighting looks nice but the flow appears to be more or less the same as before, which IMO didn't capture the right 'feel'. The collisions and blocking still looks very unnatural.

                          Just once it would be nice to see an early Madden video where you couldn't see blatant issues appear with the blocking. Just once.

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                          • callmetaternuts
                            All Star
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 7045

                            #43
                            Re: new madden 09 trailer

                            I thought the game looked great in that video. The visuals are very nice. The game play is kinda meh. Apparently, NFL Coordinators have put 15 step drops in the playbook. Can we get a video of someone playing and not dropping back a mile?
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                            • adfletch71
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 727

                              #44
                              Re: new madden 09 trailer

                              It looks nice, but i still reserve judgement. I'm still concerned about the no refs on the field or goal nets. The sidelines look terrible and bland. What about the halftime show and post game? Is it going to be like last year when u get to the playoffs and superbowl, and its no excitment at all. These are the things that made 2k5 great and still going strong. I hope madden gets better, but until they get those little things, all play 2k5.

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                              • roadman
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                                • Aug 2003
                                • 26339

                                #45
                                Re: new madden 09 trailer

                                Originally posted by adfletch71
                                It looks nice, but i still reserve judgement. I'm still concerned about the no refs on the field or goal nets. The sidelines look terrible and bland. What about the halftime show and post game? Is it going to be like last year when u get to the playoffs and superbowl, and its no excitment at all. These are the things that made 2k5 great and still going strong. I hope madden gets better, but until they get those little things, all play 2k5.
                                FG nets are in this year. Refs are not in this year.

                                I don't know about the rest.

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