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Old 01-14-2009, 04:43 PM   #24
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Re: Stopping the Slant

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Originally Posted by thelasthurtknee
but ive never seen a good player use man and have any success as there base D. maybe a play here and there with safety help but its just to easy in my opinion. thats why i want to play youAlreadyknow and check this out. the second third read stuff im kinda lost on so i want to see that also. i only play heisman online which not only brings in better comp but the d plays alot tougher but it still often comes down to stick skills and i dont have to watch terrible middle school awarness by my D.

im interested not to prove anything to anyone but to see if i can learn something because i only throw man in depending on what the O formation is and if its read there is often nothing i can do about the catch but only the tackle. plus nothing makes me more mad than a 3 yard cross becoming 50 yards or a playaction to the fb with no one even close.

i know that we have one guy in our dyansty that runs man out of the 3-4 and plays decent against hums so i know it can be used with success but even he says he'll run it 80% against the cpu but about 40% against hums. i want to see this D. and what team do you play with? is your scheme one that you have to use a really good team or can it work with anyone? i think i know what you mean to a degree about the reads but are you switching guys as your reading or do you have a player that has no assignment that you use to float and read with?
1. The guy who said 80% against CPU and 40% against HUM is pretty much dead on to how I use man coverage.

2. You don't need a great team, but you need to have comparable talent in the secondary to the opponent and a LB who is within 5 points of SPD of the opposing HB and TE. This speed difference determines how much I shade the HB/TE/FB and how often I can roam freely. The better the cornerbacks in the secondary, the better this works. It is nearly impossible to run man defense with bad cornerbacks and I wouldn't suggest that to anyone.

3. I'll always control a player with no assignment to begin with and I guess you can call it "floating" after the snap. Most times there is a specific route I'm trying to stop and that's my first task as the roaming defender, then I'll either move to a secondary assignment (HB/TE in the flats) or roam into another WR's route.

I've tried running man with West Virginia for example and it failed miserably because their talent in the secondary is atrocious. With Ohio State or Florida State, I'm usually able to make stops and force turnovers. Those are elite teams as examples, but you get the point. I'm using 67 OVR UNLV in my online dynasty and can force turnovers in man defense because I've recruited some great cornerbacks.

Anyways, sent you a friend request: McFlurry84. Should be playing an OD game in a few minutes, but we can play whenever we're both on.
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