MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

[Chef Matt]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

Of course they didn't intend for this to happen. But it happend for whatever reason. Just like a plate of food at a restaurant that has a hair in it. Had the chef known it was in there, he wouldn't have sent it out.

Why would you ask the person who ordered it why they were eating it?

Who bears the responsibility regardless if it was an accident or not? Certainly not the customer. I just don't understand your reasoning.

This sentence is the key. As a chef I can relate LOL.
If I send out a steak and it gets eaten half and then a hair is found, the consumer 99% of the time sends it back AFTER they found the discrepency. They're not going to wait for everyone else to eat first before they cut into theirs. They are assured that I as the Chef have checked everything before I put the plate in the window for service.

Just a side note. I have never had a steak sent back because of a hair. LOL. I have had a steak sent back because it was too rare though.

[SaintDemure]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

Translation
Do extensive testing, and make the damn game right the first time.

I know they make mistakes, but it seems all these next gen games rely on these patches as a crutch. It's f-ing irritating.

[nomarhits400]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

Just curious... why did everyone rush to install the patch? Did the daytime schedules really bother you that much? Or was it just a reflex?

I guess my response to that would be should we have expected the patch to make the game worse than before?......Shame on me I guess.

[Yanks1971]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

I obviously can't answer your question.

But the comments on the forums would lead you to believe some don't agree with the part in bold.

It's no different than when they released the game with a bug in the first place. It is software, and all the time and "QA" in the world can't cover all your bases.

No pun intended, of course.

Geez do you work for SCEA or something ..


Are you telling us that they never knew this would happen ...Of course they knew it was going to happen . Did they intend for it to happen ? Well you decide ....

This doesn't bother me because I'm an adult and have other things to worry about but there are a lot of people that have a lot of time invested .

What they should done is communicated this better to the public . They communicated the changes but never said anything about franchises and RTTS crashing ..

Don't be so gullible, McFly....


Let me ask a question .... If they told you your game would crash would you have downloaded the patch ? Depends on where you were at the time ..

Any its all mute ...

lets look forward instead of back .

Chris

[Pared]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

I guess my response to that would be should we have expected the patch to make the game worse than before?......Shame on me I guess.

No, but what was the hurry to update? It's a simple question.

I'm actually surprised it took this long for someone to accuse me of working for Sony, facetiously or not. Quite the cliché, but the predictability of the responses on OS is always welcome.

Perspective, gentleman.

[DrUrsus]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

Not sure I understand the thinking behind your question. The patch was meant to fix FAR more than the schedules. If you look at the list, it was supposed to fix the Roster Control, farm director issues, statistical discrepancies, RTTS freezes, issues with going into video saves, online issues, etc. It's actually an extensive list.

Plus, it's normal reaction to install a patch to a game when it comes out...normaly no reason not too (I guess this would fall somewhere in the neighborhood of your "reflex" idea), especially when some where hoping for the fixes to allow them to go forward in RTTS. The communication on whether or not it would be safe was unclear as well (not placing blame, it's likely SCEA didn't know for sure themselves. Just pointing out that it was impossible to know the patch would goof some peoples games).

It's just a very, very rare thing indeed for a fix to be an actual detriment to files already in progress. To not fix prior files is one thing (actually quite common), but it is unfortunate that it screwed with prior saves. Hopefully things will go smoother in the future all around.

Yep, plus if you want to play online, download new SCEA rosters, you have no choice but to install the patch.

[DrUrsus]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

I pitched a 3 hit shut out against the Pirates and extended Brian McCann's hit streak to 10 games. I finish the game, and as I go to the loading screen back to the franchise menu, it freezes. Nothing I could do, so I had to restart my PS3.

I simmed the game because I couldn't play the same game twice. my Pitching was too spot on. So I simmed to get the closest result I could statistically.

The next game, I played one inning and did an in game save, to see if the game would save properly. When I clicked save and exit, the screen went black and I lost my inning. I tried this twice more, same result.

I came to the conclusion that there was no way around this, so I deleted the piece of s*** patch 1.06. I lost all my music cues in the process, and since I did every gave every single mlb player music, I lost a lot of time.

All I can do is roll up my sleeves, and redo all the cues and reassign the music once again.

I hate the fact my reliever innings are inaccurate while viewing stats in the bull pen, but I have no choice but to play without the broken patch. There is no way I am gonna restart my entire franchise. I just can't do that.

I thought I was the exception to the patch destroying pre-patch franchises. I was wrong. I waited a very long time to begin my franchise, and I just can't restart. If I still experience problems with my patch free franchise, I am afraid I am going to give up on this game. It saddens me, but I am sick and tired of starting and restarting and so on.

Good luck to everyone else.
This is a terrific game, but that crummy patch really disappointed me. SCEA made a great game, but damn that stupid patch.

That's rough you have to redo all the music stuff.
I held off on that due to the uncertainty of things.

[callmetaternuts]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

Any its all mute ...

I dont understand. It all doesnt talk? You turned off the volume? Or were you looking for the word moot


I kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid

Let's not get into a huge argument here on how and what SCEA did, at this point we know they have a damn fine game, and a less than stellar patch.

They are in the business of making money, as is EA and Take Two/2k, perhaps they should all be reviewed the same way. This isnt the PR they wanted, and hopefully everything pans out. Its unfotunate but not unprecedented.

[DrUrsus]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

I thought I had escaped the post patch drama but now my franchise has been stricken. No replays for me. Sigh...I'm still loving the game though, just amazed that a patch could make it worse.

There have been 2 games now where I didn't get replays and got weird replays in the vault.

It seemed to happen (for me at least) when I pressed X when they were showing a highlight for a player in-game (like when someone hit a HR earlier and then came up to bat later) and/or when I pressed X at the end of the game to skip past things. So, try not pressing X in those cases.
It may not work for you, but so far that has kept my replays working.

[Yanks1971]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

I dont understand. It all doesnt talk? You turned off the volume? Or were you looking for the word moot


I kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid

Let's not get into a huge argument here on how and what SCEA did, at this point we know they have a damn fine game, and a less than stellar patch.

They are in the business of making money, as is EA and Take Two/2k, perhaps they should all be reviewed the same way. This isnt the PR they wanted, and hopefully everything pans out. Its unfotunate but not unprecedented.

Yeah moot .... yeah

[ewto16]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

No, but what was the hurry to update? It's a simple question.

I'm actually surprised it took this long for someone to accuse me of working for Sony, facetiously or not. Quite the cliché, but the predictability of the responses on OS is always welcome.

Perspective, gentleman.

Why would I not update? Why would I assume my game would be broken by a patch? Wouldn't I assume that a patch would make it better?

Outside of all the other reasons stated for updating by others, how about that I don't want to get asked to update everytime I play the game? What about if I don't come to the OS site and know there are issues with the patch, which I didn't know about even though I do come here often.

Given the excellent track record of the devs, I would expect good things from the patch.

Your question really doesn't make any sense and if you only had 3 posts, people would probably call you a troll.

[masterkembo]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

No, but what was the hurry to update? It's a simple question.

I'm actually surprised it took this long for someone to accuse me of working for Sony, facetiously or not. Quite the cliché, but the predictability of the responses on OS is always welcome.

Perspective, gentleman.

That is quite the classic response. Almost as classic as "Well, if you don't like it go play 2k..." I digress..

There was no hurry to patch for me anyway. I had no major problems with the game prepatch but...it was available, so why not patch? (I hate answering a question with a question but it seems appropriate right now).

SCEA sent out a list of fixes and I was kind of excited for a couple of them (especially the no RTTS september crash) so there didn't seem to be a point to not getting the patch. In retrospective, that was a mistake.

[pfunk880]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

Just curious... why did everyone rush to install the patch? Did the daytime schedules really bother you that much? Or was it just a reflex?

When has a patch ever made things worse? On top of that, SCEA has generally done a great job with The Show series, so of all developers, they are the last ones whose patches I would be leery of. Why wouldn't people download it when the game prompts you to?

And, as other people have mentioned, there were many more fixes than just the schedule. I guess that proves you don't work for them.

I guess my response to that would be should we have expected the patch to make the game worse than before?......Shame on me I guess.

Yes, shame on you.

Your question really doesn't make any sense and if you only had 3 posts, people would probably call you a troll.

That's a valid point... Pared, I'm still trying to figure out what exactly you were trying to accomplish with your original question.

[Pared]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

When has a patch ever made things worse?

Bethesda recently did this with Fallout 3.

But I digress. Carry on.

[nomarhits400]

Re: MLB 09: The Show Patch Released 4/27/09 - Impressions and Discussion Here

No, but what was the hurry to update? It's a simple question.

I'm actually surprised it took this long for someone to accuse me of working for Sony, facetiously or not. Quite the cliché, but the predictability of the responses on OS is always welcome.

Perspective, gentleman.

I think I understand your point- but I am not too sure what this has to do with perspective? Are you saying we should have suspected that in addition to the patch not addressing certain in-game issues (which is common) we should have also anticipated a patch which broke otherwise operable game features?

There's two sides to that coin. I would only be that paranoid about a company that has proven to me that it's incapable of providing adequate services. SCEA to me is certainly not in that category, nor would I think they would ever wish to be. Further, for anyone who felt that way up front, I am skeptical that they would purchase the product to begin with.

My question to you is: Why not rush to update? This was a purportedly QA'd patch from a reputable company that does not have a history of shoddy quality- which this patch clearly was.

If you want to ask me if I will be more hesitant next time- I think you already know the answer to that question given recent developments.