Remember when this board had twice the traffic of Madden?

[FSU93]

Re: Remember when this board had twice the traffic of Madden?

I think it's the negativity, the whining, and the apparent lack of rational thought, personally. The game hasn't even come out yet and it's being touted as a bust and a failure already. You can't go two posts with seeing a post that bashes NCAA 10. So a lot of folks, myself included, don't spend a lot of time here anymore because the negativity is like being in a female form when they all have their periods. It stinks and I get no joy out of it.

This. I came here to see if there is any new E3 impressions. Just see "NCAA sucks, Madden is so much better, fire the NCAA devs."

[WisconsinSports414]

Re: Remember when this board had twice the traffic of Madden?

It's probably a combination of the things people have posted here in this thread about - the game being seen as lackluster, the criticism of the game and conflict that comes when dealing with those that like the game. But, I like to be optimistic...I'm thinking this year will be a big year for video game football and that next year, things will only get better. Dunno. We'll see.

[superjames1992]

Re: Remember when this board had twice the traffic of Madden?

I am going to love this year ncaa like I did 09. I am getting both madden and ncaa 10. Both of them are going to rock. But year it is asham to see this forum been with less people. But it should pick up once people get their hand on the demo in a few weeks.

I hope they do, but I feel like it is a bit presumptuous to start touting them as great games before they even touch the shelves. I also feel like it's a bit presumptuous to tout them as horrendous games before they hit the shelves.

People jump to conclusions too quickly.

[Crimsontide27]

Re: Remember when this board had twice the traffic of Madden?

Having been here for half a decade, I have seen trends come and go.

NCAA had the most traffic for a long time. However as time went on NCAA went downhill.

This year it seems Madden has made huge strides in improving their game, while NCAA appears to be more of the same. Devs have been here for a long time and as such, know what gammers want. Each and every year NCAA has managed to disappoint in same major fashion one way or the other.

As time has gone by, people have begun to realize we are fighting a losing battle with the current NCAA dev team. For the past 5 years I have been here most posts have been prefaced with the phrase " well maybe next year" . Its finally taken its toll on me and I no longer care.

I have watched gaming evolve as a whole over the last 5 years or so, and at the same time I have watched NCAA football move in reverse.

Now when you come to the NCAA boards there are primarly 2 different groups. 1 group will complain about certain aspects of the game, and the other group will spend another 1000 posts trying to explain why maybe we should just " wait till next year"

This forum is very predictable. As such, watch me predict the future.

1) Closer to release there will be a 1000+ post thread on "When and where did you get it thread"

2) 300 of those posts will be " What is "soandsos" ratings.

3) Someone will get the game early and do an impressions thread and proclaim it to be the greatest NCAA game ever.

4) Naysayers will follow that thread and find faults and bugs and be told almost immediatly by a mod to cease complaing or risk a " time out" from the forums.

5) After the impressions thread has gone about 1000+ posts proclaiming it to be the next Jesus, it will be locked and moved because the rest of the peanut gallery has the game.

6) After the peanut gallery has the game you will see that everyone that had a gripe about the game was right in one form or another and that everyone that trolled them in the impressions forum saying it was an " alpha build" , earlier than "release build" , and that they should wait until the "retail version" is really released...will then concede they were wrong and hopefully " next year " it will be fixed.

7) Repeat around June 2010....

[lostintravise]

Re: Remember when this board had twice the traffic of Madden?

I can tell you why the Madden board is getting more attention than the NCAA board EVEN THOUGH NCAA is coming out sooner: the Madden team has done a better job. They are announcing better things which thus makes more people interested. I love the excuses you NCAA die-hards are on about: "the negativity of these boards is driving people away".. you ever think why everyone is negative? Maybe because the NCAA team gave us SEASON SHOWDOWN and the Madden team gave us PRO-TAK?! I especially loved this reasoning:

"I think it's because of the growth of OS. Most of the longtime members here preferred NCAA, but we've seen a ton of newbies in the last year on this site and most of them seem to be Madden fans, as it is in the general public where Madden sells far more copies."


haha! Are you joking? Madden fans = newbies? Is that what I'm seeing here? Yeah right. Why don't you try this one out for size, NCAA is going moving in the direction that EA Sports Football has been moving since they moved to next gen: features for the casual instead of gameplay for the hardcore. I'll garuntee you that if the NCAA team does this crap again next year -- waste their time on AWFUL features -- the NCAA boards won't even be a third of what the Madden boards are.

I'm still trying to understand why the Madden team has turned it around but the NCAA team is moving in the same direction as always. Why is it that the NCAA team did not get the message that we don't care about stupid features or perks and we want a quality FOOTBALL game before we want a crapp College Football one. It's really a joke and that is why I (as well as about 100 more other OSers at any given time) do not visit this board.

[shigogouhou]

Re: Remember when this board had twice the traffic of Madden?

I don't post much not because negativity is posted, but because the games have justified it. I burned a late Christmas present on 07 for my new 360 (not realizing how awful it was compared to the original Xbox version I already had), and I went to Wal-Mart to get 08 at midnight on release....only to go back 2 weeks later and swap it because the midnight-release discs weren't burned properly and would freeze up (mine jammed on the stadium load, so I couldn't play the game at all!).

It's hard to be optimistic when you've seen $120 go down the tubes in games you're embarrassed to admit you spent much time playing.

[TheRunAndShoot]

Re: Remember when this board had twice the traffic of Madden?

Having been here for half a decade, I have seen trends come and go.

NCAA had the most traffic for a long time. However as time went on NCAA went downhill.

This year it seems Madden has made huge strides in improving their game, while NCAA appears to be more of the same. Devs have been here for a long time and as such, know what gammers want. Each and every year NCAA has managed to disappoint in same major fashion one way or the other.

As time has gone by, people have begun to realize we are fighting a losing battle with the current NCAA dev team. For the past 5 years I have been here most posts have been prefaced with the phrase " well maybe next year" . Its finally taken its toll on me and I no longer care.

I have watched gaming evolve as a whole over the last 5 years or so, and at the same time I have watched NCAA football move in reverse.

Now when you come to the NCAA boards there are primarly 2 different groups. 1 group will complain about certain aspects of the game, and the other group will spend another 1000 posts trying to explain why maybe we should just " wait till next year"

This forum is very predictable. As such, watch me predict the future.

1) Closer to release there will be a 1000+ post thread on "When and where did you get it thread"

2) 300 of those posts will be " What is "soandsos" ratings.

3) Someone will get the game early and do an impressions thread and proclaim it to be the greatest NCAA game ever.

4) Naysayers will follow that thread and find faults and bugs and be told almost immediatly by a mod to cease complaing or risk a " time out" from the forums.

5) After the impressions thread has gone about 1000+ posts proclaiming it to be the next Jesus, it will be locked and moved because the rest of the peanut gallery has the game.

6) After the peanut gallery has the game you will see that everyone that had a gripe about the game was right in one form or another and that everyone that trolled them in the impressions forum saying it was an " alpha build" , earlier than "release build" , and that they should wait until the "retail version" is really released...will then concede they were wrong and hopefully " next year " it will be fixed.

7) Repeat around June 2010....

perfect. ive been lurking on here for probably about 2 years, rarely post. and was on gamefaqs for probably 5 years before that... this is exactly what every forum is like with the omission of maye #6 on gamefaqs

[WisconsinSports414]

Re: Remember when this board had twice the traffic of Madden?

Having been here for half a decade, I have seen trends come and go.

NCAA had the most traffic for a long time. However as time went on NCAA went downhill.

This year it seems Madden has made huge strides in improving their game, while NCAA appears to be more of the same. Devs have been here for a long time and as such, know what gammers want. Each and every year NCAA has managed to disappoint in same major fashion one way or the other.

As time has gone by, people have begun to realize we are fighting a losing battle with the current NCAA dev team. For the past 5 years I have been here most posts have been prefaced with the phrase " well maybe next year" . Its finally taken its toll on me and I no longer care.

I have watched gaming evolve as a whole over the last 5 years or so, and at the same time I have watched NCAA football move in reverse.

Now when you come to the NCAA boards there are primarly 2 different groups. 1 group will complain about certain aspects of the game, and the other group will spend another 1000 posts trying to explain why maybe we should just " wait till next year"

This forum is very predictable. As such, watch me predict the future.

1) Closer to release there will be a 1000+ post thread on "When and where did you get it thread"

2) 300 of those posts will be " What is "soandsos" ratings.

3) Someone will get the game early and do an impressions thread and proclaim it to be the greatest NCAA game ever.

4) Naysayers will follow that thread and find faults and bugs and be told almost immediatly by a mod to cease complaing or risk a " time out" from the forums.

5) After the impressions thread has gone about 1000+ posts proclaiming it to be the next Jesus, it will be locked and moved because the rest of the peanut gallery has the game.

6) After the peanut gallery has the game you will see that everyone that had a gripe about the game was right in one form or another and that everyone that trolled them in the impressions forum saying it was an " alpha build" , earlier than "release build" , and that they should wait until the "retail version" is really released...will then concede they were wrong and hopefully " next year " it will be fixed.

7) Repeat around June 2010....

This. It's true, and pretty hilarious as well.

[lostintravise]

Re: Remember when this board had twice the traffic of Madden?

OK so when has making in educated guess based on detailed info and gameplay pics and vids an "apparent lack of rational thought"?

+1 exactly. the community is only going to think off of what the DEV team gave us. Question to the person you're replying to:

This negativity that you see so much, why is it here other than the fact that Madden is going to be a better game? Do you think it's here because the NCAA anticipators are JUST DUMBER when they look at NCAA? Why is it that we collectively can see all of the GREAT and WORTHWHILE things in Madden but in NCAA we can't and are so lacking of rational thought? I think it is YOU who is lacking in rational thought because you are so comfortable with this POS that WILL BE NCAA 10. Get over yourself. The hoax has been exposed.

[TheRunAndShoot]

Re: Remember when this board had twice the traffic of Madden?

...Maybe because the NCAA team gave us SEASON SHOWDOWN and the Madden team gave us PRO-TAK?!...


I'm still trying to understand why the Madden team has turned it around but the NCAA team is moving in the same direction as always. Why is it that the NCAA team did not get the message that we don't care about stupid features or perks and we want a quality FOOTBALL game before we want a crapp College Football one. It's really a joke and that is why I (as well as about 100 more other OSers at any given time) do not visit this board.

what are you talking about season showdown looks to be one of the most revolutionary features in a sports game ever. who wouldn't like to prove to the world that their school has the most pride by competing in online trivia games and by exhibiting good sportsmanship in a video game.

saying that the NCAA team doesn't get the message is a bit unfair to say because the madden team is obviously bigger and has a larger budget and therefore can make bigger and better improvements. and the only way that the NCAA team feels that they can make a comparable product is to play the hand they're dealt and put in tacky features like season showdown. (OD was amazing last year though) I'm not trying to make an excuses for the NCAA team but so far it looks pretty obvious that madden is gonna poop on it this year.

[ty5oke]

Re: Remember when this board had twice the traffic of Madden?

Well I'm one that has contributed to the rising Madden #'s. I probably haven't visited that forum in 3+ years, until this year. I'm actually excited to play a new NFL game.

[da ThRONe]

Re: Remember when this board had twice the traffic of Madden?

what are you talking about season showdown looks to be one of the most revolutionary features in a sports game ever. who wouldn't like to prove to the world that their school has the most pride by competing in online trivia games and by exhibiting good sportsmanship in a video game.

saying that the NCAA team doesn't get the message is a bit unfair to say because the madden team is obviously bigger and has a larger budget and therefore can make bigger and better improvements. and the only way that the NCAA team feels that they can make a comparable product is to play the hand they're dealt and put in tacky features like season showdown. (OD was amazing last year though) I'm not trying to make an excuses for the NCAA team but so far it looks pretty obvious that madden is gonna poop on it this year.

This is why I would like to see the dev. team use they're resources on more substance and less fluff. They can work there way up to fluff like season showdown(and team builder IMO) once they have given us the core improvements we ask for.

[Sven Draconian]

Re: Remember when this board had twice the traffic of Madden?

For a lot of people '09 was was a tipping point. Next-Gen NCAA has been bad, but '09 was supposed to be a real change. And it was.

For the worse. Instead of giving us back user control like we wanted, they "awarded" us with wide-open gameplay. Perhaps the gimmick of all gimmicks it proved to a lot of people that the dev team either isn't interested or isn't capable of making a fun, balanced game (ala last-gen).

Couple that with the bugs for rosters early on and that game really lost people from the begginng.

Instead of correcting the last game, or atleast making that their main focus, we're getting "Season Showdown." It's useless to most of us, but more importantly, it just shows a complete and total disconnect to us "hardcore" gamers. You give us completely broken gameplay, and the remedy is season showdown. Collectively, a lot of us have said...

"Who gives a sh*t"

I only check this board because I'm interested in playing the demo still. I give myself a less than 25% chance of buying NCAA, because I loved the '09 demo (but, we didn't get that game). I'm just interested if they even pretended to add physics to the game.

[lostintravise]

Re: Remember when this board had twice the traffic of Madden?

For a lot of people '09 was was a tipping point. Next-Gen NCAA has been bad, but '09 was supposed to be a real change. And it was.

For the worse. Instead of giving us back user control like we wanted, they "awarded" us with wide-open gameplay. Perhaps the gimmick of all gimmicks it proved to a lot of people that the dev team either isn't interested or isn't capable of making a fun, balanced game (ala last-gen).

Couple that with the bugs for rosters early on and that game really lost people from the begginng.

Instead of correcting the last game, or atleast making that their main focus, we're getting "Season Showdown." It's useless to most of us, but more importantly, it just shows a complete and total disconnect to us "hardcore" gamers. You give us completely broken gameplay, and the remedy is season showdown. Collectively, a lot of us have said...

"Who gives a sh*t"

I only check this board because I'm interested in playing the demo still. I give myself a less than 25% chance of buying NCAA, because I loved the '09 demo (but, we didn't get that game). I'm just interested if they even pretended to add physics to the game.

+ freaking 1

[shigogouhou]

Re: Remember when this board had twice the traffic of Madden?

NCAA physics: objects in motion tend to stay in motion. Customers walking past NCAA 07-09 on the shelf tend to continue walking past in their search for a video game worth buying.