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  • onlybygrace
    MVP
    • Jan 2009
    • 3784

    #31
    Re: Hardcore Mode Blog Up

    Originally posted by Redshirt_EA
    It'll be interesting to see what the learning curve is like for the hardcore passing. For myself I learned it as the tuning of the system was being done, so it was changing day to day (and I got to tune it to my liking ) so I can't say how that will correspond to what most people experience. At first I was skeptical that it would be at all possible to play, but after a while I got used to it and now I can get into a flow where I'm hitting passes almost as well as with the assisted passing (which is quite a bit less forgiving too for NHL10 by default).

    I don't think hardcore passing will appeal to everyone, which is why it isn't the default, but I think those who want the extra control will love it.

    The CPU passing is no different if you turn on hardcore passing, however you can increase CPU pass error if you like to level the playing field.

    Thanks...good job this year.

    1000 posts...I'd like to thank my wife, my parents, and God of course...couldn't have done it without you guyz...oh...and all my fans...loyal bastards you are...and...what?...im a loser?...

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    • mdgoalie37
      MVP
      • Apr 2006
      • 1456

      #32
      Re: NHL 10 Blog: So You Think You're Hardcore?

      My biggest issue with 09 is right there in that hardcore video of the missed check - it's showed 10 times in a row. The sticks seem to pass right through each other as the check misses. Is collision detection fixed?
      "It's a dog-eat-dog world and I'm wearing Milk-Bone underwear."
      -- Norm Peterson

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      • onlybygrace
        MVP
        • Jan 2009
        • 3784

        #33
        Re: NHL 10 Blog: So You Think You're Hardcore?

        Originally posted by mdgoalie37
        My biggest issue with 09 is right there in that hardcore video of the missed check - it's showed 10 times in a row. The sticks seem to pass right through each other as the check misses. Is collision detection fixed?
        Well...you need to get right over that, dude. NO hockey game has ever had stick collision as the hardware we are playing on probably couldn't even compute something like that...plus the programming that would require would be insane.

        A lot of sports games have collision issues, and hockey has stick collision issues. Get over it.

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        • Qb
          All Star
          • Mar 2003
          • 8798

          #34
          Re: NHL 10 Blog: So You Think You're Hardcore?

          Originally posted by onlybygrace
          Well...you need to get right over that, dude. NO hockey game has ever had stick collision as the hardware we are playing on probably couldn't even compute something like that...plus the programming that would require would be insane.

          A lot of sports games have collision issues, and hockey has stick collision issues. Get over it.
          Easy, man. He raises a valid point and I thought the same thing watching that clip. You might be right that collision detection on that level may be a stretch, but there's no need to jump on someone for pointing something out.

          This demo needs to come out before we all lose our minds.

          ****

          And Redshirt, thanks for the input. If you can't tell, we're all just a tad excited to get our hands on this puppy. Keep up the good work...
          Last edited by Qb; 08-19-2009, 11:16 AM.

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          • RealmK
            Banned
            • Sep 2003
            • 4198

            #35
            Re: NHL 10 Blog: So You Think You're Hardcore?

            While I agree mgo, these consoles just don't have the ram to handle the calculations needed for perfect collision detection while keeping the game at 60 fps. When the Xbox 720 or Sony BluMedia Player 4 has a gig of dedicated ram rather than the 512/256 they have now, it'll be a sound arguement to make. Raw CPU processing power can only do so much without having RAM on the backend to help out.

            Back on topic, knowing now that we can set the demo to hardcore mode has given me a chubby. Figured you'd all like to know that.

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            • Nickflyers
              MVP
              • Oct 2008
              • 1858

              #36
              Re: NHL 10 Blog: So You Think You're Hardcore?

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              • mdgoalie37
                MVP
                • Apr 2006
                • 1456

                #37
                Re: NHL 10 Blog: So You Think You're Hardcore?

                Originally posted by onlybygrace
                Well...you need to get right over that, dude. NO hockey game has ever had stick collision as the hardware we are playing on probably couldn't even compute something like that...plus the programming that would require would be insane.

                A lot of sports games have collision issues, and hockey has stick collision issues. Get over it.
                Christ, lay off the attitude. I had tons of times when I saw collision issues with skates, legs, pucks and even the ice. I noticed this especially last year when they patched the penalty occurances. You would put yourself in position to stop the puck with your skate and the puck, your opponents leg and/or the blade of your opponents stick would pass right through your guy. It seemed, probably not reality, but seemed, to result in a goal against you 90% of the time.
                If a stick passes through a stick on occasion or even the above happened once in 10 games I wouldn't have any issues with it, but it happened way too often last season.
                "It's a dog-eat-dog world and I'm wearing Milk-Bone underwear."
                -- Norm Peterson

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                • Nickflyers
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 1858

                  #38
                  Re: Hardcore Mode Blog Up

                  Originally posted by onlybygrace
                  Thanks...good job this year.

                  1000 posts...I'd like to thank my wife, my parents, and God of course...couldn't have done it without you guyz...oh...and all my fans...loyal bastards you are...and...what?...im a loser?...

                  oh...okay...nevermind then.
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                  • Money99
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 12696

                    #39
                    Re: NHL 10 Blog: So You Think You're Hardcore?

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                    • Money99
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 12696

                      #40
                      Re: NHL 10 Blog: So You Think You're Hardcore?

                      Originally posted by RealmK
                      Now this is hockey. Guys losing control of the puck when turning too quick or an unskilled player trying to deke, total control of passing off the boards, the puck not automatically sucked to a player's stick when it goes near them. That little clip of a scrum along the boards was teh awesome as well. Very very impressed.
                      Agreed Realm!
                      This blog answered all my questions and concerns.

                      But I'm still TICKED that the demo is being released tomorrow. I'll be half way to Winnipeg instead of sitting on my couch playing this game myself.

                      All of you lucky SOB's better chime in with impressions as much as possible!

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                      • RealmK
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 4198

                        #41
                        Re: NHL 10 Blog: So You Think You're Hardcore?

                        Originally posted by Money99
                        Agreed Realm!
                        This blog answered all my questions and concerns.

                        But I'm still TICKED that the demo is being released tomorrow. I'll be half way to Winnipeg instead of sitting on my couch playing this game myself.

                        All of you lucky SOB's better chime in with impressions as much as possible!
                        That SNL skit was exactly how reading this blog made me feel, good find Hank. As far as I'm concerned we don't know its coming tomorrow for sure. Until I see a Major Nelson post that its up, or something actually confirmed through official sources, I'm leaning more towards this random IGN poster is just trying to pull a fast one on everyone. That being said, I hope it does indeed come this week, I'm still figuring it'll sit another week in MS cert before we see it though.

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                        • onlybygrace
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 3784

                          #42
                          Re: NHL 10 Blog: So You Think You're Hardcore?

                          Originally posted by mdgoalie37
                          Christ, lay off the attitude. I had tons of times when I saw collision issues with skates, legs, pucks and even the ice. I noticed this especially last year when they patched the penalty occurances. You would put yourself in position to stop the puck with your skate and the puck, your opponents leg and/or the blade of your opponents stick would pass right through your guy. It seemed, probably not reality, but seemed, to result in a goal against you 90% of the time.
                          If a stick passes through a stick on occasion or even the above happened once in 10 games I wouldn't have any issues with it, but it happened way too often last season.
                          Sorry man...i was...iwas ...i ....was a total asshat.

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