All-Timers Teams

[MysterioMan007]

MLB '11 The Show UPDATE
This year, I'm redoing the All-Time rosters for each franchise, not just for the Major League Team, but for the Minor Leagues as well.

After thinking long and hard, I decided that I think it makes things more fun when a guy is only on one team. For example, when I do a season, I don't want to see A-Rod leading the league in HR's with 3 different teams. That's no fun to me. So, I won't be doing doubles. I apologize to those who like having clones in the game...but I don't. So, the rule for my rosters was once again one guy to one team. Luckily, it's easier to alter this year if you want to make changes.

I used Bahnzo's Roster Tools for the MLB '10 version (which I'm importing ratings from) and the Neyer/James Guide To Pitchers, as well as various internet pictures and sites like Baseball Reference to try and get them as accurate as possible. Big thanks to those had ready-made players in the vault. It helps cut down the workload.

I also plan on filling the minors with players that didn't make the main roster. That way, if you don't like the roster, you can alter it if you like with other guys waiting in the wings. Plus, minor league games might also be fun to play. Like last year, I will post teams as they are finished.

Baltimore Orioles COMPLETED (P38 Roster Listing)
Boston Red Sox *IN PROGRESS*
New York Yankees
Tampa Bay Rays
Toronto Blue Jays

Chicago White Sox
Cleveland Indians
Detroit Tigers
Kansas City Royals
Minnesota Twins

Los Angeles Angels
Oakland Athletics
Seattle Mariners
Texas Rangers

Atlanta Braves COMPLETED (P38 Roster Listing)
Florida Marlins
Washington Nationals
New York Mets
Philadelphia Phillies

Chicago Cubs
Cincinnati Reds
Houston Astros
Milwaukee Brewers
Pittsburgh Pirates
St. Louis Cardinals

Arizona Diamondbacks COMPLETED (P. 38 -Roster Listings)
Colorado Rockies
Los Angeles Dodgers
San Diego Padres
San Francisco Giants

[thesnowman8]

Re: All-Timers Teams

I would be interested in the team rosters. Maybe you could post this in a word document instead of typing them all out?

[MysterioMan007]

Re: All-Timers Teams

I would love to do it that way, but I'm constantly changing the rosters as I go along when I decide that one player would better fit on one of his other teams. I've completed the Baltimore Orioles all the way down through their minor league teams with random players as well, but decided to just do the 25 man rosters and then go back later and do the minors. Also, some players that are usually starters have been relegated to the bullpen to get them on the team. As of right now, here's what's done so far:

Baltimore Orioles

25-Man Roster

Starting Rotation:

1. Satchel Paige
2. Jim Palmer
3. Mike Mussina
4. Urban Shocker
5. Mike Cuellar

Bullpen:
1. Dave McNally
2. Tippy Martinez
3. Mike Boddicker
4. Scott McGregor
5. Mike Flanagan
6. CP: Gregg Olson

Starters:
C: Chris Hoiles
1B: Eddie Murray
2B: Marty McManus
SS: Cal Ripken, Jr.
3B: Brooks Robinson
LF: Ken Williams
CF: Brady Anderson
RF: Frank Robinson

Bench Players:
C Rick Dempsey
1B: Dan Brouthers
1B: Boog Powell
2B: Davey Johnson
3B: Melvin Mora
OF: Ken Singleton

DH can use any of these guys. I haven't set the lineups yet.

Boston Red Sox

Starting Rotation:
1. Cy Young
2. Roger Clemens
3. Pedro Martinez
4. Smoky Joe Wood
5. Derek Lowe

Bullpen:
1. Jon Lester
2. Mel Parnell
3."Spaceman" Bill Lee
4. Dick Radatz
5. CP: Jonathan Papelbon

Starters:
C: Carlton Fisk
1B: Mo Vaughn
2B: Bobby Doerr
SS: Nomar Garciaparra
3B: Wade Boggs
LF: Ted Williams
CF: Fred Lynn
RF: Carl Yastrzemski

Bench:
OF: Dwight Evans
OF: Jim Rice
1B: David Ortiz
2B: Dustin Pedroia
3B: Jimmy Collins
1B/3B: Kevin Youkilis
C: Rick Ferrell
C: Jason Varitek

I think I also have Rico Petrocelli and Joe Cronin created in minors, as well as people already in the game like Tim Wakefield, Jacoby Ellsbury, and Daisuke Matsuzaka.

New York Yankees
Starting Rotation:

1. Whitey Ford
2. Red Ruffing
3. Lefty Gomez
4. Ron Guidry
5. Andy Pettitte

Bullpen:
1. Rich "Goose" Gossage
2. Sparky Lyle
3. Dave Righetti
4. Waite Hoyt
5. CP: Mariano Rivera

Starters
C Yogi Berra
1B Lou Gehrig
2B Tony Lazzerri
SS Derek Jeter
3B Graig Nettles
LF Joe DiMaggio
CF Mickey Mantle
RF Babe Ruth

Bench
OF Roger Maris
OF Bernie Williams
SS Phil Rizzuto
2B Billy Martin
1B Don Mattingly
C Thurman Munson
C Jorge Posada

Tampa Bay Rays
Wasn't a whole lot to be done here because of the franchise's short run so far and the fact that I feel like their best players are there right now, but:

Starters:
1. James Shields
2. Scott Kazmir
3. Matt Garza
4. David Price
5. Jeff Niemann

Bullpen
1. JP Howell
2. Grant Balfour
3. Andy Sonnanstine
4. Esteban Yan
5. CP: Roberto Hernandez

Starters
C: Toby Hall
1B: Jorge Cantu
2B: Ben Zobrist
SS: Jason Bartlett
3B: Evan Longoria
LF: Carl Crawford
CF: BJ Upton
RF: Jose Guillen

Bench:
C Dioner Navarro
1B Carlos Pena
2B Akinora Iwamura
SS Julio Lugo
OF Rocco Baldelli
OF Randy Winn
OF Aubrey Huff

Toronto Blue Jays
Starting Rotation:
1. Roy Halladay
2. Dave Stieb
3. David Wells
4. Juan Guzman
5. Ricky Romero

Bullpen:
1. Jimmy Key
2. Kelvim Escobar
3. Jim Clancy
4. Mark Eichhorn
5. CP: Tom Henke

Starters:
C Ernie Whitt
1B Carlos Delgado
2B Roberto Alomar
SS Tony Fernandez
3B: Kelly Gruber
LF: George Bell
CF: Shannon Stewart
RF: Shawn Green

Bench:
C Pat Borders
1B John Olerud
2B Aaron Hill
OF Vernon Wells
OF: Joe Carter
OF: Lloyd Moseby
3B: Eric Hinske

Even these are subject to change, as I feel I have been lazy in parts. I'll post the other teams when I complete them. I ran through a Red Sox/Yankees game to try some of the guys out and I'm pretty happy with the CAPs I think. Keep in mind that this is like a rough draft so far and I'm going to go back and smooth out the edges on each team. However, suggestions for the rosters are welcome.

[emath]

Re: All-Timers Teams

I have done this for High Heat, and MVP 05. Over at MVP mods I had been working on a total conversion for this, and am about 75% finished with it, but The Show kinda took my attention away from MVP. Not sure if I will ever finish it at this point, but I LOVE playing with classic all time rosters. I have the rosters done for MVP, and can still play if I get the itch, I just don't have all of the extras done that go with the total conversion.

I really don't feel up to doing it all again for The Show, plus I am not all that excited about doing it on a console... So I will be very intersted to see your rosters...

I tend to be in the minority about using players on more than one team, as my rosters have it (Ruth in the rotation for the Red Sox, and at the plate for the Yankees intrigues me... It's like the ultimate battle... One of the best lefties of his era, and one of the greatest hitters of all time, and it's the same person.. Who wins out?).

I mean, you can't really have Seattle without Randy Johnson, and you can't really have Arizona with out him either... Also, my guess is that many Angels fans consider Nolan Ryan one of their all time pitchers... I aslo bet that many Astro and Ranger fans feel the same way...

Anyway, that's just my opinion, and I will still be trying your out when they are finished. Good luck, and can't wait

[MysterioMan007]

Re: All-Timers Teams

Yeah, I've gone back and forth on the player on multiple teams issue. Nolan Ryan is the one player I had the hardest time deciding on, as I feel (like you do) that he could have been on any of those 3 teams. Right now, I have him on the Angels, but I change my mind every time they show him on MLB Network doing something for one of the other teams.

Randy Johnson is tentatively listed on the Mariners right now, but it is tempting to put him on the D-Backs. But, for this draft, at least, I'm only going to do the one appearance. I just feel that I want to include as many different players as possible. There may be a point when I can do 2 versions once this first draft is done, one with only the one appearance and the other with guys having multiple appearances on different teams.

I always wanted to play this on MVP 05 and followed the project over at the MVP Mods website, but could never allow myself to pay the ungodly amount of money that the CPU version costs, even used.

Now, the plan is that once this is done, to do a Classic Teams roster using this as a base to work from. While I'll probably only be doing teams from 1975-present, I have no problems using multiple players on classic teams rosters. Making the 1986 Mets and 1981 Expos without Gary Carter or the '75 Reds and '80 Phillies without Pete Rose on one or the other would kind of destroy the concept.

Anyways, I plan on finishing the White Sox today, as I have only the pitchers left to do. I took yesterday off, only doing a couple of guys during a period of boredom. I'll post the Chicago White Sox 25-Man Roster when I'm done.

[MysterioMan007]

Re: All-Timers Teams

Slight change to the Rays, as I moved Rafael Soriano to the Braves and put Roberto Hernandez as their closer.

Chicago White Sox

Starting Rotation
1. Ed Walsh
2. Eddie Cicotte
3. Jack McDowell
4. Ted Lyons
5. Billy Pierce

Bullpen
1. Mark Buehrle
2. Wilbur Wood
3. Red Farber
4. Hoyt Wilhelm
5. CP: Bobby Thigpen

Starters
C Sherm Lollar
1B Frank Thomas
2B Eddie Collins
SS Luis Aparicio
3B Robin Ventura
LF "Shoeless" Joe Jackson
CF Lance Johnson
RF Magglio Ordonez

Bench Players
OF Jermaine Dye
OF Harold Baines
OF Minnie Minoso
SS Luke Appling
2B Nellie Fox
1B Paul Konerko
C Ray Schalk

There's also several guys in the minors like Aaron Rowand, Joe Crede, Scott Podsednik, Alexei Ramirez, etc. that are already in the game.

Next up are the Cleveland Indians...

[bostongahden]

Re: All-Timers Teams

Love what you're doing here, man! Keep goin'. It should be great

[Perfect Zero]

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This is a great idea. I know as a Ranger's fan I'm biased, but Nolan deserves to be on the Rangers. I know he pitched more for California and Houston, but he chose the "T" on his cap in the Hall of Fame, and many of his career record breakers came at Arlington Stadium. He's also about to own the Rangers if Tom Hicks will get off his golden throne.

[thesnowman8]

Re: All-Timers Teams

The rosters are looking great so far. I love the fact that we can play with Shoeless Joe, and Babe Ruth, and Mickey Mantle..Man, I'm pumped about these rosters! Keep up the good work!

[MysterioMan007]

Re: All-Timers Teams

Gonna try and finish the Indians today, but Roster Tools is acting up, so we'll see. Been busy the past few days and have 10 more players left for Cleveland.

[HGH_whocares]

Re: All-Timers Teams

I dont think Burrell should be on the Rays lineup his best years where as a Philly I think Rocco Baldelli should replace him.

[MysterioMan007]

Re: All-Timers Teams

You're right. I rushed through the Rays and in fact have moved Pat Burrell to the Phillies minors. Rocco Baldelli has taken his spot. It was sleep deprivation that had me listing him in the first place, I think.

The Cleveland Indians are done:

Starters:

Bob Feller
Bob Lemon
Early Wynn
CC Sabathia
Addie Joss

Bullpen:

Sam McDowell
Luis Tiant
Cliff Lee
Doug Jones
CP: Bob Wickman

Position Players

C Sandy Alomar, Jr.
C Victor Martinez
1B Hal Trosky
1B Jim Thome
2B Nap Lajoie
2B Carlos Baerga
3B Al Rosen
SS Lou Boudreau
SS Omar Vizquel
OF Albert Belle
OF Kenny Lofton
OF Tris Speaker
OF Earl Averill
OF Manny Ramirez
OF Rocky Colavito

There's also some already in the game players in the minors, such as Casey Blake, Coco Crisp, Ryan Garko, Asdrubal Cabrera, Shin-Soo Choo, etc.

The Detroit Tigers are next.

[MysterioMan007]

Re: All-Timers Teams

I took a break from making these for a while due to burnout on it, but I'm refreshed now and ready to move forward. Not quite finished with the Tigers yet, but the roster is set:

C Bill Freehan
C Lance Parrish
1B Hank Greenberg
1B Norm Cash
1B Cecil Fielder
2B Charlie Gerhinger
2B Lou Whitaker
SS Alan Trammell
3B George Kell
3B Travis Fryman
OF Al Kaline
OF Ty Cobb
OF Sam Crawford
OF Kirk Gibson
OF Harry Heilmann

SP Hal Newhouser
SP Tommy Bridges
SP Denny McLain
SP Jack Morris
SP Dizzy Trout
RP Mickey Lolich
RP Jim Bunning
RP Mark Fidrych
RP Mike Henneman
CP Todd Jones

[MysterioMan007]

Re: All-Timers Teams

Finally getting some of this done, I may just release an AL version so that I can get feedback and maybe get some stance and delivery suggestions. The Kansas City Royals are done.

SP Bret Saberhagen
SP Dennis Leonard
SP Larry Gura
SP Kevin Appier
SP Paul Splittorff
RP Mark Gubicza
RP Tom Gordon
RP Zach Grienke
RP Dan Quisenberry
RP Joakim Soria
CP Jeff Montgomery

C Mike Macfarlane
C John Wathan
1B Mike Sweeney
1B John Mayberry
2B Frank White
SS Freddie Patek
3B George Brett
3B Kevin Seitzer
OF Willie Wilson
OF Amos Otis
OF Bo Jackson
OF Johnny Damon
OF Carlos Beltran
OF Hal McRae

The Minnesota Twins are the next team up and maybe I'll finish this by Christmas :wink:

[hope4bob]

Re: All-Timers Teams

Great looking rosters so far. I also like all time teams especially Yankees.

Where's A-Rod? Seattle, Texas, NY? Is he there and I missed him?

let us know when you post them and what they will be called.

bob