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  • Afrikan
    Banned
    • Apr 2004
    • 1462

    #76
    Re: Backbreaker Review

    Originally posted by ChaseB
    Friendly editor of said review popping in here for a moment. Two of those things in bold are mentioned in the review and everyone knew about the physics from the start -- the game was pushed forward because people were going crazy about the tech demo. However, if the reviewer thinks the gameplay is suspect, how can he rationally rate it much above a 5 when -- and I think everyone would agree here -- gameplay is the most important aspect. I think he gushes about the customization but that can only take a game so far.
    maybe you can clarify this sentence more.....um, what tech demo are you talking about? and when did people go crazy?

    for a second there I thought the head editor of OS, was referring to this game as a tech demo...lol.

    maybe I'm misunderstood what you were referring to there.
    Last edited by Afrikan; 06-09-2010, 03:40 PM.

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    • grunt
      Banned
      • Jul 2002
      • 9527

      #77
      Re: Backbreaker Review

      The review reminds of how 1up review sport games. OS should take it down and give a quality review or don't put a review up.

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      • swaldo
        MVP
        • Jul 2002
        • 1268

        #78
        Re: Backbreaker Review

        Originally posted by mestevo
        This is a flawed view though, people are reviewing the game in the packaging, not the game that it could be after a patch, or after half a decade of refinement.
        I partly disagree. If someone were to tell you that BB was a one time deal- take it or leave it then I don't think anyone would buy the game based off it's existing flaws. As a sports gamer I want to know where this thing is going in the future? Is this just a tech demo put out for EA? Was there any effort to make this a sim or is it just an arcade game? Are the developers active and listen & support the community? Do they have the capability to compete with bigger players?

        The BB team confirmed they are starting work on BB2 so that's a plus. You just have to factor in how many flaws you can tolerate and decide if it's something you want to support. The average consumer reading the review will get an impression that it's a lousy game. Is it so bad to say look folks, the gameplay has some glaring issues. However, it has this revolutionary new animation system so it really has some crazy potential!

        If the game was totally unplayable it would be a different story, I'm not going to just make a $50 donation for something I won't play at all. But there's enough there for me to want to support it and a patch could do wonders.

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        • gr18
          MVP
          • Sep 2007
          • 2286

          #79
          Re: Backbreaker Review

          If I'm not mistaken,2k8 got reviewed pretty badly,like 6-7 on average,and many people really enjoyed it,much more than the other game that year that got very good reviews and that game was awful.

          I just hope people take the time to make their own opinion.This game does need alot of patience though,which most people don't have.

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          • Afrikan
            Banned
            • Apr 2004
            • 1462

            #80
            Re: Backbreaker Review

            Originally posted by grunt
            The review reminds of how 1up review sport games. OS should take it down and give a quality review or don't put a review up.
            oh those old MLB The Show reviews were inaccurate and unprofessional.

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            • LingeringRegime
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jun 2007
              • 17089

              #81
              Re: Backbreaker Review

              I am glad that I own the game, and doubly happy that I am enjoying it. If I waited for this review, I would have passed on it.

              Ground rules really help when playing against the CPU AI (In every sports game, especially this one.) I have won games by blowing out the CPU, lost big to the CPU, and close games have been won/lost by the CPU. I never switch on defense, and I always ask the coach.

              Is the game the end all, be all of Football games? Hardly. But, it's definitely not trash. The variety of plays that I have seen so far, are alone worth the price of admission.

              Those of us who own the game all know the two BIG problems with it. Turnovers and Sacks. But, what this game does well makes me live with those problems. If those two things will ruin the game for you, then don't buy the game. If you think you would enjoy seeing realistic physics, and never seeing the same play twice, then proceed to purchase.

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              • Afrikan
                Banned
                • Apr 2004
                • 1462

                #82
                Re: Backbreaker Review

                Originally posted by gr18
                If I'm not mistaken,2k8 got reviewed pretty badly,like 6-7 on average,and many people really enjoyed it,much more than the other game that year that got very good reviews and that game was awful.

                I just hope people take the time to make their own opinion.This game does need alot of patience though,which most people don't have.
                its not even the # scores...but just the content in these reviews that disappointment me.

                Less realistic than Blitz? Jesus H Christ...my god!

                I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but just wow.

                I can't believe this was passed forward and allowed to represent this website I have followed for many many years.

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                • Joeyland
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 80

                  #83
                  While Ive gone 2-15 early on in this game I have also gone 21-25, after learning a few things.
                  Lets not kid ourselves, theres a reason the average mag review is like 4 of 10, and the average fan review is like 7.
                  Sport gamers are diggen this game, the status-quo hates it, cause its a threat.

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                  • Blitzburgh
                    Pro
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 793

                    #84
                    Re: Backbreaker Review

                    Originally posted by Afrikan
                    Very disappointed in OperationSports for allowing a review like this.... edit- I'm talking about the head editor.

                    OS BackBreaker reviewer -
                    "I say that because the gameplay in Backbreaker is its biggest downfall by far. It does not even feel as realistic as an old NFL Blitz title."

                    I mean really?

                    its not about it deserving a high score or a bad score or what ever....but I don't know how anyone can take a review from a professional sports videogame site like OS has been viewed as, serious when one of their reviewers says something like this.....seems like someone is reaching.

                    but enjoy the hits I guess.
                    Seriously?Come on, this review is ridiculous! No, it is not an 8,9 or a 10 but it is a solid 6-7 at least. Anyone who complains about throwing to many interceptions ( i have done this myself) hasn't learned to read the defenses, take a sack when appropriate, run with the ball or simply throw it away! I am still learning this but it is the most rewarding game when you make big pass plays or break a nice run unlike any other football game to date.

                    Playing defense never felt more like playing defense. The camera view is almost perfect for playing defense. It truly puts you on the field and in the play. I wish i had more control but that is the way it is for round one.

                    How about special teams! Running down to smash the returner is not fun? trying to judge catching the punt or kick is not fun? Turning off the arrow when kicking and using the camera to set your aim up is not fun? Really? Really? No other football game puts you IN the game like Backbreaker does. To compare it to be Blitz and to say it is even inferior to that is just a joke to me. I couldn't even play that game for 1 qtr!

                    If you don't like it then fine each to their own but to write a review based on the FACT that you can't play the game is just absurd IMO!

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                    • TombSong
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 2543

                      #85
                      Re: Backbreaker Review

                      Originally posted by mbmonk
                      People try to play this game as if it's Madden or 2k. That doesn't work. You have to learn how to play THIS game. So some reviewers tried to play it like Madden and they sucked at it.. then went to write up a review.

                      The people who actually tried to learn how to play this new game ( and not just apply their Madden logic), saw a different game than the above people.

                      But at the end of the day BB has major problems. And as great as the game is, it just wasn't ready for release in it's current state. It needed much more polish. So it's hard to give this game a great score from a review standpoint.
                      Ill agree with this. I would have given it a 7 though for what it does right. It does need the AI play calling and clock management worked on. The Ai is strange in this game. There are times it will mount a good drive on you, but the rest of the time its hit or miss.

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                      • jmood88
                        Sean Payton: Retribution
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 34639

                        #86
                        Re: Backbreaker Review

                        Originally posted by mbmonk
                        People try to play this game as if it's Madden or 2k. That doesn't work. You have to learn how to play THIS game. So some reviewers tried to play it like Madden and they sucked at it.. then went to write up a review.

                        The people who actually tried to learn how to play this new game ( and not just apply their Madden logic), saw a different game than the above people.

                        But at the end of the day BB has major problems. And as great as the game is, it just wasn't ready for release in it's current state. It needed much more polish. So it's hard to give this game a great score from a review standpoint.
                        It has nothing to do with people trying to play the game like it's Madden or NFL2k, the computer AI is horrible. People on here like to say that if you don't like the game then it's because you're not good but that's really not the case, once you get used to the stupid things that the camera does the game is very easy since the computer will either give the ball right back to you as soon as it gets it or keep losing yards on every play.
                        Originally posted by Blzer
                        Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                        If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                        • ChaseB
                          #BringBackFaceuary
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 9838

                          #87
                          Re: Backbreaker Review

                          Originally posted by Afrikan
                          maybe you can clarify this sentence more.....um, what tech demo are you talking about? and when did people go crazy?

                          for a second there I thought the head editor of OS, was referring to this game as a tech demo...lol.

                          maybe I'm misunderstood what you were referring to there.
                          The game was originally shown as a tech demo for the physics technology Natural Motion was showing off.

                          I'm not saying the game they released now is equivalent to a tech demo.
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                          • Afrikan
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 1462

                            #88
                            Re: Backbreaker Review

                            Originally posted by Joeyland
                            While Ive gone 2-15 early on in this game I have also gone 21-25, after learning a few things.
                            Lets not kid ourselves, theres a reason the average mag review is like 4 of 10, and the average fan review is like 7.
                            Sport gamers are diggen this game, the status-quo hates it, cause its a threat.
                            that is sooo true.

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                            • Blitzburgh
                              Pro
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 793

                              #89
                              Re: Backbreaker Review

                              Originally posted by TombSong
                              I think the biggest mistake the Devs made for this game is not have some sort of mode where people could practice passing.

                              I remember my first impression of the game was, this aint good, and that was mainly stemming from my own inability to play the way I wanted to play.

                              Once you learn the game, you can see how good this game can be. Its a shame peoples frustrations are gonna win out over taking the time to learn what the game has to offer. Its also most of the reviews given of the game are by people who really don't know how to play the game.

                              The devs should really look at adding a practice mode as DLC and patch for the other issues.

                              I
                              What he said!

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                              • bill2451
                                Banned
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 1123

                                #90
                                Re: Backbreaker Review

                                heres my question

                                why is it that when Madden comes out the "experts" all score it well higher than the common user. And then when a threat comes out, like Backbreaker, all the "experts" score it well lower than the average user

                                now, I'm not a Madden basher, I played 10 a lot, but it seems apparent to me that something needs to change when reviews and users opinions continually differ so much

                                the reviews arent even making an attempt at being fair and impartial, and are doing gamers a huge disservice by not evenly representing the games

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