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  • franko3219
    Pro
    • Jul 2009
    • 788

    #1771
    Re: NCAA Football 11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

    Originally posted by kingkilla56
    I cant stand how some people are making blanket statements over the entire game based off a DEMO as in DEMONSTRATION of what we're working on.

    OH hook zones are broken
    I get no pass rush
    etc

    first check the dificulty your playing on. AA and Heisman are not simulations of anything nore do they claim to be. They are a more difficult mode of the game as in HARDER to win. Not tougher in AI or football smarts, HARDER to defeat period. If Tiburon makes a "simulation" dificulty and your seeing crazy stuff then go crazy.

    secondly i think people are losing touch, you are playing college football where some players are garbage compared to others. You say your corners cant cover the CPU receivers with zone coverage. Maybe your player sucks? Maybe he can't play zone? You guys make it seem like YOUR defense has to play perfect or else the game's defense is broken. Im sorry Mizzou cant get pressure on Clemson consistently. Maybe Clemson can actually block. People, you will have games where you can't stop the offense, where you get, hold your breath people, NO SACKS (guy passes out while reading), the other teams QB will ruin your day...hes a monster QB for a big time school, he will play well and maybe against you (macho heisman player feints while reading) you may even have a game where you can't score for your life.

    Some of yall feel entitled to something and I dont know what. Especially this Cavalier fan. Anyway I like the direction this game is headed in lol
    I will start off by saying that I have yet to play the demo (My 360 RR'ed on Sunday), so nothing I am saying directly reflects the gameplay in this current demo.

    Although I do agree with you that too many people complain about every little thing, but I was reading your comments on the difficulty level and I disagree with you. If AA and Heisman are not simulation level difficulties, what is the proper difficulty for simulation? In year's prior Varsity is way too easy, so it cannot be a simulation. For example, if I play on Varsity and can take a 3 star program to the NC game the first year playing, that is not simulation. I believe that this is a problem that has plagued NCAA for years now, I believe that the difficulty level should be based off of the players ratings. For example, on Varsity your opponents ratings effect should be lowered for an easier experience for those that prefer an easier gameplay. AA should be your most realistic sim, where the the players attributes react realistically, and in which sliders can be adjusted to fit your belief in realistic gameplay. Heisman should be for those that want hardcore AI playing above their ratings. Again, this is just my opinion on my experiences playing the game. It definately gets boring winning the NC year after year because the AI just does not play to their actual ratings, but it is also annoying to see a QB go 20-27 for 400 yards as you would see consistantly in last years game.
    Last edited by franko3219; 06-16-2010, 05:34 PM.

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    • ODogg
      Hall Of Fame
      • Feb 2003
      • 37953

      #1772
      Re: NCAA Football 11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

      Just to expand on that - if I'm Army and the CPU is Alabama and the CPU can't run on me...well then we have a problem.
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      • rhombic21
        Pro
        • Jul 2002
        • 590

        #1773
        Re: NCAA Football 11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

        Originally posted by ODogg
        But he does bring up a good point. If I'm using Ohio State and the CPU can't rush worth a damn on me then maybe it's because the Buckeyes are good at stopping the run? I don't think you can fully say this or that is broke or even working until we have the actual full game and can play various teams and styles and compare how they all work together.
        Except that there already are a variety of teams in the demo, with a wide range of strengths and weaknesses, and many of these issues appear no matter what teams you use.

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        • ODogg
          Hall Of Fame
          • Feb 2003
          • 37953

          #1774
          Re: NCAA Football 11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

          Yeah you're probably right. Well we'll see..
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          • NEOPARADIGM
            Banned
            • Jul 2009
            • 2788

            #1775
            Re: NCAA Football 11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

            Originally posted by stevedrumsdw
            This deserves a repost because its the best post in this entire thread, THE GAMEPLAY needs some help, I hope the devs see this and others understand what these findings mean for sim fans.
            We get it, you're not happy with the game. How many posts are you going to make on the subject?

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            • Playmakers
              Hall Of Fame
              • Sep 2004
              • 15419

              #1776
              Re: NCAA Football 11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

              Originally posted by franko3219
              I will start off by saying that I have yet to play the demo (My 360 RR'ed on Sunday), so nothing I am saying directly reflects the gameplay in this current demo.

              Although I do agree with you that too many people complain about every little thing, but I was reading your comments on the difficulty level and I disagree with you. If AA and Heisman are not simulation level difficulties, what is the proper difficulty for simulation? In year's prior Varsity is way too easy, so it cannot be a simulation. For example, if I play on Varsity and can take a 3 star program to the NC game the first year playing, that is not simulation. I believe that this is a problem that has plagued NCAA for years now, I believe that the difficulty level should be based off of the players ratings. For example, on Varsity your opponents ratings effect should be lowered for an easier experience for those that prefer an easier gameplay. AA should be your most realistic sim, where the the players attributes react realistically, and in which sliders can be adjusted to fit your belief in realistic gameplay. Heisman should be for those that want hardcore AI playing above their ratings. Again, this is just my opinion on my experiences playing the game. It definately gets boring winning the NC year after year because the AI just does not play to their actual ratings, but it is also annoying to see a QB go 20-27 for 400 yards as you would see consistantly in last years game.
              I believe it should be based off player and team ratings aswell.....

              But i disagree with you that the level is AA where the ratings play out more

              I honestly believe it is Varsity level and the same way you stated the sliders can be used on AA well they can also be used on Varsity to provide the same game play expierence
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              • Krodis
                Rookie
                • Jul 2008
                • 491

                #1777
                Re: NCAA Football 11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                I'm not really having trouble getting a pass rush either against me or for me. It may not be quite as quick or consistent as desired, but I hardly think it's broken.

                The blocking AI isn't always perfect, but I find my biggest problem is when I out-run my blockers. It's pretty solid otherwise.

                As far as pass coverage AI, it's not perfect, I admit. I don't think it's horribly broken though. Remember, zones are vulnerable against certain pass routes. I think I need more playtime to say for sure though.

                Also, if every block and coverage was perfect, that wouldn't be particularly realistic either.

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                • Segagendude
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 7940

                  #1778
                  Re: NCAA Football 11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                  Played the demo quite a bit today. A little background---I'm a Madden vet, an NCAA rookie. Never bought or even played NCAA before. (Don't ask why, I'm an Ohio State fan too! You'd think I'd love college FB games, but I didn't..)

                  Anywho, because I stink at Madden, I probably stink at this game to. Playing on Varsity, both teams were scoreless (Mia at Ohio State) until 30 sec. left in the fourth, when I finally put a drive together and scored a fg to win 3-0....


                  Impressions:

                  This is my personal feeling, again, having never played before, I have no "base" to compare.But, I like it so far! The lighting, movements, animations, pregame, etc.-----Love it all!

                  IF EA can convert me to an NCAA football game, they've done something right. I think they succeeded. Day One purchase for me? Don't think so yet. But it's a possibility that gets closer every time I play the demo!

                  Similar to some in The Show thread who didn't care for baseball but purchased the game anyway, that's how I feel right now. Wasn't a fan of college FB video games, but this game may convert me!

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                  • Meast21Forever
                    Pro
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 769

                    #1779
                    Re: NCAA Football 11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                    couple things - a few camera glitches on penalty calls which i'm sure have been discussed. i don't like that when i score a td it puts me back into offensive plays, instead of special teams. along the same lines, when i pick special teams from my own 20, it shows up with the option to kick a fg instead of punt first.

                    i like the momentum thing. it doesn't seem like a huge difference, but the game feels a bit better. a bit more like last generation. which is a good thing. the visuals are good on the intros, though i'm still not happy with the player models and their bulkiness.

                    in 4 games, i returned 2 kick returns on All-American. i had little problem getting outside with harris for miami and throwing on the run seemed fairly accurate.

                    it's a demo, but i'm sure this is pretty close to final. i'll need to get 10 or so more plays in before i know if it's a must buy though. we'll see.
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                    • BroMontana82
                      Support Sim
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 2225

                      #1780
                      Re: NCAA Football 11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                      Originally posted by Meast21Forever
                      it's a demo, but i'm sure this is pretty close to final. i'll need to get 10 or so more plays in before i know if it's a must buy though. we'll see.
                      close to the final build? i heard in a few places that the demo is on a build at least 2 months old...which would be great news as it's definitely a solid foundation in my opinion.

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                      • DonkeyJote
                        All Star
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 9202

                        #1781
                        Re: NCAA Football 11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                        Originally posted by BroMontana82
                        close to the final build? i heard in a few places that the demo is on a build at least 2 months old...which would be great news as it's definitely a solid foundation in my opinion.
                        It's about a month before the final build.

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                        • JerseySuave4
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 5152

                          #1782
                          Re: NCAA Football 11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                          the cpu just blocked my punt. That might be the 1st time i've ever had a punt blocked from the cpu that wasnt inside the 5 or my fault. They were in a normal PR but the guy got in quick on the outside and blocked it. Would be nice if it were easier for us to block some kicks every now and then.

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                          • B Edwards 17
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 52

                            #1783
                            Re: NCAA Football 11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                            I hope they fixed the lag in the QB in the read option. Whenever I chose not to hand the ball off i just like stopped. It doesn't flow smoothly at all.

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                            • fat_jed
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 66

                              #1784
                              Re: NCAA Football 11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                              WOW! just had one of the greatest comeback victories!
                              It was Miami Vs Ohio State and I was Miami. Down 12 with 23 seconds to go, the buckeyes just intercepted my past on my last possession. So they kicked it off, returned it for a touchdown and now it was 12-7 with 11 seconds remaining. Onside kick and what do we have here? I retain the onside kick with 8 seconds left. First i try Hail Mary, the ball is tipped with 3 seconds remaining. I try Hail Mary again, i try to buy some time, everyone is playing man on man, i roll to the left, see one of my receivers to the left streaking down field, throw it just before i get tackled, my receiver catches it in stride....TOUCHDOWN!!! i start running up and down my stairs in delight!

                              I am straight loving the demo, although there are some hitches playing on the PS3. But i dont know it seems like this will be my very first NCAA Football game!

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                              • georgiafan
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 11145

                                #1785
                                Re: NCAA Football 11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                                my ps3 demo isnt installing and is stoping at 14% anyone esle have this problem ?
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