I Know Everyone Has Issues With the Pass Rush In This Game But....

**dalecooper** · 07-26-2010, 10:31 AM

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I don't have too much of a problem with the amount of pass rush on the human side. If I rush 4-5 and the computer isn't in max protect or something, there's usually a decent rush. My biggest complaint on that side of things is that I just can't get sacks. Even when the rush gets to him he fires a decent pass out of nowhere right before I take him down. I've had about a hundred almost-sacks in this game, it's aggravating. But since I've been focusing on improving both my pass rush and coverage, I'm getting maybe 2 per game, which isn't bad. Perversely, I feel like I do best when I don't manually rush - I get more sacks from playing a linebacker or safety and doubling on a guy the computer wants to throw to. He'll roll out, wait, wait, and then eat my defensive end's collarbone. Good times.

On the CPU side, I do have a problem with it. I think EA gave them too much of a pass rush advantage... I shouldn't be running for my life every other play on AA default sliders. Play action is a sack or a very rushed throw like half the time. Routes with double moves - forget 'em, you better keep a close eye on your safety valve receiver. A lot of this comes from the fact that they blitz more than you'd expect, and seem to know exactly when and how to blitz... lousy mind-reading AI.

**Rebel10** · 07-26-2010, 10:36 AM

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Nice observations, I haven't had any problems with the pass rush this year. I'm sacking teams that I should sack and not getting to the ones I shouldnt. I also have talentless players.

However, one thing to note statistically: Of those 386 pass plays, it's unlikely that Quinn was in for all of them. Not only to players often sit out a couple of plays per drive, but it doesn't count time down for injuries, normal substitutions, blow outs, etc. So, his percentage of pressure is probably higher than the 6 or 7%

BUt nevertheless, I actually think pressure is fine this year. I don't get many sacks against good teams who have good offensive lines, but against mediocre teams, I'm in their backfield a lot especially late in the game while they're passing. The only things that really frustrate me with D-line play is when my guy 'animations' away from the QB.. like he does an animation that sends him in the complete opposite direction.. .when I'm trying to run away from the O-lineman. It's something that's always been a problem in Madden engine games.

**kzdwfy** · 07-26-2010, 10:38 AM

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Originally posted by Rebel10

Nice observations, I haven't had any problems with the pass rush this year. I'm sacking teams that I should sack and not getting to the ones I shouldnt. I also have talentless players.

However, one thing to note statistically: Of those 386 pass plays, it's unlikely that Quinn was in for all of them. Not only to players often sit out a couple of plays per drive, but it doesn't count time down for injuries, normal substitutions, blow outs, etc. So, his percentage of pressure is probably higher than the 6 or 7%

BUt nevertheless, I actually think pressure is fine this year. I don't get many sacks against good teams who have good offensive lines, but against mediocre teams, I'm in their backfield a lot especially late in the game while they're passing. The only things that really frustrate me with D-line play is when my guy 'animations' away from the QB.. like he does an animation that sends him in the complete opposite direction.. .when I'm trying to run away from the O-lineman. It's something that's always been a problem in Madden engine games.

Thats a good point, Ill look into that and see if that upped the percentage at all. Perhaps to about 10% at the most I imagine....

**Watson** · 07-26-2010, 10:40 AM

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Yeah, I have no issue at all. I just recorded 16.0 sacks and 15 TFL with a DE. It's a total non-issue.

**georgiafan** · 07-26-2010, 11:11 AM

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I dont have a big issue with sacks either my leader is on pace for 8 sacks.

**Rebel10** · 07-26-2010, 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by WatsonTiger

Yeah, I have no issue at all. I just recorded 16.0 sacks and 15 TFL with a DE. It's a total non-issue.

Same here. My DEs on the right side of the line have consistently been at the top of the NCAA in sacks. This is the first year in any EA football game where my top sack leaders are mostly from my defensive line, instead of like... the nickel back.

**mizzourah2006** · 07-26-2010, 11:22 AM

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Yeah I was using Aldon Smith he stayed all 4 years (is a sophomore right now) and I recorded 48 sacks in 3 years with him. He also had an astounding 30-35 TFL every year. He won all of the major defensive awards his Junior and Senior year. This is on all-american with SDs sliders too, where pass rush is turned down a bit.

**Senator Palmer** · 07-26-2010, 11:31 AM

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It's a total non-issue to me also. I'm getting all kinds of pressure with a four, sometimes three man rush. This has been the biggest issue I've had with EA on this gen and I am glad it's finally been fixed.

**ODogg** · 07-26-2010, 11:32 AM

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Once I learned to use the right stick moves I have no issue whatsoever with the pass rush. As Senator Palmer says, I'm so glad that EA finally got this issue resolved and hopefully going forward it doesn't come back to be an issue again.

**bh446066** · 07-26-2010, 12:20 PM

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Just played a game (granted, it was against ULL) where I got 4 sacks (all cpu AI controlled players). 1 by a blitzing LB, 3 by DL. You just have to mess with the CPU pass block and hum pass rush sliders. It works.

**jdefreitas** · 07-26-2010, 12:34 PM

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I had a DE get 14 sacks at BC on All American last year and get the Lombardi trophy. I don't have any issues on this difficulty. The JR that is taking his place this year and didn't play last year has 5 through 3 games. And one of those teams was FSU. On average I sack the pc between 2 - 5 times a game and pressure him probably at least 5 - 7 more times.

BC does have a great D though as far as the d-line and backers go.

**sportyguyfl31** · 07-26-2010, 12:46 PM

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Pass rush is fine.

The majority of the people who are complaining about the passrush, are the same ones who are playing on default Heisman, and wondering why it is hard.

**Senator Palmer** · 07-26-2010, 12:52 PM

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I play on default Heisman and I'm still getting sacks with consistency, sometimes incredibly consistency. I had one game with 8 sacks.

**Pogo27** · 07-26-2010, 01:00 PM

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There is a flaw in the original post. I mean, besides what someone already pointed out, in that the DE in question is not the only player on that team getting sacks.

It would be best to take a sample of TEAMS and find their TEAM sack total for the season and find the percentage of sacks the team got on passing plays.

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