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  • Jano
    You Dead Wrong
    • May 2004
    • 3161

    #421
    Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

    Originally posted by erickonasis
    Funny Ive never seen Boozer do that nor new it was possible that he ever could do that
    I haven't seen anybody here defending the dunk itself, just the fact that the player should be able to attempt it.

    I think everyone agrees that its an unrealistic play.

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    • fatleg3
      MVP
      • Aug 2008
      • 3602

      #422
      Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

      Originally posted by Tha_Kid
      I'm not in the group that supports giving everyone the ability and limiting the success rate. That said, the game does have a specific and separate dunk, layup, and shot control. You press towards the basket and Up on the skill stick and you will attempt a dunk. You roll up from left or right and you attempt a layup. You leave the LS neutral and it is a shot.

      For those that are saying the problem isn't that Boozer attempted the dunk but that he made it, that is inconsistent with players that can't/don't dunk. Take Fisher, UP on the stick for fisher doesn't have him attempt a dunk, but a layup, why? Because he doesn't dunk.

      So already there are context sensitive (as far as who is doing it) animation limits.

      By the logic i'm reading from you guys, Fisher should attempt a dunk and get rim-checked instead. I can't agree with that. It makes more sense and is more sim to give guys packages that fit their real life counterpart than to let anyone do anything for the sake of preaching total control.

      For the Boozer dunk, he should have jumped up in layup animation like what Fisher had because the game should know that he can not dunk from there. From there, physics should have led to a collision of some sort. The dunk range should be reduced but it makes you question the people playing this game everyday that we have to point that out. It's not like it's Ron Artest from the dotted circle, it's guys from the free throw line.
      I agree wit you on this and i dont. With somethings yea you are right that somethings shouldnt happen like bozzer dunking from the ft line. But with things like big man trying to crossover or take shoots that they dont take should be allowed. Things like the boozer dunking that far away will never happen but what if shaq has the ball with 1 sec left on the play or shot clock.

      When it comes to things like shoots or doing moves it should be like a reward system. You get penalized for taking a dumb shot or trying to do a croosover move with a big and that should be a bad shot or lost ball. that will teach you how to play with your players

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      • da ThRONe
        Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
        • Mar 2009
        • 8528

        #423
        Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

        Originally posted by HoosierDaddy
        I agree more animations need to be in the game. It lacks the depth, but that's understandable due to the control they have provided in a 1-year cycle. Problem is, how often do you see missed dunks in games? Players like Nash attempt dunks in games? All depends on the situation of a game too, half court offense, fast break, help-side defense late to rotate, etc..
        Agreed all these things should play a factor of a player like Nash even being in position to attempt a dunk. But assuming all the stars align and I'm controlling Nash why cant I attempt a dunk?
        You looking at the Chair MAN!

        Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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        • erickonasis
          MVP
          • Jan 2006
          • 3016

          #424
          Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

          Originally posted by fatleg3
          I agree wit you on this and i dont. With somethings yea you are right that somethings shouldnt happen like bozzer dunking from the ft line. But with things like big man trying to crossover or take shoots that they dont take should be allowed. Things like the boozer dunking that far away will never happen but what if shaq has the ball with 1 sec left on the play or shot clock.

          When it comes to things like shoots or doing moves it should be like a reward system. You get penalized for taking a dumb shot or trying to do a croosover move with a big and that should be a bad shot or lost ball. that will teach you how to play with your players
          Maybe i didnt play enough live 10 and that may be the case but in that game you could attempt a crossover and say complete it with Shaq?
          SLIDERS SUCK

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          • real baller
            Banned
            • Aug 2010
            • 19

            #425
            U GOTTA KNOW THE GAME OF BASKETBALL NOW !...I DONT SEE WHY ANYBODY WOULD WANT A GAME TO PLAY FOR U I WANT TOTAL CONTROL EA JUST FIX THE PASSING IN THE PRESS, FIX THE FREE THROW DUNKS , FIX THE SUCTION MAGNETISED STEALS , AND FIX THE INVISIBLE FORCEFIELDS IN THE CORNER AT THE THREE POINT LINES SO THAT IF I KNOW WHAT ONE OF THEM ARCADE BALLERS IS GONNA DO ( CORNER THREE WITH MO WILL OR GIBSON OR FINLEY OR CURRY ) LET ME BE ABLE TO TIME IT BLOCK IT LIKE REAL LIFE!

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            • RayDog253
              Pro
              • Jul 2009
              • 984

              #426
              Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

              Originally posted by erickonasis
              its also unrealistic
              So if you go to a park right now, and attempt to dunk it, but miss horribly It's unrealistic?

              I'm with the people who say he should be doing a runner or leaner rather then a dunk.

              But it's not unrealistic what everyone else is saying either. If a player jumps from too far out he shouldn't complete the dunk, rather he should alter his attempt some how.
              ..::Not changing this until Seattle gets another NBA team::..

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              • HoosierDaddy
                Pro
                • Jul 2005
                • 863

                #427
                Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

                Originally posted by da ThRONe
                Agreed all these things should play a factor of a player like Nash even being in position to attempt a dunk. But assuming all the stars align and I'm controlling Nash why cant I attempt a dunk?
                Simple, because you never see it happen in real-life. He should have a signature layup package, if you want variety.

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                • coolcras7
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 2337

                  #428
                  Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

                  I think the confusion is what people think sim actually is Simulation is the imitation of some real thing, state of affairs, or process. The act of simulating something generally entails representing certain key characteristics or behaviours of a selected physical or abstract system, having the ability to do whatever you want is not sim, total control as reanimator put it is not my definition of sim. NBA games should be limited by the rules of the game and the limitations of the players they are representing, each player have different abilities and skill sets and they know for so they would not in all good conscious attempt to do something they physically can't do because they only would hurt their teams chances of winning, my definition of sim and total control sim is being able to tap into a specific players abilities and use them to my advantage doing moves specific to that player when I wanted and not by some random act when you start allowing players to do things that are not know for doing they stop being that player and I am no longer playing a sim game because there is not basics to what is going on in the game and what is going on in the real NBA.
                  PSN=Coolcas7

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                  • erickonasis
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 3016

                    #429
                    Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

                    Originally posted by HoosierDaddy
                    Simple, because you never see it happen in real-life. He should have a signature layup package, if you want variety.
                    This is exactly what i am saying...it shoudlnt be in his arsenal...as steve nash isnt stupid enough to try this
                    SLIDERS SUCK

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                    • HoosierDaddy
                      Pro
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 863

                      #430
                      Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

                      if you want a sim-based game, you represent their real-life counterparts and tendencies. Bottom line.

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                      • erickonasis
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 3016

                        #431
                        Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

                        Originally posted by coolcras7
                        I think the confusion is what people think sim actually is Simulation is the imitation of some real thing, state of affairs, or process. The act of simulating something generally entails representing certain key characteristics or behaviours of a selected physical or abstract system, having the ability to do whatever you want is not sim, total control as reanimator put it is not my definition of sim. NBA games should be limited by the rules of the game and the limitations of the players they are representing, each player have different abilities and skill sets and they know for so they would not in all good conscious attempt to do something they physically can't do because they only would hurt their teams chances of winning, my definition of sim and total control sim is being able to tap into a specific players abilities and use them to my advantage doing moves specific to that player when I wanted and not by some random act when you start allowing players to do things that are not know for doing they stop being that player and I am no longer playing a sim game because there is not basics to what is going on in the game and what is going on in the real NBA.
                        SLIDERS SUCK

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                        • real baller
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 19

                          #432
                          JUST LEARN HOW TO PLAY BASKETBALL

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                          • real baller
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 19

                            #433
                            DAT WILL SOLVE YA PROBLEMS IT NO NEED TO GO ALBERT EINSTEIN ON US( LOLOLOLOOOLOOOLO LMAO)

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                            • real baller
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 19

                              #434
                              IF U DONT LIKE NBA ELITE DONT BUY IT !..SIMPLE .. ME I THINK IM GONNA LIKE NBA ELITE JUST BECAUSE I WANT CONTROL....THEN FOR THE LAMES WHO WANT DA ANIMATIONS TO PLAY FOR U JUST BY 2K11 PROBLEM SOLVED!

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                              • HoosierDaddy
                                Pro
                                • Jul 2005
                                • 863

                                #435
                                Re: NBA Elite 11 Videos and Impressions From the Boost Mobile Elite 24 Event

                                wow, I'm pretty sure you can get an infraction for continuous posting in caps. May want to hit that button.

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