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  • MassNole
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    • Mar 2006
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    #361
    Re: NCAA looking into the recruitment of Cam Newton?

    You know, if Kenny Rogers is making this all up he would be facing one helluva defamation suit on the part of Cameron Newton. Not to mention the crime of lying to the FBI now that they are involved. There would be severe criminal and civil repercussions if he were lying. So other than getting his 15 minutes, what would he really stand to gain by just making this all up?

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    • buckeyefan78
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      • Mar 2008
      • 1430

      #362
      Re: NCAA looking into the recruitment of Cam Newton?

      Originally posted by Sportsforever
      This. I think people miss the fact that this isn't about Auburn. The only way this is about Auburn is:

      a) Cam gets ruled ineligible and now Codi Burns tries to lead the Tigers to the title.

      b) through further investigation it is found that Auburn paid the $200K for Cam.

      At this point, I think A is a 50/50 chance and B is a 1% chance.

      On another note, someone needs to talk to Cecil. 'Bama paid $250K for a fat lineman who did nothing...the going rate for Cam should certainly have been closer to a million or so.
      Umm...ok.

      So what you're saying is that this isn't about Auburn because it involves money allegations at MSU. But if those accusations are true, Cam then turned around and decided to play for Auburn pro bono.

      Riiiiiiight....

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      • peteykirch
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        • Apr 2006
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        #363
        Re: NCAA looking into the recruitment of Cam Newton?

        If Cam is ruled ineligible they would have to vacate every win, so how could Codi lead them to a title this year?

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        • AuburnAlumni
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          • Jul 2002
          • 11939

          #364
          Re: NCAA looking into the recruitment of Cam Newton?

          This is as good of an analysis on "Camgate" as any I've seen so far. Would explain why there STILL is no hard evidence of ANYTHING other than 800000 "he said/she said" comments.


          via sportsbybrooks.com MSU Coaches Leaked Damning Cam Calls To ESPN Posted by Brooks on Nov. 11, 2010, 12:38pm If there was any doubt who le...
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          • Sportsforever
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            • Mar 2005
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            #365
            Re: NCAA looking into the recruitment of Cam Newton?

            Originally posted by AuburnAlumni
            This is as good of an analysis on "Camgate" as any I've seen so far. Would explain why there STILL is no hard evidence of ANYTHING other than 800000 "he said/she said" comments.


            http://eyesonauburn.blogspot.com/201...lysis-yet.html
            Haha...as soon as I clicked on the link and got and "orange and blue" background with a "circle the wagons" link on the right I knew I was in for some "objective" analysis.
            "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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            • AuburnAlumni
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              • Jul 2002
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              #366
              Re: NCAA looking into the recruitment of Cam Newton?

              Originally posted by Sportsforever
              Haha...as soon as I clicked on the link and got and "orange and blue" background with a "circle the wagons" link on the right I knew I was in for some "objective" analysis.
              Reading is hard.

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              • Sportsforever
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                • Mar 2005
                • 20368

                #367
                Re: NCAA looking into the recruitment of Cam Newton?

                Originally posted by AuburnAlumni
                Reading is hard.
                Oh no, I saw that...I actually read that column/post earlier today. I just thought the site was funny.

                There are also some things that he wrote that don't jive with some of the other reports, but at this point I don't know what's true/rumor/lies.
                "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                • AuburnAlumni
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 11939

                  #368
                  Re: NCAA looking into the recruitment of Cam Newton?

                  The Miami Herald takes a shot at Dan Mullen and Co.

                  From the Miami Herald...


                  Broken promise costly to Newton
                  .

                  Cam Newton might have broken rules. He might not have broken rules. One thing is certain: He broke a promise.

                  The best quarterback in college football is playing at Auburn this season. That wasn't the plan in 2008. In early December of that year, a promise was made between Newton and Florida offensive coordinator Dan Mullen. Mullen was going to Mississippi State and he was taking Newton with him. It was a perfect plan. A pact was made.

                  A pact was broken.

                  Mullen couldn't live with that and now Newton will have to live with this scandal for the rest of the season. Did Newton's father sell his son to the highest bidder? Did Newton leave Florida because he cheated academically? It's doubtful any of this will ever be proved. It's clear from where the murky source of Newton's national scrutiny began to flow.

                  In a sense, it was a package deal. Mississippi State was going to make Mullen the Southeastern Conference's youngest coach and Mullen was going to make Newton the Bulldogs' version of Tim Tebow.

                  Newton is, after all, a better version of Tebow. He's a better runner and a better passer than Florida's former All-Everything.

                  Through 10 games, Newton is ranked 10th nationally in rushing with an average of 114.6 yards a game. He has accounted for 35 touchdowns (19 passing, 15 rushing, one receiving) -- tops in the nation.

                  Newton never owed Mullen or Mississippi State anything. So what if Mullen recruited Newton to Florida? He needed to recruit him again to Mississippi State, and he lost. But that's not how Mullen sees it.

                  Here's a timeline of how Mullen's plan to get Newton was foiled by Auburn offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn:

                  • Newton was charged with stealing a laptop computer at the University of Florida in November 2008.

                  • Around the same time, Mississippi State approached Mullen about bringing the Gators' spread-option offense to Starkville.

                  • Mullen accepted Mississippi State's offer after the SEC championship game.

                  • Newton completed his final semester at Florida a few weeks later and packed his bags for Texas.

                  • Newton played one season at Blinn College in Brenham, Texas, leading his team to a junior college national championship. Everything was moving along according to plan. Then, suddenly, Auburn ruined everything for Mississippi State.

                  • Newton signed with the Tigers on Dec. 31, 2009.

                  Now, Mississippi State is trying to ruin everything for Newton.

                  According to the initial report in The New York Times, a de facto agent representing Newton approached a Mississippi State booster and indicated an exchange of cash would be needed to acquire the services of the coveted quarterback prospect.

                  Sounds like Newton is bad news, right? Well, on Thursday afternoon it became clear that the would-be agent that allegedly was working for Newton's family -- former Mississippi State player Kenny Rogers -- actually was only a go-between working exclusively for Mississippi State. Rogers admitted this while being interviewed by a Dallas radio station.

                  The source for the story in The New York Times was John Bond, a former player and current booster for Mississippi State. In other words, he's one of Mullen's cronies. In other words, two former Bulldogs representing the interests of Mississippi State leaked this entire story out of spite and Mullen is at the center of the scandal.

                  And then there's a report by Foxsports.com, which claimed Newton cheated academically while at Florida and possibly was facing expulsion when he transferred.

                  It's all rather disgusting.

                  Using the media like pawns, Mullen and Mississippi State have succeeded in tarnishing a dream season for a once-in-a-generation player. Don't be naive and think this about cleaning up the SEC. That's laughable. A broken promise cost Mullen and Mississippi State a shot at the SEC title this season. A broken promise has cost Newton his image.
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                  • Sportsforever
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                    • Mar 2005
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                    #369
                    Re: NCAA looking into the recruitment of Cam Newton?

                    Originally posted by AuburnAlumni
                    The Miami Herald takes a shot at Dan Mullen and Co.
                    Interesting article, but this type of stuff is NO different than the other stuff. There is no proof or source cited for this "promise" made. There is a sure a lot of assumptions made about the plan to take Newton with him to MSU. There validity is no different than any other story.

                    Also, I'm sorry, but Newton is a better runner than Tebow and that's about the extent of it.
                    "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                    • AuburnAlumni
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 11939

                      #370
                      Re: NCAA looking into the recruitment of Cam Newton?

                      Originally posted by Sportsforever
                      Interesting article, but this type of stuff is NO different than the other stuff. There is no proof or source cited for this "promise" made. There is a sure a lot of assumptions made about the plan to take Newton with him to MSU. There validity is no different than any other story.

                      Also, I'm sorry, but Newton is a better runner than Tebow and that's about the extent of it.
                      LOL..yes..because obviously Tebow had Dan Marino like passing ability. </sarcasm>
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                      • Husker_OS
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                        • Jun 2003
                        • 21459

                        #371
                        Re: NCAA looking into the recruitment of Cam Newton?

                        MSU released an official statement tonight..


                        “During the recruitment of a football prospective student-athlete, Mississippi State was approached with an offer to provide an extra benefit. This offer was refused.

                        “MSU alerted the Southeastern Conference about the offer. MSU did not have any specific incriminating information about any other school, and thus could not provide any.

                        “As Commissioner Slive mentioned today, the SEC is not an investigative body. MSU has cooperated fully and completely with the NCAA from the time it began asking for our assistance, and looks forward to providing any and all help in this ongoing investigation.”



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                        • AuburnAlumni
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 11939

                          #372
                          Re: NCAA looking into the recruitment of Cam Newton?

                          According to Atlanta news outlets, Cecil Newton has admitted to money talks with MSU. Source that leaked it also stressed that Cam and Cam's mother had no knowledge of this and that it had nothing to do with Auburn.

                          This falls in line with what many of the more respected insiders on the AU boards told us yesterday that some more stuff was gonna come out that would make Cecil Newton look pretty bad but would have no effect on Cam/Auburn.

                          This information was already known to the NCAA. Auburn is playing Cam this weekend. That should tell everyone exactly where AU/Cam stand as far as the NCAA goes.

                          Man this has been a wild freaking ride.
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                          • Sportsforever
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                            • Mar 2005
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                            #373
                            Re: NCAA looking into the recruitment of Cam Newton?

                            Originally posted by AuburnAlumni
                            According to Atlanta news outlets, Cecil Newton has admitted to money talks with MSU. Source that leaked it also stressed that Cam and Cam's mother had no knowledge of this and that it had nothing to do with Auburn.

                            This falls in line with what many of the more respected insiders on the AU boards told us yesterday that some more stuff was gonna come out that would make Cecil Newton look pretty bad but would have no effect on Cam/Auburn.

                            This information was already known to the NCAA. Auburn is playing Cam this weekend. That should tell everyone exactly where AU/Cam stand as far as the NCAA goes.

                            Man this has been a wild freaking ride.
                            I read on another board today that according to NCAA rules that even if it was his dad that did the soliciting that he will be ineligible.

                            Are we supposed to take this as the reason why Cecil chose Auburn?
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                            • Husker_OS
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                              • Jun 2003
                              • 21459

                              #374
                              Re: NCAA looking into the recruitment of Cam Newton?

                              Originally posted by Sportsforever
                              I read on another board today that according to NCAA rules that even if it was his dad that did the soliciting that he will be ineligible.

                              Are we supposed to take this as the reason why Cecil chose Auburn?


                              If I'm not mistaken, this means Cam's ineligible.
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                              • WazzuRC
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                                • Dec 2002
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                                #375
                                Re: NCAA looking into the recruitment of Cam Newton?

                                Yeah, this isn't close to being over.

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