MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

[wrigleyville33]

Re: MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

I'm still upset on how bad Wrigley looks. The only improvement they made was making the the concrete colored stairs green. Nothing else was improved. They couldn't even get the correct dugouts. I mean, State Farm cover them in real life, why not do it for your own sponsor in the game SCEA? Wrigley better get some love next year...

[CardsGamer5]

Re: MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

pretty much everything you said here is wrong

How so strut? I watch the Cardinals every day, know all of their stances, why would I lie?

Albert's hands are in a horrible position, as are his legs. Look at the picture of his in-game stance sideways (it was somewhere on here) to this stance: http://swamigp.files.wordpress.com/2...bertpujols.jpg
No where close. You can watch videos of mlb.com too (same goes with all these guys)
Holliday doesn't have any leg movement, and his bat is relatively still. Colby has a leg kick and a two-handed follow-through. Berkman's bat somewhat rests on his shoulder.

As for Carpenter
1. He doesn't fall off toward 1st base
2. after he goes through his windup, his leg lift is much slower than in-game.

Like I said, check mlb.com, your eyes seem to be deceiving you

[sandmac]

Re: MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

The player models don't look much improved. Byrd and Pena still look like linebackers....
However, the lighting and physics are better. Looking forward to getting the game.

[Segagendude]

Re: MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

I'm disappointed. Looks exactly like '10, complete with the same commentary.

Don't see how this justifies another $60 from me. Oh well, just one man's opinion.......

[Tully]

Re: MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

That video is a little disappointing. Looks like 10 with just better lighting. Looks like they gave us the EA treatment.

[Scottdau]

Re: MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

I'm still upset on how bad Wrigley looks. The only improvement they made was making the the concrete colored stairs green. Nothing else was improved. They couldn't even get the correct dugouts. I mean, State Farm cover them in real life, why not do it for your own sponsor in the game SCEA? Wrigley better get some love next year...

I know I didn't even know it was Wrigley.

Spoiler

go play some of the baseball games I played and you would be going crazy over how good this Wrigley's Field looks.

[strut24]

Re: MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

How so strut? I watch the Cardinals every day, know all of their stances, why would I lie?

Albert's hands are in a horrible position, as are his legs. Look at the picture of his in-game stance sideways (it was somewhere on here) to this stance: http://swamigp.files.wordpress.com/2...bertpujols.jpg
No where close. You can watch videos of mlb.com too (same goes with all these guys)
Holliday doesn't have any leg movement, and his bat is relatively still. Colby has a leg kick and a two-handed follow-through. Berkman's bat somewhat rests on his shoulder.

As for Carpenter
1. He doesn't fall off toward 1st base
2. after he goes through his windup, his leg lift is much slower than in-game.

Like I said, check mlb.com, your eyes seem to be deceiving you

Im not going to get into a huge long drawn out argument with you about this but if you ask around, you'll see I know a thing or two about stances. first of all, with Pujols, you posted a picture from the side which you can't see in the video because it is the pitcher cam view. Pujols also is known for switching his stance throughout the season, including hand placement so the picture you posted might not be the same model they were using for the game. Berkmans stance while the same as years past is pretty accurate. yes he does rest the bat on his shoulder but his actual hitting position and leg/feet placement are nearly perfect. Rasmus DOES need the 2 handed follow thru as you mentioned but his stance itself is nearly perfect and as for Carpenter, they did seem to tweak his a bit but I do agree on his that they needed to do a bit more work on it but it still isn't as far off as you're implying. Holliday's stance is better than last years I can tell you that. He had the bat wrapped far too far around his head last year and he too is a guy who often adjusts his stance in season. The stance in the video looks a bit more like how he batted for the Rockies because is a bit more straight legged now with the Cardinals but it is a fairly good representation. overall I have really liked what I have seen in the videos as far as updated stances go and again, you won't find a bigger stickler for stances/motions than me. They aren't going to get every one completely accurate and most of that has to do with the time it takes to motion capture, but the fact that they listened to a lot of our community's ideas/complaints from the past games, it is at least a step in the right direction.

[callmetaternuts]

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Love that when a runner is on base, it shows baserunning ability and speed without having to go into another menu. Nice simple addition that gives you more info.

[wrigleyville33]

Re: MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

I know I didn't even know it was Wrigley.

Spoiler

go play some of the baseball games I played and you would be going crazy over how good this Wrigley's Field looks.

Yeah we are in the 21st century with technology... A company wanting 60 dollars should be able to make an authentic replica of one of the best baseball parks in the universe. Instead, they pushed it aside. At least the camera looks good, Ramirez looks good, and the lighting seems good... other than that my eye doesn't see much of an upgrade from '10.

[McCannFann]

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I can't tell you how happy I am to see that the outfielders don't press up against the wall any time they get remotely close to it! That's got to be the bane of my MLB-playing existence!

[Shakedowncapo]

Re: MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

Pujols is known for switching his stance? Are you kidding me? If anything, people talk about how consistent he keeps it. It's still way off how he holds his bat, regardless. I understand you're good with stances but don't call someone out for being flat wrong when they really aren't.

[strut24]

Re: MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

The player models don't look much improved. Byrd and Pena still look like linebackers....
However, the lighting and physics are better. Looking forward to getting the game.

Byrd must've taken one too many trips to Mr. Conte's office, huh? I think the player models are MUCH better than last year but to each their own

[strut24]

Re: MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

Pujols is known for switching his stance? Are you kidding me? If anything, people talk about how consistent he keeps it. It's still way off how he holds his bat, regardless. I understand you're good with stances but don't call someone out for being flat wrong when they really aren't.

he has switched his hand placement quite a bit over the years

ps - man there are some really crappy videos of him on youtube, otherwise I'd post you some changes in his stance/hand placement. check out his homer off Lidge in 05 vs any video you can find of him last year. He is way more crouched in 05 and the bat is further behind his ear vs. last year he is still crouched but not as much and the bat is a further out over the plate

[Cubfan]

Re: MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

I loved the ending of the video. I hope SCEA can find a new way to do commentary it just doesn't flow at all. The player models are much inproved. Wrigley Field is looking good.

[CardsGamer5]

Re: MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

Im not going to get into a huge long drawn out argument with you about this but if you ask around, you'll see I know a thing or two about stances. first of all, with Pujols, you posted a picture from the side which you can't see in the video because it is the pitcher cam view. Pujols also is known for switching his stance throughout the season, including hand placement so the picture you posted might not be the same model they were using for the game. Berkmans stance while the same as years past is pretty accurate. yes he does rest the bat on his shoulder but his actual hitting position and leg/feet placement are nearly perfect. Rasmus DOES need the 2 handed follow thru as you mentioned but his stance itself is nearly perfect and as for Carpenter, they did seem to tweak his a bit but I do agree on his that they needed to do a bit more work on it but it still isn't as far off as you're implying. Holliday's stance is better than last years I can tell you that. He had the bat wrapped far too far around his head last year and he too is a guy who often adjusts his stance in season. The stance in the video looks a bit more like how he batted for the Rockies because is a bit more straight legged now with the Cardinals but it is a fairly good representation. overall I have really liked what I have seen in the videos as far as updated stances go and again, you won't find a bigger stickler for stances/motions than me. They aren't going to get every one completely accurate and most of that has to do with the time it takes to motion capture, but the fact that they listened to a lot of our community's ideas/complaints from the past games, it is at least a step in the right direction.

If you read carefully, I said there was a picture (one of the screenshots I believe) that shows Albert's stance from the side. He does somewhat change his stance from time to time, but since around 04 his legs positioning/knee bend has stayed the same, and the way he bends his arm and the arm angles stay similar.
As for Holliday's, there is NO difference from last year
If Colby had the same stance from the beginning of last year, it would be close. That said, he changed his around many times last year, and if I can find a video of his last homerun, I believe he had an open stance (like much of the second half)
Berkman's bat position and his stride are very off
Carpenter's motion is pretty far off

I'm not arguing with you for the sake of arguing, and I believe you when you say you know alot about stances. That say, I watch the Cardinals day in, day out. I memorize their stances. If you want what I'm saying validated, I'd be more than happy to provide picture and video links. You can ask other Cardinals fans, these stances are pretty far off.

P.S: I also forgot to mention Yadi's in-game stance, it's atrocious. Though he also changes his stance many times a season, they all seem to have the same leg positioning and knee bend. He has never batted like his in-game stance, ever.