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  • at23steelers
    Pro
    • Dec 2009
    • 950

    #46
    Re: Top Spin 4 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

    @Rangerrick: I do come to the net, and attempt a volley, but how do I come to the net and hit an overhead?
    Have an awesome day!!

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    • 2slik
      Banned
      • Jun 2010
      • 268

      #47
      Re: Top Spin 4 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360/PS3)

      Originally posted by Smallberries
      Huh? Not sure what game you were playing, but serving in TS3 was incredibly easy. In other words, terrible and overly simplistic. Very few aces, for either you or your AI opponent.
      I was talking about the game not the serving, but on the matter of serving, TS4 is easier since you don't get punished for failing to tap the serve buttons twice or push analogue stick in two directions. At least in TS3, you completely miss the ball thus punishing you. In this you don't get punished that much. You just hit a weak serve.

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      • CMH
        Making you famous
        • Oct 2002
        • 26203

        #48
        Re: Top Spin 4 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

        Originally posted by Alistair
        Yes, it is.

        Why do you think they use the term "unforced" to distinguish types of errors?

        Let's say you blast a forehand down the line which your opponent is forced to stretch for and returns over the baseline. This by definition is a "forced" error because you asked your opponent to hit a difficult shot, which they were unable to do. But it wasn't a clean winner either...
        I figured this much, but I couldn't tell for sure when I thought a few shots from myself and my opponent were unforced errors. I haven't seen them counted in the stats so had to check. Thanks.
        "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

        "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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        • strawberryshortcake
          MVP
          • Sep 2009
          • 2438

          #49
          Re: Top Spin 4 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

          Originally posted by Randiesel75
          I'm loving this game, so much that I just preordered on Amazon. For those unaware, the preorder now comes with free release date shipping and a $20 credit to your account.
          I believe the following has already been mentioned before, but looks to be buried somewhere in the forum. For anyone interested, preorder Top Spin 4 at gamestop, and receive a vintage Agassi sporting long hair. It's an exclusive gamestop preorder special.

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          I'm uncertain as to how I want to approach this:
          (A) Gamestop: $59.99 + California tax = $65.00 PLUS vintage Agassi exclusive playable character.
          (B) Amazon: $59.99 + 0 tax = $59.99 PLUS $20 dollar promotional credit.

          **Through amazon, I would ultimately be "saving" $25 dollars; in other words, is vintage Agassi worth $25 dollars? I'll probably decide the day prior.**
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          • Alistair
            Rookie
            • Apr 2010
            • 310

            #50
            Re: Top Spin 4 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

            Just had some good TV time with the demo. Some impressions in no particular order:

            - Player models.... WOW!!! Clearly the standout for me. You could be excused for thinking they were actual photos, or game play footage of these guys. 2K has done an amazing job to get the models looking so lifelike. Even to the point where Rafa & Fed's hair moves when they shake their head around (unlike the superglue Lincecum mullet on The Show demo!) Also, has anyone else noticed that one of the security guards behind the players in the tunnel SNEEZES?? He hunches over and covers his mouth. What on earth made them put that in? But I love it. Little quirks like that add realism. I just hope it doesn't happen every time!

            - Serving might need a bit of tweaking. The ball just leisurely flies over the net with no real speed or authority. I know a previous post said that not everyone serves like Roddick or Karlovic, but this is slower than WTA (with all due respect ladies). The ball moves faster across my TV in a real match, so I'm hoping it can be patched or something to allow a more dynamic and faster service speed.

            - Other users have also complained about the lack of opponent unforced errors. I've only seen the one so far (Rafa put a ball wide during a rally). Again, it would probably be nice to see a few more of these creep in (particularly at the end of long matches as players tire - and more so for those with a lower stamina rating). I wonder if this has been factored into the final build? We'll just have to wait and see.

            - Presentation was immaculate. Despite the lack of commentary, the scoreboard, overlays and cut scenes are tremendous. THey've even nailed Rafa's fist pump celebration. He brought it out after saving a set point against me (not sure whether they time the big celebrations for critical points or not, but it was a nice touch).

            When all is said and done, this game has gone from a "maybe buy" to a "probably buy". I'll give it a week or so after release, see what the opinions say and see whether 2K has a patch for any of the (minor) things that have been brought up in this thread.

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            • PAPERNUT
              Gaming Fool.
              • May 2003
              • 1690

              #51
              Re: Top Spin 4 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

              Originally posted by rangerrick012
              One thing about aces - I understand people being frustrated by not seeing them, but at the same time you have to realize that aces aren't really that prevalent and that it's far often the unreturnable serve or short ball for an easy winner than just a clean ace. Outside of the guys like Roddick, Isner, Karlovic, the best servers on the ATP tour usually average only 10 aces a match at most. Federer only averages about 6 aces a match, Nadal only about 4, Djokovic only about 7.


              Great point. Hopefully over the course of a 3-5 set match we will see a bit more in the final release and for those players with the bigger serves. I have seen many times where a decent serve will get the opponent off balance with a weak return, so that is realistic in the sense it allows the server the opportunity to dictate the point from the start. Practice may help as well as it is hard to get a rhythm playing a tiebreak.
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              • FlyingFinn
                MVP
                • Jul 2002
                • 3956

                #52
                Re: Top Spin 4 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                Originally posted by CMH
                I have yet to see an unforced error in the statistics. Either they aren't being collected properly or I don't know what an unforced error is. Is it possible to not have a winner and not have an unforced error on the same point?
                Yes, you can have a forced error which is not tracked.

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                • rangerrick012
                  All Star
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 6201

                  #53
                  Re: Top Spin 4 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                  Originally posted by Alistair
                  - Serving might need a bit of tweaking. The ball just leisurely flies over the net with no real speed or authority. I know a previous post said that not everyone serves like Roddick or Karlovic, but this is slower than WTA (with all due respect ladies). The ball moves faster across my TV in a real match, so I'm hoping it can be patched or something to allow a more dynamic and faster service speed.
                  Right stick serving seems to be the way to go if you want to hit big serves.

                  Originally posted by papernut
                  Great point. Hopefully over the course of a 3-5 set match we will see a bit more in the final release and for those players with the bigger serves. I have seen many times where a decent serve will get the opponent off balance with a weak return, so that is realistic in the sense it allows the server the opportunity to dictate the point from the start. Practice may help as well as it is hard to get a rhythm playing a tiebreak.
                  Agreed. Hopefully more aces are in the retail build, but in a 7 point tiebreak it's hard to expect 3-4 aces a match. And Rafa and Roger are both lowly rated serves compared to Sampras and Roddick, so those guys may hit more aces.
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                  • OhioBobcats
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 316

                    #54
                    Re: Top Spin 4 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                    Nadal with one wristband, Federer with two? Nadal with his 2009 haircut? Come on 2K, those are minor but important details. How many people would like it if you put a headband on Kobe and took Lebron's off in NBA 2K11?

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                    • bhurst99
                      All Star
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 9137

                      #55
                      Re: Top Spin 4 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)



                      Video of intro to a match if anyone cares

                      Had some issues trying to embed the video.
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                      • bhurst99
                        All Star
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 9137

                        #56
                        Re: Top Spin 4 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)



                        Video of two rallies and me getting owned by Nadal. It has been a long time since I've played a tennis game and it showed.
                        Career of Bryan Hurst: Year Six(MLB - PS4)
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                        • CMH
                          Making you famous
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 26203

                          #57
                          Re: Top Spin 4 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                          Looks like you played on Hard. Also looks like my matches on Hard.
                          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                          "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                          • Panicshade
                            Pro
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 819

                            #58
                            Re: Top Spin 4 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                            I am having fun with the demo. It took me a while to get the hang of it. I didn't know if I had to press and hold the button or just press once, button serving vs stick serving, etc. I wish they would have given a more detailed control explanation or maybe opened up the practice area for the demo like other sports games have done. All in all it seems like a good game to me and will buy it for sure.
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                            • Rules
                              Go Irish
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 3813

                              #59
                              Re: Top Spin 4 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                              Originally posted by Randiesel75
                              I'm loving this game, so much that I just preordered on Amazon. For those unaware, the preorder now comes with free release date shipping and a $20 credit to your account.
                              Damn you all, everyone is trying to get me divorced.

                              Off to Amazon to preorder this one to.

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                              • Alistair
                                Rookie
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 310

                                #60
                                Re: Top Spin 4 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                                Something else I forgot to mention was how impressed I was to hear Daft Punk as a menu soundtrack

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