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  • booker21
    MVP
    • Jun 2003
    • 4932

    #391
    Re: NCAA Football 12 Live Stream Available Now (If You Missed it, Videos Included)

    I was really impress with all the improvements they were talking about.. but after watching this video, from gameplay perspective, i feel it was almost the same game
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    • The JareBear
      Be Good To One Another
      • Jul 2010
      • 11574

      #392
      Re: NCAA Football 12 Live Stream Available Now (If You Missed it, Videos Included)

      Originally posted by booker21
      I was really impress with all the improvements they were talking about.. but after watching this video, from gameplay perspective, i feel it was almost the same game
      I can't blame you or anybody else for feeling that way. I truly feel like some of the gameplay improvements shine in the video but the bottom line is until we get our hands on the demo, there is no way to really know
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      • PRAY IV M3RCY
        Pro
        • May 2010
        • 618

        #393
        Re: NCAA Football 12 Live Stream Available Now (If You Missed it, Videos Included)

        i just cant get passed the running and the lack of momentum with each and every player..i mean is this just something they cant fix..please i need to know so i wont be wishing for it every year. players r sliding and gliding turning up the field way to fast changing directions on a dime. This game will never look realistic to me unless they do something about this.

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        • PVarck31
          Moderator
          • Jan 2003
          • 16978

          #394
          Re: NCAA Football 12 Live Stream Available Now (If You Missed it, Videos Included)

          Originally posted by PRAY IV M3RCY
          i just cant get passed the running and the lack of momentum with each and every player..i mean is this just something they cant fix..please i need to know so i wont be wishing for it every year. players r sliding and gliding turning up the field way to fast changing directions on a dime. This game will never look realistic to me unless they do something about this.
          It wont be fixed until next gen. The engine obviously limits them from being able to change player movement and momentum at this point. There will not be a new engine this gen. I know some people hold out hope every year that there will be.

          I think this is why a lot of people are so disappointed every year because they expect wholesale changes to core gameplay. This will not happen this gen. The engine just isn't dynamic enough.

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          • poopoop
            MVP
            • Sep 2003
            • 1081

            #395
            Re: NCAA Football 12 Live Stream Available Now (If You Missed it, Videos Included)

            Originally posted by TheTodd84
            My Biggest Gripe is what people expect on a year-to-year basis. EA has acknowledged the flaws in their current-gen engine and have conceded that in the next cycle of consoles, they will use real-time physics... and will try to get them in this-gen. So just go with it. Each year, they will try their best to improve on what they have. They can't just radically change the entire engine in one gaming cycle.
            Because no one cares about their effort or how hard they try. It's a results orientated situation, all that matters is how well the game plays. Excuses don't matter either, they made the engine...so I'm not going to sit there and say "oh well the engine is bad nothing they can do."

            Also you always hear about the progression they're making, "heading in the right direction" or what they'll be able to do next gen. We're already talking about what NCAA 13 and beyond are gonna be like and NCAA 12 isn't even out yet.

            Originally posted by kbomb1upc
            You do know NBA 2K11 plays very similar to the previous versions of it's self and so does MLB the Show but no one cries about that.
            I can't speak for the Show, but NBA2k11 is a much better game than NCAA. So obviously it's going to come under less fire even though it's not perfect either. In the end people just want a good football game and the crying comes from frustration that NCAA falls short (in some people's opinion). If you think the game is good, then more power to you enjoy playing it.

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            • Segagendude
              Banned
              • Aug 2008
              • 7964

              #396
              Re: NCAA Football 12 Live Stream Available Now (If You Missed it, Videos Included)

              Originally posted by 31
              It wont be fixed until next gen. The engine obviously limits them from being able to change player movement and momentum at this point. There will not be a new engine this gen. I know some people hold out hope every year that there will be.

              I think this is why a lot of people are so disappointed every year because they expect wholesale changes to core gameplay. This will not happen this gen. The engine just isn't dynamic enough.

              I really don't want to hear that. I don't have the money to buy a new "next-gen" console just to see what could be.

              I'm pretty much stuck with my PS3. If this is true about no real improvements til the next consoles arrive, then to quote Brady Quinn,"now I'm done".

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              • kbomb1upc
                Rookie
                • Oct 2008
                • 227

                #397
                The things is the have fixed are the major problems people had with 11 and added a few more other stuff. If that's the only thing they've done that would make me happy because all other stuff is just extra like a cherry on top. When it comes down to it what really matters is gameplay and longevity not stats overlays and dreads. They have put a lot of effort into fixing gameplay which makes the game look and hopefully feel great to play. And I hope they also put a lot of effort into online franchise because that really matters when I think about dropping the 3 year season I'm already in.

                I know people are upset that they dont have all these graphical changes like new cut scenes but remember people that you will soon be pressing the X button to skip over those cut scenes anyway.

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                • The JareBear
                  Be Good To One Another
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 11574

                  #398
                  Re: NCAA Football 12 Live Stream Available Now (If You Missed it, Videos Included)

                  LOL at the Quinn reference.

                  Well, does it look one hundred percent true to life? No, but, I still think it looks OK
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                  • The JareBear
                    Be Good To One Another
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 11574

                    #399
                    Re: NCAA Football 12 Live Stream Available Now (If You Missed it, Videos Included)

                    Originally posted by kbomb1upc
                    The things is the have fixed are the major problems people had with 11 and added a few more other stuff. If that's the only thing they've done that would make me happy because all other stuff is just extra like a cherry on top. When it comes down to it what really matters is gameplay and longevity not stats overlays and dreads. They have put a lot of effort into fixing gameplay which makes the game look and hopefully feel great to play. And I hope they also put a lot of effort into online franchise because that really matters when I think about dropping the 3 year season I'm already in.

                    I know people are upset that they dont have all these graphical changes like new cut scenes but remember people that you will soon be pressing the X button to skip over those cut scenes anyway.
                    This is an intelligent post. I do agree that most of this stuff get skipped over anyway. I do feel like stay overlays are simple and go a long way to help immersion but oh well
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                    • moose1619
                      Pro
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 884

                      #400
                      Re: NCAA Football 12 Live Stream Available Now (If You Missed it, Videos Included)

                      After watching the videos again, I noticed many alignment problems with WR's on most formations. Maybe this has always been an issue and I just haven't paid that much attention. Most WR's align on the top or bottom of numbers depending on routes being run. Also ball on left hash the Outside WR will usually align out on the numbers and the inside WR will be just off the hash. In the videos we do not get a WR out all the way to the numbers to really spread the field. Again not a big thing and it could have always been that way, but just something I noticed.
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                      • georgiafan
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 10549

                        #401
                        Re: NCAA Football 12 Live Stream Available Now (If You Missed it, Videos Included)

                        the guys at TGT who played the game for many many hours said they was stat overlays and they would show up at random times. So I would take what they said over two 5 min qtr.
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                        • The JareBear
                          Be Good To One Another
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 11574

                          #402
                          Re: NCAA Football 12 Live Stream Available Now (If You Missed it, Videos Included)

                          Originally posted by moose1619
                          After watching the videos again, I noticed many alignment problems with WR's on most formations. Maybe this has always been an issue and I just haven't paid that much attention. Most WR's align on the top or bottom of numbers depending on routes being run. Also ball on left hash the Outside WR will usually align out on the numbers and the inside WR will be just off the hash. In the videos we do not get a WR out all the way to the numbers to really spread the field. Again not a big thing and it could have always been that way, but just something I noticed.
                          I am a little confused. Are you saying the WRs aren't spread out enough?

                          I don't know if this relates to your issue directly, but I can definitely say that the size of the player models in relation to the field have always been an issue. A guy in my OD forum did a test video and a guy could cover 30 yards in just 6 strides. I don't know if the players are too big, or the field is too small, but the ratio is a little messed up.
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                          • The JareBear
                            Be Good To One Another
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 11574

                            #403
                            Re: NCAA Football 12 Live Stream Available Now (If You Missed it, Videos Included)

                            Originally posted by georgiafan
                            the guys at TGT who played the game for many many hours said they was stat overlays and they would show up at random times. So I would take what they said over two 5 min qtr.
                            AHhh nice, that is good to know.
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                            • LionsFanNJ
                              All Star
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 9472

                              #404
                              Maybe I'm just not as picky, but I enjoy ncaa as much as the other company's game from 08. This year they listened to a few long standing gripes and implemented fixes that look good to me. For example zone coverage motion shifting and momentum shifting tackles. I do see the reasoning behind some of the other issues people don't like.

                              I mean for the first time I look forward to fielding and playing with a good defensive unit. Especially since with custom pb I make my own scheme.


                              And the dread s look good to me on the field dammit. At least I'll look like myself. Lol.

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                              • hurricanefootball4
                                Pro
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 829

                                #405
                                Re: NCAA Football 12 Live Stream Available Now (If You Missed it, Videos Included)

                                Personally, I thought the gameplay looked good. Knowing that the entire engine wasn't going to change, I'm pleased with the upgrades and tweaks that they did make b/c let's face it - I'm still playing NCAA Football 11 and it's May. Knowing we weren't going to get a physics based overhaul they really just needed to optimize what they can with this engine and I think they did that.

                                I'm not a huge pre-game pageantry guy, It's cool to see Miami run through the smoke but I usually skip those after about a week of the game coming out.

                                I'd really like to see if broadcast camera gets added, the guy asking questions said something along the lines of "they wanted to see the broadcast camera but we aren't showing that yet". It was strongly hinted that it would be in. That would be a nice add.

                                The biggest thing added to me still is custom playbooks - this will 100% change the way that I play the game b/c it will be custom to the way that I play and the team that I'm using in dynasty.

                                Really hoping for coaching carousel and the ability to fully edit rosters within a dynasty.

                                I was a little disappointed in the way dreads were executed and that the rosters were still only 70, but I watched the videos again last night and realized that I'm still really pumped about this game and def. doing a midnight release for it.

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