Anyone having trouble running the HB Slip Screen?

[thesnowman8]

I can't run this for my life this year. I can never have a positive gain. I try different situations, formations, it never makes a difference. I always get sacked or have an incomplete pass.

[Tennessee]

Re: Anyone having trouble running the HB Slip Screen?

I've noticed the blocking linemen and the HB tend to pause for a second or two before running to the flats. The only solution seems to be dropping back to an unrealistic point to complete it.

[gerg1234]

Re: Anyone having trouble running the HB Slip Screen?

I've noticed the blocking linemen and the HB tend to pause for a second or two before running to the flats. The only solution seems to be dropping back to an unrealistic point to complete it.

yup...you basically have to sprint backward to get it to work. Pretty much a worthless play vs. a user. Can still get it to work every so often vs cpu

[Steel Pitt]

Re: Anyone having trouble running the HB Slip Screen?

Just to echo what has already been said, I used to run this in years past from under center because it seemed easier to spot when run out of the shotgun formation. However, this year it seems you have to sprint back unrealistically far to complete it when under center.

Instead, I just run it out of shotgun where you don't have to do the crazy sprint back and it works well. I also noticed that you have to throw it to the back once he makes his initial break after the fake or he stops and turns which kills his momentum or even has him facing you as opposed to facing the sideline in running motion.

[Old School SD Fan]

Re: Anyone having trouble running the HB Slip Screen?

yup...you basically have to sprint backward to get it to work. Pretty much a worthless play vs. a user. Can still get it to work every so often vs cpu

I have gotten to the point I can drop back without sprinting and get it off, but yes you have to drop back unrealistically far to give the play time to set up.

I also have found you have to lead the pass to the sideline or too often the receiver will come back toward the ball, too far inside, and abandon his blockers.

But if the psychic CPU puts a defender on the screen, good luck! The play is pretty much a loser then.

[jello1717]

Re: Anyone having trouble running the HB Slip Screen?

I have pretty good success and I actually don't allow myself to call it too many times because, while I wouldn't call it a money play, the chances for huge gains seems to be too high.

I only play out of the SG so if you're talking about undercenter, then you can ignore this post. The main thing (which I'm guessing everyone knows) is to not run this against man as the HB will have a guy in his hip pocket. I drop back some while waiting for the play to develop, but not too far and I don't sprint back. This might be because I'm already in the SG. If the defense has some blitzing guys on the play side, you might have to roll to that side while dropping back so throw it around them instead of over them.

When doing the above, I can often have a convoy of about 4 blockers that usually only have 2 guys to block.

Also, if you're not able to get the slip screen to work, try some of the non-slip HB screens. There's a few of them and the new "double screen" plays (WR mid screen on 1 side and HB screen to the other side) have normal HB screens instead of slip screens. You usually need to get rid of the ball in a hurry on those though.

[WipeOut464]

Re: Anyone having trouble running the HB Slip Screen?

Yeah it blows. I've completely stopped using it unless out of the Shotgun. I can't imagine why EA put it in, but that little hitch the RB does before setting for the pass kills the play. It's annoying enough that the RB does it, but the fact that it's directly behind the crashing DE simply destroys the play. Seems like the DTs get in a little quicker too. The PA HB screen plays are insta-sacks too (with the exception of one out of one of the I formations (Tight maybe?)).

I can't believe EA keeps finding a way to screw up something that worked perfectly well in previous years. Last year it was PA passing (still not perfect, but better at least), this year is HB Slip Screens, next year maybe it'll be the Center-QB exchange.

[Oil Nation]

Re: Anyone having trouble running the HB Slip Screen?

I've just sprinted backwards as a work around until the screen develops, its kind of a crappy work around but it does the trick. Just don't get sacked while backpedalling or its a huge loss.

[jello1717]

Re: Anyone having trouble running the HB Slip Screen?

Just out of curiosity, are all of you having issue with under center slip screens or is this with SG slip screens too?

[gamemaster-2005]

Re: Anyone having trouble running the HB Slip Screen?

I've noticed the blocking linemen and the HB tend to pause for a second or two before running to the flats. The only solution seems to be dropping back to an unrealistic point to complete it.

Damn why didn't I think of that name for a user name

[EccentricMeat]

Re: Anyone having trouble running the HB Slip Screen?

One thing that had been helpful to me in years past (haven't tried it yet this year, though) is to send the RB on a drag (as long as he starts the play on the opposite side of the field that the screen is going to).

This way the drag route replaces the screen route, and the RB still heads in the direction that the linemen are blocking.

Now, the only other thing I needed to do was to shift the blocking in the direction of the screen. So if the screen is going right, shift the blocking right. Left, shift the blocking left.

This way there isn't that little delay before the screen, and you can get the ball to the RB quickly, so that the DE/OLB don't have time to blow up the play and cover the RB.

Give it a try and tell me how it works.

[johhnywave]

Re: Anyone having trouble running the HB Slip Screen?

Yes, but the mid-WR screen is absolutely money. Assuming the pass is completed, usually 5-8 yards. Sometimes you break one off if you WRs block.

[PowerofRed25]

Re: Anyone having trouble running the HB Slip Screen?

Yes, but the mid-WR screen is absolutely money. Assuming the pass is completed, usually 5-8 yards. Sometimes you break one off if you WRs block.

The Mid Screen is filthy, even better as part of the Double Screen in Pistol Full House. That play is all sorts of money.

I don't have trouble running slip screens, if you time them right and slowly retreat, it usually works. The problem comes when your HB just runs into either an offensive lineman or the defensive end and just gets stuck to him like he is velcro.

That is when you either risk a throw and a TFL or get sacked because he just cannot get off the guy.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Re: Anyone having trouble running the HB Slip Screen?

Yeah it blows. I've completely stopped using it unless out of the Shotgun. I can't imagine why EA put it in, but that little hitch the RB does before setting for the pass kills the play. It's annoying enough that the RB does it, but the fact that it's directly behind the crashing DE simply destroys the play.

I gathered that was supposed to be the halfback faking a block before heading into the flat, but since he never actually contacts anyone there, he just stops like an idiot.

[Az2k12]

Re: Anyone having trouble running the HB Slip Screen?

Immediately after snapping the ball, left stick down and just back pedal the defenders and chuck it at the last second....I get huge touchdown plays a lot of times I don't see how you guys are having so many issues haha

And if for some reason he's not open click RB and throw it away?? It's an easy play to complete lol