yeah, the patch just KILLED varsity level. i mean, totally unplayable. but, the pre-patch sliders are good, BUT you've got a really DUMB AI secondary when the QB breaks the LOS. Plus, I don't know what impact is made with the patch for dynasty mode... So you will probably find, if you can do without playing a current set of rosters, that your alumni rosters and sliders will fill the void for college football. plus, i'm gonna bust out nfl 2k5 for my football fix (pro level) playing with the classic rosters done by the guys in the other thread here. but see what you think and let us know...