Small Time Trades in Association

[BasedTaylor]

Ok, so I know there's a lot of threads about good ideas for big time trades in Association Mode BUT what about all those minor trades that get done year in and year out? It's really hard to account for those and sometimes you need a better perspective for certain teams to get deals done.

So I was hoping maybe we could get a lot of ideas going in here on those kind of trades that might not get as much pub but they're needed to keep our associations going when we're controlling all 30 teams.

[Riggins]

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You could always do something with the Spurs. Richard Jefferson's contract and a young player (Blair or Anderson) for a big guy. Maybe to Golden State for Biedrins? Even though he's not really all that good this year.

[zay916]

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@OP, I was thinking the exact same thing. As a resident of Sacramento, I can tell you that the Kings have been shopping Fransisco Garcia for a while. Send him to a defensive team in need of some scoring. Maybe Boston or Detroit.

[BasedTaylor]

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@OP, I was thinking the exact same thing. As a resident of Sacramento, I can tell you that the Kings have been shopping Fransisco Garcia for a while. Send him to a defensive team in need of some scoring. Maybe Boston or Detroit.

Yeah, that's what I was hoping for. Insight from fans of specific teams etc. Good stuff.

[Bobby Baseball]

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I like to trade Toney Douglas for Yi Jianlian. The Knicks are weak up front off the bench, relying on Renaldo Balkman and Jared Jeffries, so Yi is a good fit for them. The Mavericks have Jason Kidd and Delonte West so I figure they could use a good young point guard to bring some energy off the bench.

[fluent2332]

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I like to trade Toney Douglas for Yi Jianlian. The Knicks are weak up front off the bench, relying on Renaldo Balkman and Jared Jeffries, so Yi is a good fit for them. The Mavericks have Jason Kidd and Delonte West so I figure they could use a good young point guard to bring some energy off the bench.

Not bad. Makes sense for both teams. This is assuming Yi can actually play a little.

Here's a trade I contemplated in my Warriors association. It's a small trade but it makes sense for both teams. I didn't pull the trigger on it though, but it's still tempting.

Warriors get:
SF John Salmons
PF/C Chuck Hayes

Kings get:
SF Dorrell Wright
C Andris Biedrins

They swap bad contracts in Salmons and Biedrins, and swap starting SFs. Kings get a little younger and get a legit back-up for Cousins, and Warriors get a dynamic scorer and a banger down low who will eat up rebounds and play defense, both which they desperately need. Both teams get better I reckon.

[Cossolotto32]

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Warriors get:
SF John Salmons
PF/C Chuck Hayes

Kings get:
SF Dorrell Wright
C Andris Biedrins

They swap bad contracts in Salmons and Biedrins, and swap starting SFs. Kings get a little younger and get a legit back-up for Cousins, and Warriors get a dynamic scorer and a banger down low who will eat up rebounds and play defense, both which they desperately need. Both teams get better I reckon.

I would decline that trade in a heartbeat honestly. I'm a warriors fan as well, have been for years, and I don't like that trade. Dorell is a lights out shooter and pretty valuable to the team, and we could get more for him. And Chuck Hayes isn't exactly a great big man, which is the main thing the warriors will trade for.

[gfunkadelphia]

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Love this thread as its typically the small deals or pick ups that win the title.
The kings-warriors trade is pretty fair, but I agree I think best player in trade in wright and not so sure I'd give him up.
Sixers could use scoring and I like F.Garcia but they are stacked at the 2-3 positions. Sixers in need of big men with injuries to hawes and Vuc

[fluent2332]

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I would decline that trade in a heartbeat honestly. I'm a warriors fan as well, have been for years, and I don't like that trade. Dorell is a lights out shooter and pretty valuable to the team, and we could get more for him. And Chuck Hayes isn't exactly a great big man, which is the main thing the warriors will trade for.

Chuck Hayes is an upgrade over Biedrins though, who seems to have lost his fire and confidence, and pretty much lost his game. Chuck Hayes would give the Warriors post defense and rebounding, 2 things they desperately need. I do hope Biedrins turns it around though.

Salmons offensively has more tricks than Dorell, and a better mid range game, but Dorell is still young and can get better. He's struggling this year though, but I guess lots of players are so I shouldn't read too much into that. He's played better in the last 10 games then how he started the season, so maybe things will work out for him.

But in the end, I didn't make the trade myself because I like Dorell's game, now that I learned to use him in the game. I would still like to upgrade the center position somehow, but in the meantime Biedrins/Brown is good enough I suppose.

[Suntan Superman]

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I normally always make trades for Eric Maynor and Robin Lopez, they are my two favorite guys to bring off the bench. You can sign them to cheap long-term extensions, and neither one ever wants to be more than a role player.

[b2th3m1th]

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Not bad. Makes sense for both teams. This is assuming Yi can actually play a little.

Here's a trade I contemplated in my Warriors association. It's a small trade but it makes sense for both teams. I didn't pull the trigger on it though, but it's still tempting.

Warriors get:
SF John Salmons
PF/C Chuck Hayes

Kings get:
SF Dorrell Wright
C Andris Biedrins

They swap bad contracts in Salmons and Biedrins, and swap starting SFs. Kings get a little younger and get a legit back-up for Cousins, and Warriors get a dynamic scorer and a banger down low who will eat up rebounds and play defense, both which they desperately need. Both teams get better I reckon.

Why would GSW make that trade? Salmons would be terrible for that team. While Biedrins isnt great or decent by any means he's better than Chuck Hayes. So GSW would get older and worse, no way they do that

[fluent2332]

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Biedrins is NOT better than Chuck Hayes. Biedrins is a 61, Chuck Hayes is a 69. Chuck Hayes is a rebounding and post defense beast. Biedrins doesn't do much of anything any more except take up space. Chuck Hayes with playing time could legitimately average close to a double double. Biedrins will give you about 6 and 6 in his minutes.

Salmons is on the down swing it appears, but he's still a great 3 point shooter and can score with the ball in his hand with his mid range game. He would be a great fit along side Curry and Ellis. That would give the Warriors 3 players who can flat out score the ball. Salmons could also work with the 2nd unit and be the one starter out there with the 2nd unit who passes the rock around, etc, and keeps the 2nd unit glued together. And Dorell Wright has been struggling this year with his shot and while he's gotten better the last 10 games, his numbers are still well down from last year. Also, Biedrins has a bad contract (3 years at $9m per year), and Salmons has nearly an identical contract, so it would be realistic to swap both bad contracts.

And if Salmons returns to his Chicago form, then he's an upgrade at SF over Wright. In this game Salmons can average 18-5-5 and shoot at a high percentage. Wright struggles with his mid range game and will put up about 15-5-3 at his best. Salmons is also rated higher than Wright in 3pt and midrange shooting. Hayes is a definite upgrade at Center over Biedrins, simply for his rebounding and post defense. His rebounding would spark the GS fast break time and time again. Biedrins used to do that, but not anymore.

Trust me, I went back and forth on this trade quite a bit and it would make sense for both teams.

[b2th3m1th]

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Biedrins is NOT better than Chuck Hayes. Biedrins is a 61, Chuck Hayes is a 69. Chuck Hayes is a rebounding and post defense beast. Biedrins doesn't do much of anything any more except take up space. Chuck Hayes with playing time could legitimately average close to a double double. Biedrins will give you about 6 and 6 in his minutes.

Salmons is on the down swing it appears, but he's still a great 3 point shooter and can score with the ball in his hand with his mid range game. He would be a great fit along side Curry and Ellis. That would give the Warriors 3 players who can flat out score the ball. Salmons could also work with the 2nd unit and be the one starter out there with the 2nd unit who passes the rock around, etc, and keeps the 2nd unit glued together. And Dorell Wright has been struggling this year with his shot and while he's gotten better the last 10 games, his numbers are still well down from last year. Also, Biedrins has a bad contract (3 years at $9m per year), and Salmons has nearly an identical contract, so it would be realistic to swap both bad contracts.

And if Salmons returns to his Chicago form, then he's an upgrade at SF over Wright. In this game Salmons can average 18-5-5 and shoot at a high percentage. Wright struggles with his mid range game and will put up about 15-5-3 at his best. Salmons is also rated higher than Wright in 3pt and midrange shooting. Hayes is a definite upgrade at Center over Biedrins, simply for his rebounding and post defense. His rebounding would spark the GS fast break time and time again. Biedrins used to do that, but not anymore.

Trust me, I went back and forth on this trade quite a bit and it would make sense for both teams.

IRL Biedrins is better than chuck hayes. Salmons is terrible now and is a black hole on offense. GSW would never do that trade.

[Slyone14]

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Biedrins is NOT better than Chuck Hayes. Biedrins is a 61, Chuck Hayes is a 69. Chuck Hayes is a rebounding and post defense beast. Biedrins doesn't do much of anything any more except take up space. Chuck Hayes with playing time could legitimately average close to a double double. Biedrins will give you about 6 and 6 in his minutes.

Salmons is on the down swing it appears, but he's still a great 3 point shooter and can score with the ball in his hand with his mid range game. He would be a great fit along side Curry and Ellis. That would give the Warriors 3 players who can flat out score the ball. Salmons could also work with the 2nd unit and be the one starter out there with the 2nd unit who passes the rock around, etc, and keeps the 2nd unit glued together. And Dorell Wright has been
struggling this year with his shot and while he's gotten better the last 10 games, his numbers are still well down from last year. Also, Biedrins has a bad contract (3 years at $9m per year), and Salmons has nearly an identical contract, so it would be realistic to swap both bad contracts.

And if Salmons returns to his Chicago form, then he's an upgrade at SF over
Wright. In this game Salmons can average 18-5-5 and shoot at a high percentage. Wright struggles with his mid range game and will put up about 15-5-3 at his best. Salmons is also rated higher than Wright in 3pt and midrange shooting. Hayes is a definite upgrade at Center over Biedrins, simply for his rebounding and post defense. His rebounding would spark the GS fast
break time and time again. Biedrins used to do that, but not anymore.

Trust me, I went back and forth on this trade quite a bit and it would make sense for both teams.

I agree 100 percent with everything u said. I could not have said it better myself. Chuck hayes is a beast compared to Biedrins. Salmons in chicago was good. I also loved playing as salmons and could drain threes and mid range shots. On my cats chise i got him and be got me 17 ppg.

[BasedTaylor]

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Agree to disagree on that one fellas. Lets hear some more good ideas on trades.