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Quote: Originally Posted by CRMosier_LM

I see exactly what both sides are saying. While I am not a free-style player I REFUSE to call myself Sim basically just because Sim to me is not longer simulating the game, to me Sim is removing elements from the game that make it football because we don't agree with it or want to adapt to it. I play "realistic football" as much as humanly possible. @Roadman I know exactly where you are coming from with the Shields comment. But would the Packers drop him back to prevent something they are having problems with?!? They MOST CERTAINLY would... Or else they would lose due to refusing to adjust. @whoever That IS NFL Football, my Gameplan vs your Gameplan and who can make the correct adjustments and execute. That my friends is what football is at its basics. It happens every play, every day, every game in the NFL. Simply calling the play and expecting it to work is hogwash and NO NFL team does that or realistically expects that. But unfortunately that is what happens too often with the "Sim" community. Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk 2

I can't agree with this at all, the reason being is that we in the Sim communities try to eliminate the temptation of doing things we know fu well are broken but have very successful results kn madden regardless of the coverage.

If it wasn't for the blatant abuse of curl routes being used to achieve a first down and you are showing a pattern of relying on this most of the game, then it becomes and issue. Curl routes are not easily defendable, as there are several Sim leagues and communities who have started to ban this route.

Remember the 4 curls people were running in madden 09 out of snugs? It still happens to this day.

But its hard taking someone's word when they don't even bother indulging in the pub room games to begin with. I mean at this point Cm and whoever else doesn't play online, what what would it hurt to get online for a few hours in the play now and see for yourself?

If you still feel the same afterwards then heh, not much for me to say, but I feel a lot of people on this "its all moot" mentality don't even bother seeing for themselves. You act like we pulling stuff up out of thin air and that's not the case.

But tell me how would you feel if I just told you to just stop playing madden altogether if you're gonna come back at me with "then don't play online join a Sim group".